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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
The rest of the NFC better pray Trey doesn't pan out because if he does it's all over for them. The QB position is the only missing piece of this team.

Shanalynch better pray Trey pans out because if he doesn't it's all over for them.

Highly doubtful

Agreed. As long as they're competitive, they've got at least another 3 years. Lynch may leave but it'll most likely be on his own terms.

Ya, money being a thing too, can't fire them that early, Jed will owe them a s**t load.

But overall, I'm very happy with KS, Lynch got some room for improvement. But KS has done such a damn good job here, especially while not having a solid QB.

it's so hard to win in the NFL without that, at least not consistently and he's done a good job overall and I really do believe he will only get better. Hopefully Lynch can also get on Kyle's level as a GM. He definitely needs to be more aggressive, but he's also been learning on the job. Overall, I am pleased with this FO (less Paraag though) overall I would give them an 8/8.5 out of 10 so far.

That would be exactly where I have them too. Very very close...right there.

I know we've had some concerns with Kyle too but they do seem to learn and grow and we've got a lot of evidence on their style and tendencies.

I'm excited for the new era and to watch how that marriage of Kyle and Trey grow together over time.

I know you lol, but I understand why you could make an argument for less overall score. It's tough to see some of these other teams pull off great mid season trades or, offseason trades / FA. I want a little bit more aggressiveness there, even if it ends up biting us in the ass.

But Kyle, this season for me as been his absolute best. You have a long list of coaches who have caught lightning in a bottle for a season or two, then they hit some major bumps in the next season or two and they never return to their early success.

This team had all the right to give up, 3-5 start, some bad injuries again, it was very easy for them to fold. And even after we started winning some games, we still had a couple stinkers afterwards. No way did I think we could be a contender, until around week 13/14.

Tl;Dr: Kyles a very good coach

He really is. Absolutely nothing to debate here.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by bigmur49:
So assuming Jimmy is not here next year, is Sudfeld actually the QB2?

cuz that is terrible if Lance misses any time.

the chiefs packers etc. have the same problem

if your star QB goes down long term that is likely season ending...PHI and Foles are the exception

if your star qb only misses a few games then you want a punchers chance...with our D and running game we have that

KC had Chad Henne, a QB with starting experience. Sudfeld hasn't even taken any meaningful snaps. This is one decision that I disagree with Shanahan about.

Not to mention he's a totally different style of QB to Trey. Once again, Kyle would need to stylistically change things up greatly if Trey goes down.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by bigmur49:
So assuming Jimmy is not here next year, is Sudfeld actually the QB2?

cuz that is terrible if Lance misses any time.

the chiefs packers etc. have the same problem

if your star QB goes down long term that is likely season ending...PHI and Foles are the exception

if your star qb only misses a few games then you want a punchers chance...with our D and running game we have that

KC had Chad Henne, a QB with starting experience. Sudfeld hasn't even taken any meaningful snaps. This is one decision that I disagree with Shanahan about.

Not to mention he's a totally different style of QB to Trey. Once again, Kyle would need to stylistically change things up greatly if Trey goes down.

I mean qbs like trey are pretty rare so I assume that it wouldn't be that easy to find a backup that can replicate his skill set. Who would you think should be the back up now then?
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by bigmur49:
So assuming Jimmy is not here next year, is Sudfeld actually the QB2?

cuz that is terrible if Lance misses any time.

the chiefs packers etc. have the same problem

if your star QB goes down long term that is likely season ending...PHI and Foles are the exception

if your star qb only misses a few games then you want a punchers chance...with our D and running game we have that

KC had Chad Henne, a QB with starting experience. Sudfeld hasn't even taken any meaningful snaps. This is one decision that I disagree with Shanahan about.

Not to mention he's a totally different style of QB to Trey. Once again, Kyle would need to stylistically change things up greatly if Trey goes down.

I mean qbs like trey are pretty rare so I assume that it wouldn't be that easy to find a backup that can replicate his skill set. Who would you think should be the back up now then?

I don't see it that way. While Trey is athletic and can escape the pocket, he is a pass first QB. Trey will get his rushing package, of course. However, I don't see the offense undergoing any drastic changes.
Originally posted by bigmur49:
So assuming Jimmy is not here next year, is Sudfeld actually the QB2?

cuz that is terrible if Lance misses any time.

Sudfeld has starter potential. I mean not for us but down the road for another squad.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by bigmur49:
So assuming Jimmy is not here next year, is Sudfeld actually the QB2?

cuz that is terrible if Lance misses any time.

the chiefs packers etc. have the same problem

if your star QB goes down long term that is likely season ending...PHI and Foles are the exception

if your star qb only misses a few games then you want a punchers chance...with our D and running game we have that

KC had Chad Henne, a QB with starting experience. Sudfeld hasn't even taken any meaningful snaps. This is one decision that I disagree with Shanahan about.

Not to mention he's a totally different style of QB to Trey. Once again, Kyle would need to stylistically change things up greatly if Trey goes down.

I mean qbs like trey are pretty rare so I assume that it wouldn't be that easy to find a backup that can replicate his skill set. Who would you think should be the back up now then?

I don't see it that way. While Trey is athletic and can escape the pocket, he is a pass first QB. Trey will get his rushing package, of course. However, I don't see the offense undergoing any drastic changes.

Trey is not a pass first qb. He may have those intentions but he won games with his legs in college, not his arm
Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by bigmur49:
So assuming Jimmy is not here next year, is Sudfeld actually the QB2?

cuz that is terrible if Lance misses any time.

the chiefs packers etc. have the same problem

if your star QB goes down long term that is likely season ending...PHI and Foles are the exception

if your star qb only misses a few games then you want a punchers chance...with our D and running game we have that

KC had Chad Henne, a QB with starting experience. Sudfeld hasn't even taken any meaningful snaps. This is one decision that I disagree with Shanahan about.

Not to mention he's a totally different style of QB to Trey. Once again, Kyle would need to stylistically change things up greatly if Trey goes down.

I mean qbs like trey are pretty rare so I assume that it wouldn't be that easy to find a backup that can replicate his skill set. Who would you think should be the back up now then?

I don't see it that way. While Trey is athletic and can escape the pocket, he is a pass first QB. Trey will get his rushing package, of course. However, I don't see the offense undergoing any drastic changes.

Trey is not a pass first qb. He may have those intentions but he won games with his legs in college, not his arm

In the NFL Trey is a pass first QB who can make or extend plays with his legs.
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
In the NFL Trey is a pass first QB who can make or extend plays with his legs.

Yup he's our version of Mahomes / Josh Allen. How do you defend him? Go back to KC vs BUF in playoffs. If a guy has a cannon can put it on guys anywhere on the field and can run if everything is covered up then say goodnight you won't be able to defend that.
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by bigmur49:
So assuming Jimmy is not here next year, is Sudfeld actually the QB2?

cuz that is terrible if Lance misses any time.

the chiefs packers etc. have the same problem

if your star QB goes down long term that is likely season ending...PHI and Foles are the exception

if your star qb only misses a few games then you want a punchers chance...with our D and running game we have that

KC had Chad Henne, a QB with starting experience. Sudfeld hasn't even taken any meaningful snaps. This is one decision that I disagree with Shanahan about.

Not to mention he's a totally different style of QB to Trey. Once again, Kyle would need to stylistically change things up greatly if Trey goes down.

I mean qbs like trey are pretty rare so I assume that it wouldn't be that easy to find a backup that can replicate his skill set. Who would you think should be the back up now then?

I don't see it that way. While Trey is athletic and can escape the pocket, he is a pass first QB. Trey will get his rushing package, of course. However, I don't see the offense undergoing any drastic changes.

Trey is not a pass first qb. He may have those intentions but he won games with his legs in college, not his arm

In the NFL Trey is a pass first QB who can make or extend plays with his legs.

Yea. Idk what games he watching last season . Trey kept his eyes down field even when escaping the pocket. Showed on atleast a few occassions that he would rather throw it than run it. When I made that post, I wasn't referring to any designed runs. He runs for yards (on non designed run plays) only when there isn't anyone open.
Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by bigmur49:
So assuming Jimmy is not here next year, is Sudfeld actually the QB2?

cuz that is terrible if Lance misses any time.

the chiefs packers etc. have the same problem

if your star QB goes down long term that is likely season ending...PHI and Foles are the exception

if your star qb only misses a few games then you want a punchers chance...with our D and running game we have that

KC had Chad Henne, a QB with starting experience. Sudfeld hasn't even taken any meaningful snaps. This is one decision that I disagree with Shanahan about.

Not to mention he's a totally different style of QB to Trey. Once again, Kyle would need to stylistically change things up greatly if Trey goes down.

I mean qbs like trey are pretty rare so I assume that it wouldn't be that easy to find a backup that can replicate his skill set. Who would you think should be the back up now then?

I don't see it that way. While Trey is athletic and can escape the pocket, he is a pass first QB. Trey will get his rushing package, of course. However, I don't see the offense undergoing any drastic changes.

Trey is not a pass first qb. He may have those intentions but he won games with his legs in college, not his arm

I wasn't referring to designed run plays, haus. Anyway, his 28 passing tds and 0 ints in 2019 would say otherwise. Are you only sticking around long enough to see if Trey fails in the hopes of rubbbing it in 49er fans faces?
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Apr 27, 2022 at 9:52 AM ]
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I wasn't referring to designed run plays, haus. Anyway, his 28 tds and 0 ints in 2019 would say otherwise. Are you only sticking around long enough to see if Trey fails in the hopes of rubbbing it in 49er fans faces?

Is that question rhetorical?
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I wasn't referring to designed run plays, haus. Anyway, his 28 tds and 0 ints in 2019 would say otherwise. Are you only sticking around long enough to see if Trey fails in the hopes of rubbbing it in 49er fans faces?

Is that question rhetorical?

Yes
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
In the NFL Trey is a pass first QB who can make or extend plays with his legs.

Yup he's our version of Mahomes / Josh Allen. How do you defend him? Go back to KC vs BUF in playoffs. If a guy has a cannon can put it on guys anywhere on the field and can run if everything is covered up then say goodnight you won't be able to defend that.

Simply keep him in the pocket
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I wasn't referring to designed run plays, haus. Anyway, his 28 tds and 0 ints in 2019 would say otherwise. Are you only sticking around long enough to see if Trey fails in the hopes of rubbbing it in 49er fans faces?

Is that question rhetorical?

Yes

Yes and no. Was hoping for an off-hand chance he would slip up and admit to his true intentions.
Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
In the NFL Trey is a pass first QB who can make or extend plays with his legs.

Yup he's our version of Mahomes / Josh Allen. How do you defend him? Go back to KC vs BUF in playoffs. If a guy has a cannon can put it on guys anywhere on the field and can run if everything is covered up then say goodnight you won't be able to defend that.

Simply keep him in the pocket

Yup and he can buy time in the pocket as well, thanks to his skill set. Trying staying with Kittle or BA for 5-7 seconds. It cannot be done even by the most elite defenders, not without holding.
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