Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think it has to do with longevity. Just like when it comes to determining FQB's. How many consecutive years has Cousins put up those types of numbers? Does he have the potential? Yes. Has he lived up to that potential?

7 years

He certainly fits the criteria for elite passer to me. I think the only reason he doesn't get the recognition is because his teams don't typically win the division, conference and do not consistently make the playoffs and when they do they are one and done.

Cousins is a good QB, but definitely not elite. He doesn't have the arm the elite guys have, or the quick processing ability / accuracy like Brady and Peyton had.

That would make his stats even more impressive then. Because his stats are right up there with the rest of those guys but lacks the elite physical traits and lacks the elite mental traits. Wow!

Would he have taken us further than Jimmy? He was obviously able to stay healthier….

Cousins has also been able to put up better stats over the past several years bc that defense has been bad. He's just getting more opportunities to throw, and to his credit, he's been playing very well.

I still wouldn't put him in that elite category. Obviously better than Jimmy though. That's never been an actual debate anywhere else in the world of football, except for the few Jimmy homers on here.

This past season, Cousins only threw for the 3rd most highest passing attempts of his career. So I am not sure where you're getting at with better stats because the Vikings defense has been bad. He had over 600 attempts in 2018 and 2016. He also has the longest active streak of 25+ TD's per season with 7. The guy does belong in the conversation and possibly without a doubt if he were playing for Shanahan, Peyton or Arians.

I think Cousins would definitely do better than what he has shown, unfortunately we don't know what that is because he hasn't been our qb.

Coaching and scheme has a lot to do with how successful a player can become. While it doesn't make it fact, we can still speculate and discuss such things. Especially in April when there really isn't much else to discuss.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What is this b******t doing in the Lance thread? This is Jimmy thread stuff.

And my God, Cousins on the same level as Brady as an elite QB?

Poor baby. I didn't mean to get your pink panties in a bunch. Again, its April. What else is there to discuss about Trey that hasn't been repeated over and over and over again?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What is this b******t doing in the Lance thread? This is Jimmy thread stuff.

And my God, Cousins on the same level as Brady as an elite QB?

You have brought players like Sam Darnold and Stafford up out of nowhere plenty of times in the Jimmy thread. Others are allowed to do the same until they ban us from comparing QBs.

forget all the deebo drama and NFL reporting BS, there is good chance once the Trey Era begins, a whole new stability that have never been seen, since the 80s, for the 49ers franchise begins again...

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think it has to do with longevity. Just like when it comes to determining FQB's. How many consecutive years has Cousins put up those types of numbers? Does he have the potential? Yes. Has he lived up to that potential?

7 years

He certainly fits the criteria for elite passer to me. I think the only reason he doesn't get the recognition is because his teams don't typically win the division, conference and do not consistently make the playoffs and when they do they are one and done.

Cousins is a good QB, but definitely not elite. He doesn't have the arm the elite guys have, or the quick processing ability / accuracy like Brady and Peyton had.

That would make his stats even more impressive then. Because his stats are right up there with the rest of those guys but lacks the elite physical traits and lacks the elite mental traits. Wow!

Would he have taken us further than Jimmy? He was obviously able to stay healthier….

Cousins has also been able to put up better stats over the past several years bc that defense has been bad. He's just getting more opportunities to throw, and to his credit, he's been playing very well.

I still wouldn't put him in that elite category. Obviously better than Jimmy though. That's never been an actual debate anywhere else in the world of football, except for the few Jimmy homers on here.

This past season, Cousins only threw for the 3rd most highest passing attempts of his career. So I am not sure where you're getting at with better stats because the Vikings defense has been bad. He had over 600 attempts in 2018 and 2016. He also has the longest active streak of 25+ TD's per season with 7. The guy does belong in the conversation and possibly without a doubt if he were playing for Shanahan, Peyton or Arians.

Ok, I'll give you that, didn't really look that up. Just figured it was pretty high up there since their defense was bad this year.

Still...Do you really consider him in the same category as Brady, Rodgers, Pat, Allen...At least when you say elite that's what it sounds like, could be wrong though. So personally and I think most feel this way to in the football world, he's not on those guys level.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think it has to do with longevity. Just like when it comes to determining FQB's. How many consecutive years has Cousins put up those types of numbers? Does he have the potential? Yes. Has he lived up to that potential?

7 years

He certainly fits the criteria for elite passer to me. I think the only reason he doesn't get the recognition is because his teams don't typically win the division, conference and do not consistently make the playoffs and when they do they are one and done.

Cousins is a good QB, but definitely not elite. He doesn't have the arm the elite guys have, or the quick processing ability / accuracy like Brady and Peyton had.

That would make his stats even more impressive then. Because his stats are right up there with the rest of those guys but lacks the elite physical traits and lacks the elite mental traits. Wow!

Would he have taken us further than Jimmy? He was obviously able to stay healthier….

Cousins has also been able to put up better stats over the past several years bc that defense has been bad. He's just getting more opportunities to throw, and to his credit, he's been playing very well.

I still wouldn't put him in that elite category. Obviously better than Jimmy though. That's never been an actual debate anywhere else in the world of football, except for the few Jimmy homers on here.

This past season, Cousins only threw for the 3rd most highest passing attempts of his career. So I am not sure where you're getting at with better stats because the Vikings defense has been bad. He had over 600 attempts in 2018 and 2016. He also has the longest active streak of 25+ TD's per season with 7. The guy does belong in the conversation and possibly without a doubt if he were playing for Shanahan, Peyton or Arians.

Ok, I'll give you that, didn't really look that up. Just figured it was pretty high up there since their defense was bad this year.

Still...Do you really consider him in the same category as Brady, Rodgers, Pat, Allen...At least when you say elite that's what it sounds like, could be wrong though. So personally and I think most feel this way to in the football world, he's not on those guys level.

First of all, I don't think Allen has quite reached the level of Brady, Manning, Brees and Rodgers. Patrick Mahomes is definitely in that conversation but longevity is one of my criteria for being elite or a FQB. Will Mahomes reach that level. It is trending in that direction.

Second, I would not put Cousins on the same level as the top 4 of the modern era. I would put him in the same category as Allen though. Imo, they are just a tier lower. Not average by any means. I do believe that Cousins would be in the conversation along with Mahomes, if he had better coaching. Obviously this is all speculation but I believe we are 7× superbowl champs under Shanahan if he would have gotten his way and got Cousins instead of Jimmy.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think it has to do with longevity. Just like when it comes to determining FQB's. How many consecutive years has Cousins put up those types of numbers? Does he have the potential? Yes. Has he lived up to that potential?

7 years

He certainly fits the criteria for elite passer to me. I think the only reason he doesn't get the recognition is because his teams don't typically win the division, conference and do not consistently make the playoffs and when they do they are one and done.

Cousins is a good QB, but definitely not elite. He doesn't have the arm the elite guys have, or the quick processing ability / accuracy like Brady and Peyton had.

That would make his stats even more impressive then. Because his stats are right up there with the rest of those guys but lacks the elite physical traits and lacks the elite mental traits. Wow!

Would he have taken us further than Jimmy? He was obviously able to stay healthier….

Cousins has also been able to put up better stats over the past several years bc that defense has been bad. He's just getting more opportunities to throw, and to his credit, he's been playing very well.

I still wouldn't put him in that elite category. Obviously better than Jimmy though. That's never been an actual debate anywhere else in the world of football, except for the few Jimmy homers on here.

This past season, Cousins only threw for the 3rd most highest passing attempts of his career. So I am not sure where you're getting at with better stats because the Vikings defense has been bad. He had over 600 attempts in 2018 and 2016. He also has the longest active streak of 25+ TD's per season with 7. The guy does belong in the conversation and possibly without a doubt if he were playing for Shanahan, Peyton or Arians.

Ok, I'll give you that, didn't really look that up. Just figured it was pretty high up there since their defense was bad this year.

Still...Do you really consider him in the same category as Brady, Rodgers, Pat, Allen...At least when you say elite that's what it sounds like, could be wrong though. So personally and I think most feel this way to in the football world, he's not on those guys level.

Lol wrong again JBF...

All in for Week 1

https://www.startribune.com/a-year-after-being-drafted-qb-trey-lance-is-where-he-wants-to-be/600166790/

Christian Watson was on GMFB today talking…Sounds like a good kid all about ball. He was pretty laid back. They asked about Lance and get got a little more serious. They said is he gonna be good and he stopped them and said he's gonna be great. Said he's the first one in, last one out and a leader. He set the standard for them.

Great stuff to hear….while I don't think Watson is as good as a lot of people believe. I wouldn't hate having him here.

Hopefully Trey balls out this season and beyond (with or without deebo) and follow what Brady and other talented but lesser paid proven QBs in this league by not playing simply for greed reasons, when his rookie contract comes closer to the end, unlike Mr choke Rodgers, Mahomes and Watson or even Carr and Prescott (Cousins and Wilson getting paid the same per year is beyond laughable)..

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

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That's great! I'm glad I watch football for fantasy purposes.

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Lance, Mitchell, Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings and Kittle, this offense Is gonna be so exciting to watch this year. Now let's fix the O-Line and dominate the opposition.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Lance, Mitchell, Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings and Kittle, this offense Is gonna be so exciting to watch this year. Now let's fix the O-Line and dominate the opposition.

yes,, we need a couple of good big ten o line guys..... i also think it is really important to find a good running back to compliment mitchell, and a second good tight end. i hope kittle actually remains healthy and we can work him back into the passing game. whatever we get from the new wide outs is just gravy. i do like the guy we got for special teams from the steelers as long as he does not fumble