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Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
A whole paragraph and footnotes of the 2 games he played yet the only thing you guys obsess over is a small mention of Montana not being a believer in Lance. Man it doesn't take much to get you guys riled up. If someone doesn't think a QB you like will be very good. You can brush it off and move on, nothing you say or do will change anyones opinions until the season comes back again.

I agree nothing will change what everyone thinks, especially in this setting. Having a hardcore stance either way is dumb.
Originally posted by 49ers81:
For the poster who inquired, I actually have called out some of the posts who were hyper critical of Lance. Just like it is too early to be falling all ourselves telling everybody how great he is going to be it is too early to say he was the worst pick in team history or that he is going to be a bust which are both equally ludicrous takes. It's just that there seem to be fewer of those types around so they're easier to ignore,

I don't have the slightest idea how Lance is going to work out. I haven't seen him play enough to even have much of an opinion of him at all at this point. In fact my entire assessment consists of four things.

1) He seems like he throws a decent deep ball.

2) While he is certainly more mobile than Jimmy I don't get the impression that he is anywhere near the elite runner that some others seem to believe. But that's okay because I like my QB's to play from the pocket so any kind of escape-ability he does possess will be a nice bonus.

3) From all accounts he is a good guy, a hard worker and someone who is interested in improving his game, all pluses.

4) Through the pre-season and the 10 quarters he played during the regular season he only completed something like 57% of his passes. There could be a lot of reasons for that so there's really no reason to raise the red flags yet but it will be something to keep an eye on moving forward. I'm no expert on schemes but it seems to me that a lot of Kyle's offense is built around the QB getting the ball out of his hands and into the hands of his play makers and letting them do the work. Seems like only completing 57% of your passes would leave a lot of lost opportunities on the field. But that is a number that could easily be improved upon with more reps and more experience in the system so I'm not overly concerned about it at this point.

The bottom line is I'm looking forward to seeing him play and hope that he turns out to be everything the team thought he could be when they drafted him. I supported Jimmy when he was the starter and was completely okay with him getting the call last year. Now Lance has the opportunity to step up and earn the job. Hopefully he'll take it and run with it. I know I'll certainly be rooting for him to succeed. Go Niners!



For the record I should of just said I haven't seen you do that, instead of saying you haven't done it. There's way too many pages of threads for me to read everything so that's my fault for phrasing it that way.

My intent was to highlight this issue of hypocrisy that's all over the webzone not to call you out specifically. But I did and again that's my bad.

One of the reasons I wanted to highlight your consistent stance of not being too high or too low is because I share the same feeling. As big of a believer I am of Trey he certainly hasn't arrived yet and I don't think people should be making any absolute claims about him at this point. He may end up being a top 10 QB, or maybe the best running QB in the NFL, or he may become a much better pocket passer than people expect, or he may absolutely become a bust.

The point is I don't see a lot of posters tempering the low expectations of Lance who were also arguing that Jimmy received too much criticism throughout the season... only the high expectations are tempered.

To me I see that as an example of this tribalism BS that's been going on all year. We should all want what's best for the team and the team only. I would have loved to see Jimmy win a Super Bowl but now the focus should be on Lance getting it done.
Originally posted by Waterbear:


For the record I should of just said I haven't seen you do that, instead of saying you haven't done it. There's way too many pages of threads for me to read everything so that's my fault for phrasing it that way.

My intent was to highlight this issue of hypocrisy that's all over the webzone not to call you out specifically. But I did and again that's my bad.

One of the reasons I wanted to highlight your consistent stance of not being too high or too low is because I share the same feeling. As big of a believer I am of Trey he certainly hasn't arrived yet and I don't think people should be making any absolute claims about him at this point. He may end up being a top 10 QB, or maybe the best running QB in the NFL, or he may become a much better pocket passer than people expect, or he may absolutely become a bust.

The point is I don't see a lot of posters tempering the low expectations of Lance who were also arguing that Jimmy received too much criticism throughout the season... only the high expectations are tempered.

To me I see that as an example of this tribalism BS that's been going on all year. We should all want what's best for the team and the team only. I would have loved to see Jimmy win a Super Bowl but now the focus should be on Lance getting it done.

My opinion on it is having an extreme stance on Lance either way at this point is silly. All you can do is look at the fame work of what he is an could be and that should be exciting…you also have to look at the fact that he's super young with not a ton of reps under his belt.

It's a process and planting your flag either way right now is dumb. Just be ready for highs and lows that come with a young player…he's in a spot to have success so let's wait and see how it goes.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on May 5, 2022 at 5:09 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
My opinion on it is having an extreme stance on Lance either way at this point is silly. All you can do is look at the fame work of what he is an could be and that should be exciting…you also have to look at the fact that he's super young with not a ton of reps under his belt.

It's a process and planting your flag either way right now is dumb. Just be ready for highs and lows that come with a young player…he's in a spot to have success so let's wait and see how it goes.

I can read between the lines. You think he's a bust
Originally posted by NYniner85:
My opinion on it is having an extreme stance on Lance either way at this point is silly. All you can do is look at the fame work of what he is an could be and that should be exciting…you also have to look at the fact that he's super young with not a ton of reps under his belt.

It's a process and planting your flag either way right now is dumb. Just be ready for highs and lows that come with a young player…he's in a spot to have success so let's wait and see how it goes.

Absolutely right and couldn't agree more. All the same, I just can't help myself in flag planting.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Absolutely right and couldn't agree more. All the same, I just can't help myself in flag planting.


Who's the dude in the white shirt losing his mind.
Seems like an extremely easy thing to say when you are desperate for a take. Jimmy is still on the team which makes these reports easy to make up. How often do reporters with "sources" make claims like this hoping that they are right to gain followers? All the time. Even the top ones will make crap up.

Could the 49ers not be sold on Lance? Absolutely but I doubt this guy has sources close to Lynch or Shanahan

All the reports surrounding the 49ers this offseason has been b******t
[ Edited by Brucey72 on May 5, 2022 at 5:23 PM ]
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So now we are down to a new narrative.. the niners are not sold on trey.. and thats why they want to keep jimmy... how about the truth just be told,,,,,,, no nfl team wants jimmy.. so we are stuck with him and his 27 million dollar anchor around our necks.. and that 27 million is going to create issues for us moving forward. tearing down or trying to create some false narrative about trey. just to build up jimmy or protect lynch who was stupid for over valuing jimmy in the first place is pretty low in my opinion. but see. this is what i mean. even if the rumors are just that. b******t ..... the seeds of distractions and drama are being planted. the longer jimmy is on this team. the longer and bigger it will get, shouldersurgeryexcuses not withstanding... i am soo sick of the endless excuses with jimmy.. i really am
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
My opinion on it is having an extreme stance on Lance either way at this point is silly. All you can do is look at the fame work of what he is an could be and that should be exciting…you also have to look at the fact that he's super young with not a ton of reps under his belt.

It's a process and planting your flag either way right now is dumb. Just be ready for highs and lows that come with a young player…he's in a spot to have success so let's wait and see how it goes.

I can read between the lines. You think he's a bust

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
My opinion on it is having an extreme stance on Lance either way at this point is silly. All you can do is look at the fame work of what he is an could be and that should be exciting…you also have to look at the fact that he's super young with not a ton of reps under his belt.

It's a process and planting your flag either way right now is dumb. Just be ready for highs and lows that come with a young player…he's in a spot to have success so let's wait and see how it goes.

Absolutely right and couldn't agree more. All the same, I just can't help myself in flag planting.


HA nice
Originally posted by genus49:
Yeah i mentioned those reports on twitter...those were supposedly from "49ers sources"

1 thing we know about this regime is they do not leak anything they don't want out there. So either they're leaking it because they want to up any possible value for Garoppolo or more than likely this is simply BS or sour grapes from guys on the outs.

We lost a few coaches this offseason...including one who is likely the source assuming there is actually a source which is Scangarello

So if it is Scangarello who was the QB coach wouldn't that be a good source? Or what if he himself felt that way about Lance. Again, wouldn't that be a good source?

What am I missing here?
Originally posted by Viperboy:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Absolutely right and couldn't agree more. All the same, I just can't help myself in flag planting.


Who's the dude in the white shirt losing his mind.

Jordan Matthews
Originally posted by Viperboy:
Who's the dude in the white shirt losing his mind.

Pretty sure it was Jordan Mathews
Originally posted by NYniner85:
My opinion on it is having an extreme stance on Lance either way at this point is silly. All you can do is look at the fame work of what he is an could be and that should be exciting…you also have to look at the fact that he's super young with not a ton of reps under his belt.

It's a process and planting your flag either way right now is dumb. Just be ready for highs and lows that come with a young player…he's in a spot to have success so let's wait and see how it goes.

I don't understand how any niner fan is not super pumped for trey's future
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