Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
lol I knew I saw this narrative before, just 4 years ago.
Clueless fans will always overreact for practice performances. At this time Chiefs fans were panicking, asking for the FO head for trading away Alex Smith while they watched their redshirted 22 years old kid throw 7 picks in 6 practices. And lets not forget they had an abomination of a defense that year.
https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/08/01/concerning-patrick-mahomes-interceptions-training-camp/
https://sportsnaut.com/chiefs-patrick-mahomes-has-been-a-mistake-filled-mess-during-camp/

May we also remember when Brian Hoyer was like a training camp All Pro?
Oh sure if the offense was firing then clueless fans would be crying about how bad the defense is, am I right?
I'm glad to not be a teams fan and limit myself to be a follower.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
lol I knew I saw this narrative before, just 4 years ago.
Clueless fans will always overreact for practice performances. At this time Chiefs fans were panicking, asking for the FO head for trading away Alex Smith while they watched their redshirted 22 years old kid throw 7 picks in 6 practices. And lets not forget they had an abomination of a defense that year.
https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/08/01/concerning-patrick-mahomes-interceptions-training-camp/
https://sportsnaut.com/chiefs-patrick-mahomes-has-been-a-mistake-filled-mess-during-camp/

May we also remember when Brian Hoyer was like a training camp All Pro?
Oh sure if the offense was firing then clueless fans would be crying about how bad the defense is, am I right?
I'm glad to not be a teams fan and limit myself to be a follower.

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
lol I knew I saw this narrative before, just 4 years ago.
Clueless fans will always overreact for practice performances. At this time Chiefs fans were panicking, asking for the FO head for trading away Alex Smith while they watched their redshirted 22 years old kid throw 7 picks in 6 practices. And lets not forget they had an abomination of a defense that year.
https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/08/01/concerning-patrick-mahomes-interceptions-training-camp/
https://sportsnaut.com/chiefs-patrick-mahomes-has-been-a-mistake-filled-mess-during-camp/

May we also remember when Brian Hoyer was like a training camp All Pro?
Oh sure if the offense was firing then clueless fans would be crying about how bad the defense is, am I right?
I'm glad to not be a teams fan and limit myself to be a follower.

Exactly lol even Shanny said it in the presser today, he's practicing to see what windows he can and can't hit. He's learning what his tight windows are against a tough secondary, I can guarantee during the regular season he will be a lot more careful with the ball. It's why I didn't care about his completion percentage on Wednesday even though it was good it was short passes. Deeper passes means tougher passes

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Well if Trey sat on the bench for the first 4 years of those seven and took this team to he SB after just over two years of starting it would be different.

But he reality is we have used 3 first and a 3rd to get over the hump with a SB caliber team. Can't lower the bar now.

Btw, Jimmy is gone. He has no bearing on this teams wins or losses, as currently constructed.

The bar is about individual QB play. There are so many factors that go into winning, and winning in the playoffs. Jimmy has been the absolute sh*ts in the playoffs, yet we won. If Lance is lights out in the playoffs and we lose, it should be obvious that the blame should be assigned elsewhere.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
The bar is about individual QB play.

First of all, QB position is dependent on a lot of other factors. So even then it's difficult to set the bar at "individual QB play".

Second of all, I've already stated that in one and done game scenarios, like the playoffs, anything can happen. Best team, or QB, doesn't always win. That's why my bar is at the very least reaching the playoffs.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
The bar is about individual QB play.

First of all, QB position is dependent on a lot of other factors. So even then it's difficult to set the bar at "individual QB play".

Second of all, I've already stated that in one and done game scenarios, like the playoffs, anything can happen. Best team, or QB, doesn't always win. That's why my bar is at the very least reaching the playoffs.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
maiocco saying trey's throwing a tighter spiral and looks more accurate

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Well if Trey sat on the bench for the first 4 years of those seven and took this team to he SB after just over two years of starting it would be different.

But he reality is we have used 3 first and a 3rd to get over the hump with a SB caliber team. Can't lower the bar now.

Btw, Jimmy is gone. He has no bearing on this teams wins or losses, as currently constructed.

The bar is about individual QB play. There are so many factors that go into winning, and winning in the playoffs. Jimmy has been the absolute sh*ts in the playoffs, yet we won. If Lance is lights out in the playoffs and we lose, it should be obvious that the blame should be assigned elsewhere.

And the backpedal is set up! Lol amazing

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
The bar is about individual QB play.

First of all, QB position is dependent on a lot of other factors. So even then it's difficult to set the bar at "individual QB play".

Second of all, I've already stated that in one and done game scenarios, like the playoffs, anything can happen. Best team, or QB, doesn't always win. That's why my bar is at the very least reaching the playoffs.

These guys literally think that football is merely "a sum of its parts." Take out Jimmy G, insert Trey (or any ol' QB) and voila! The team will be better. It's so ridiculous it's hard to even have a conversation when that's the starting point.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Well if Trey sat on the bench for the first 4 years of those seven and took this team to he SB after just over two years of starting it would be different.

But he reality is we have used 3 first and a 3rd to get over the hump with a SB caliber team. Can't lower the bar now.

Btw, Jimmy is gone. He has no bearing on this teams wins or losses, as currently constructed.

The bar is about individual QB play. There are so many factors that go into winning, and winning in the playoffs. Jimmy has been the absolute sh*ts in the playoffs, yet we won. If Lance is lights out in the playoffs and we lose, it should be obvious that the blame should be assigned elsewhere.

And the backpedal is set up! Lol amazing

Zero backpedaling from me. I think from an individual standpoint, I believe Lance can come close to replicating what Jimmy did last year at minimum. I refuse to put the bar at the NFCCG because from a QB standpoint, ours didn't really do anything in the playoffs to get us there.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
No excuses for failure here. Playoffs or this season is a huge let down. And yes there is definitely more positions than QB but I still feel this team is too good to not make the playoffs. That's if the team stats relatively healthy obviously. Trey doesn't have to be hero, just be smart. I have full faith he'll be fine.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
The bar is about individual QB play.

First of all, QB position is dependent on a lot of other factors. So even then it's difficult to set the bar at "individual QB play".

Second of all, I've already stated that in one and done game scenarios, like the playoffs, anything can happen. Best team, or QB, doesn't always win. That's why my bar is at the very least reaching the playoffs.

Im confused. You don't like the bar being individual QB play because it's dependant on a lot of other factors. But somehow the bar should be making the playoffs, as if that bar is somehow not dependant on a lot of other factors?

K.