Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Watch him grab the knee on the final replay. It was severe enough to keep him out the next week. This is not QBing. And yes it was hard hit lol.

The next week was a bye week and Jimmy was the starter and came back to continue being the starter.

Also, he didn't get up holding his knee. He touched his knee, got up and walked away fine.

Coach Kyle Shanahan said today that Lance has a knee sprain and might not be available for the 49ers' next game, in two weeks against the Colts. The 49ers are on their bye this week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/11/trey-lance-may-miss-time-with-knee-sprain/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-151370/

I am not saying that he didn't leave the game with a knee sprain. I am saying that we don't know exactly when it happened. Nor do we know how severe it actually was.

I think it's pretty obvious that the injury came from getting hit. But if you think running a Quarterback 16 times a game is a good idea, that's your right but I think it pretty stupid. He's a Quarterback. If you have to run him that much there is something wrong.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
This is the hit that most likely did it. Watch him slightly grab the knee on the final replay. It was severe enough to keep him out the next week. This is not QBing. And yes it was hard hit. His complete forward momentum was stopped.

Yeah the report was it was a left knee sprain…and you're saying he was holding his knee here & that was his right leg.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Watch him grab the knee on the final replay. It was severe enough to keep him out the next week. This is not QBing. And yes it was hard hit lol.

The next week was a bye week and Jimmy was the starter and came back to continue being the starter.

Also, he didn't get up holding his knee. He touched his knee, got up and walked away fine.

Coach Kyle Shanahan said today that Lance has a knee sprain and might not be available for the 49ers' next game, in two weeks against the Colts. The 49ers are on their bye this week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/11/trey-lance-may-miss-time-with-knee-sprain/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-151370/

I am not saying that he didn't leave the game with a knee sprain. I am saying that we don't know exactly when it happened. Nor do we know how severe it actually was.

Meh... I think it's pretty obvious. But if you think running a Quarterback 16 times a game is a good idea, that's your right but I think it pretty stupid. He's a Quarterback. If you have to run him that much there is something wrong.

Why are you putting words in my mouth? I didn't say that I think it is a good idea to run a QB 16 times a game. However, if you think that Trey isn't going to be part of Kyle's running game, you are in for a rude awakening.

If I had to guess about Trey's knee sprain situation. I would say that the injury was very minor and Kyle used it as an excuse to continue to sit Trey because he clearly wasn't ready to take over at that point in the season.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
I think it's pretty obvious that the injury came from getting hit. But if you think running a Quarterback 16 times a game is a good idea, that's your right but I think it pretty stupid. He's a Quarterback. If you have to run him that much there is something wrong.

Who said it was a good idea? No one. That's what happens when you toss in a rookie QB who hasn't done anything with the 1st string and hasn't even been practicing the playbook week to week as a scout QB. If he doesn't see it in his initial read, he's gonna run. Kyle couldn't implement the playbook the way you would if he was taking all the reps since OTAs. That's pretty obvious by the game plan.

No one knows when he got the knee sprain, saying it happened outside the pocket is conjecture.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
I think it's pretty obvious that the injury came from getting hit. But if you think running a Quarterback 16 times a game is a good idea, that's your right but I think it pretty stupid. He's a Quarterback. If you have to run him that much there is something wrong.

Who said it was a good idea? No one. That's what happens when you toss in a rookie QB who hasn't done anything with the 1st string and hasn't even been practicing the playbook week to week as a scout QB. If he doesn't see it in his initial read, he's gonna run. Kyle couldn't implement the playbook the way you would if he was taking all the reps since OTAs. That's pretty obvious by the game plan.

No one knows when he got the knee sprain, saying it happened outside the pocket is conjecture.

Most of his runs that game were designed runs, not scrambles. Most rookie QB's don't have that many rushing attempts, they just throw incompletions and interceptions. Kyle wasn't going to accept that so he put Trey in harm's way to try and get a win. Very selfish and short sighted. He learned that from his dad though who did the same thing to RGIII.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
I think it's pretty obvious that the injury came from getting hit. But if you think running a Quarterback 16 times a game is a good idea, that's your right but I think it pretty stupid. He's a Quarterback. If you have to run him that much there is something wrong.

Who said it was a good idea? No one. That's what happens when you toss in a rookie QB who hasn't done anything with the 1st string and hasn't even been practicing the playbook week to week as a scout QB. If he doesn't see it in his initial read, he's gonna run. Kyle couldn't implement the playbook the way you would if he was taking all the reps since OTAs. That's pretty obvious by the game plan.

No one knows when he got the knee sprain, saying it happened outside the pocket is conjecture.

Most of his runs that game were designed runs, not scrambles. Most rookie QB's don't have that many rushing attempts, they just throw incompletions and interceptions. Kyle wasn't going to accept that so he put Trey in harm's way to try and get a win. Very selfish and short sighted. He learned that from his dad though who did the same thing to RGIII.

I thought I read somewhere that half were designed QB runs in the AZ game.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
I think it's pretty obvious that the injury came from getting hit. But if you think running a Quarterback 16 times a game is a good idea, that's your right but I think it pretty stupid. He's a Quarterback. If you have to run him that much there is something wrong.

Who said it was a good idea? No one. That's what happens when you toss in a rookie QB who hasn't done anything with the 1st string and hasn't even been practicing the playbook week to week as a scout QB. If he doesn't see it in his initial read, he's gonna run. Kyle couldn't implement the playbook the way you would if he was taking all the reps since OTAs. That's pretty obvious by the game plan.

No one knows when he got the knee sprain, saying it happened outside the pocket is conjecture.

YAC was making a point that people are overreacting about Trey running but most people know he will use his legs when need be. That's not what people are worried about. People are worried about the unnecessary called runs and putting himself in danger when he's literally all we have. Again his mobility was a reason we drafted him, that's not the discussion, the discussion is the unnecessary runs and hits he needs to not take. Say what you want but knees usually don't sprain themselves.

If he's going to be a great QB his running will be minimal. This was Kaps downfall. He needs to be a QB first who uses his mobility when there is no other option.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
YAC was making a point that people are overreacting about Trey running but most people know he will use his legs when need be. That's not what people are worried about. People are worried about the unnecessary called runs and putting himself in danger when he's literally all we have. Again his mobility was a reason we drafted him, that's not the discussion, the discussion is the unnecessary runs and hits he needs to not take. Say what you want but knees usually don't sprain themselves.

If he's going to be a great QB his running will be minimal. This was Kaps downfall. He needs to be a QB first who uses his mobility when there is no other option.

Half the amount of runs vs the Texans. We're debating the worlds smallest sample size. Again no one is saying it's a good idea to run your QB 16+ times a game. It was his first start with little practice. I'm judging next to nothing from that start as far as his usage/trajectory as a QB goes. No one should be.

say what? Knee sprains can happen inside the pocket all the same. He got hit there as well. You're proclaiming one play as to where he got hurt and not realizing it wasn't even the same knee.

I would expect Lance to be used similarly as Allen/Watson as far as rushing goes 90-120 attempts a year.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
YAC was making a point that people are overreacting about Trey running but most people know he will use his legs when need be. That's not what people are worried about. People are worried about the unnecessary called runs and putting himself in danger when he's literally all we have. Again his mobility was a reason we drafted him, that's not the discussion, the discussion is the unnecessary runs and hits he needs to not take. Say what you want but knees usually don't sprain themselves.

If he's going to be a great QB his running will be minimal. This was Kaps downfall. He needs to be a QB first who uses his mobility when there is no other option.

This is an oversimplification. Roman's scheme was built around Kap's strengths. At Nevada Kap was an option + deep bomb QB. That was their offense. He had to learn to be a pocket QB.

Lance is a pocket QB from a pro-style offense. He can operate under center and he can call out line assignments. The threat of the QB running will elevate this offense because D coordinators will have to scheme for 11 on 11 football. If Lance rolls out and there's open field in front of him, I want him to check down to the run instead of forcing him to be a pure pocket passer. He's not Drew Brees.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Watch him grab the knee on the final replay. It was severe enough to keep him out the next week. This is not QBing. And yes it was hard hit lol.

The next week was a bye week and Jimmy was the starter and came back to continue being the starter.

Also, he didn't get up holding his knee. He touched his knee, got up and walked away fine.

Coach Kyle Shanahan said today that Lance has a knee sprain and might not be available for the 49ers' next game, in two weeks against the Colts. The 49ers are on their bye this week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/11/trey-lance-may-miss-time-with-knee-sprain/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-151370/

I am not saying that he didn't leave the game with a knee sprain. I am saying that we don't know exactly when it happened. Nor do we know how severe it actually was.

Meh... I think it's pretty obvious. But if you think running a Quarterback 16 times a game is a good idea, that's your right but I think it pretty stupid. He's a Quarterback. If you have to run him that much there is something wrong.

Why are you putting words in my mouth? I didn't say that I think it is a good idea to run a QB 16 times a game. However, if you think that Trey isn't going to be part of Kyle's running game, you are in for a rude awakening.

If I had to guess about Trey's knee sprain situation. I would say that the injury was very minor and Kyle used it as an excuse to continue to sit Trey because he clearly wasn't ready to take over at that point in the season.

On a side note, JonnyDel did a great job in his video breakdown showing how Kyle is going to use Lance's mobility to play 11x11. And yes, he absolutely is going to use him in the run game.

Tear up the league, Trey.

No doubt in my mind that Trey will be a big part of the running game.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Watch him grab the knee on the final replay. It was severe enough to keep him out the next week. This is not QBing. And yes it was hard hit lol.

The next week was a bye week and Jimmy was the starter and came back to continue being the starter.

Also, he didn't get up holding his knee. He touched his knee, got up and walked away fine.

Coach Kyle Shanahan said today that Lance has a knee sprain and might not be available for the 49ers' next game, in two weeks against the Colts. The 49ers are on their bye this week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/11/trey-lance-may-miss-time-with-knee-sprain/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-151370/

I am not saying that he didn't leave the game with a knee sprain. I am saying that we don't know exactly when it happened. Nor do we know how severe it actually was.

Meh... I think it's pretty obvious. But if you think running a Quarterback 16 times a game is a good idea, that's your right but I think it pretty stupid. He's a Quarterback. If you have to run him that much there is something wrong.

Why are you putting words in my mouth? I didn't say that I think it is a good idea to run a QB 16 times a game. However, if you think that Trey isn't going to be part of Kyle's running game, you are in for a rude awakening.

If I had to guess about Trey's knee sprain situation. I would say that the injury was very minor and Kyle used it as an excuse to continue to sit Trey because he clearly wasn't ready to take over at that point in the season.

On a side note, JonnyDel did a great job in his video breakdown showing how Kyle is going to use Lance's mobility to play 11x11. And yes, he absolutely is going to use him in the run game.

Yes he did. I missed me some jonnydel football academy.

Originally posted by lamontb:
No doubt in my mind that Trey will be a big part of the running game.

Even him being a decoy in the run game will make a huge difference.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Watch him grab the knee on the final replay. It was severe enough to keep him out the next week. This is not QBing. And yes it was hard hit lol.

The next week was a bye week and Jimmy was the starter and came back to continue being the starter.

Also, he didn't get up holding his knee. He touched his knee, got up and walked away fine.

Coach Kyle Shanahan said today that Lance has a knee sprain and might not be available for the 49ers' next game, in two weeks against the Colts. The 49ers are on their bye this week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/11/trey-lance-may-miss-time-with-knee-sprain/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-151370/

I am not saying that he didn't leave the game with a knee sprain. I am saying that we don't know exactly when it happened. Nor do we know how severe it actually was.

Meh... I think it's pretty obvious. But if you think running a Quarterback 16 times a game is a good idea, that's your right but I think it pretty stupid. He's a Quarterback. If you have to run him that much there is something wrong.

Why are you putting words in my mouth? I didn't say that I think it is a good idea to run a QB 16 times a game. However, if you think that Trey isn't going to be part of Kyle's running game, you are in for a rude awakening.

If I had to guess about Trey's knee sprain situation. I would say that the injury was very minor and Kyle used it as an excuse to continue to sit Trey because he clearly wasn't ready to take over at that point in the season.

On a side note, JonnyDel did a great job in his video breakdown showing how Kyle is going to use Lance's mobility to play 11x11. And yes, he absolutely is going to use him in the run game.

Of course he is going to use him in the run game.