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Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by WINiner:
The children crying about practice in TC are the same kids who were crying about int's last TC from GQ who took us to the NFCCG. Call me when TC is over and the reps actually mean something.

Trey put up way better practice stats than Jimmy last TC yet Jimmy still got the starting job. Its like coaches know what they're evaluating and fans have no clue lol

Lol
Iron sharpens iron
Good defense or bad offense? Nothing to worry about till we find out more.
To put this in perspective, Justin Herbert is 8-20 in the 1st 2 days of camp.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
To put this in perspective, Justin Herbert is 8-20 in the 1st 2 days of camp.

What are Trey's numbers?
Are we really keeping boxscore stats for training camp?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Are we really keeping boxscore stats for training camp?


Yes. LOL. I won't put too much into them or anything like that. At least I am not one of those posters hitting the panic button after just 2 practices.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Jul 30, 2022 at 7:18 AM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Some of the "weirdness" with evaluations as Mahomes sees it...

Patrick Mahomes has taken notice of the "weird" criticisms that he and other Black quarterbacks in the NFL have received lately.

Though he didn't want to say that Black quarterbacks are evaluated differently than their white counterparts, Mahomes thinks the comments that he, Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray have gotten this week are strange.

"Obviously, the Black quarterback has had to battle to be in this position that we are to have this many guys in the league playing," Mahomes said Friday, KSHB's Aaron Ladd. "I think every day, we're proving that we should have been playing the whole time. We've got guys that can think just as well as they can use their athleticism.

"It's always weird when you see guys like me, Lamar [Jackson], Kyler [Murray] kind of get that on them when other guys don't. But at the same time we're going out there to prove ourselves every day to show we can be some of the best quarterbacks in the league."
Patrick Mahomes on 'weird' criticisms he and other Black quarterbacks have faced this week
Funny coming from Mahomes. Kid could drop his drawers on the 50 yd line and take a dump and the announcers would find a way to praise him. Total media darling.
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Originally posted by Scooper1:
Originally posted by random49er:
Some of the "weirdness" with evaluations as Mahomes sees it...

Patrick Mahomes has taken notice of the "weird" criticisms that he and other Black quarterbacks in the NFL have received lately.

Though he didn't want to say that Black quarterbacks are evaluated differently than their white counterparts, Mahomes thinks the comments that he, Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray have gotten this week are strange.

"Obviously, the Black quarterback has had to battle to be in this position that we are to have this many guys in the league playing," Mahomes said Friday, KSHB's Aaron Ladd. "I think every day, we're proving that we should have been playing the whole time. We've got guys that can think just as well as they can use their athleticism.

"It's always weird when you see guys like me, Lamar [Jackson], Kyler [Murray] kind of get that on them when other guys don't. But at the same time we're going out there to prove ourselves every day to show we can be some of the best quarterbacks in the league."
Patrick Mahomes on 'weird' criticisms he and other Black quarterbacks have faced this week
Funny coming from Mahomes. Kid could drop his drawers on the 50 yd line and take a dump and the announcers would find a way to praise him. Total media darling.

Hopefully Trey will be a media darling like that sooner rather than later. Joe and Steve were pretty cool about it.
Originally posted by Scooper1:
Originally posted by random49er:
Some of the "weirdness" with evaluations as Mahomes sees it...

Patrick Mahomes has taken notice of the "weird" criticisms that he and other Black quarterbacks in the NFL have received lately.

Though he didn't want to say that Black quarterbacks are evaluated differently than their white counterparts, Mahomes thinks the comments that he, Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray have gotten this week are strange.

"Obviously, the Black quarterback has had to battle to be in this position that we are to have this many guys in the league playing," Mahomes said Friday, KSHB's Aaron Ladd. "I think every day, we're proving that we should have been playing the whole time. We've got guys that can think just as well as they can use their athleticism.

"It's always weird when you see guys like me, Lamar [Jackson], Kyler [Murray] kind of get that on them when other guys don't. But at the same time we're going out there to prove ourselves every day to show we can be some of the best quarterbacks in the league."
Patrick Mahomes on 'weird' criticisms he and other Black quarterbacks have faced this week
Funny coming from Mahomes. Kid could drop his drawers on the 50 yd line and take a dump and the announcers would find a way to praise him. Total media darling.

Bingo. Folks kiss the ground Mahomes walks on. Coming from him the statement falls flat. We have organizations trading outlandish packages to move up and draft these guys (for their brains and god gifted abilities) over less gifted athletes and they get "weird criticisms". Pfft, okay Chief, as if your ass hasn't been kissed since you became the starter. Everyone is held accountable for their actions and their skin tone (as implied by Mahomes) has zero, zip, and zilch of a factor in that evaluation.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Hopefully Trey will be a media darling like that sooner rather than later. Joe and Steve were pretty cool about it.

Agreed! And I think he will if he performs. He is such a good speaker and carries him self sooo well. Yet doesn't come off completely fake like Russ.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
To put this in perspective, Justin Herbert is 8-20 in the 1st 2 days of camp.

What are Trey's numbers?

Over three days; 15-32 with 2 ints per Lombardi.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TSmlDevRbXaNFf-0IFOzuX_OveNun_nioZ8zHKJLKts/edit#gid=0
[ Edited by SonocoNinerFan on Jul 30, 2022 at 7:56 AM ]
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Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
At the end of the day, none of this matters. The team is ready to win now. There are vets that can't afford to waste any seasons. You think a HOF like Trent will be fine with waiting another 2 to 3 years? Doubt it. He won't be in the locker room thinking, " well at least he's not jimmy" lol

Trent is probably extremely stoked at Treys upside. More big plays and ability to run makes his job easier.

Probably. I'm sure he's going to like a QB that can extend plays when protection fails. But on the flip side, scrambling QBs can also make OT life a little harder. Not knowing where the QB is going to be sitting/scrambling might lead to some unnecessary holding calls. Also, OT like to know that ball out in 2.5 -3 seconds.

Anyways, that's beside the point I was making. So let's try and get back to that. At the end of the day, he wants to win, whether it's a mobile QB or pocket QB .

here's a quote after joining the 9ers with our previous QB.

"I've played a lot of football, I haven't won a lot of games," Williams said. "I just wanted that to change. I'm an ultracompetitive guy regardless. I tend to probably go the extra mile when I shouldn't. Doing that when you know that at the end of the year when you have a real possibility of holding up the Lombardi Trophy, I think it makes you -- it's a lot easier. The vibe is different. You work for a different reason as opposed to just trying to maintain a level of elite play when games might not go your way every Sunday."

I think the players do feel like Trent, in that they have a good shot at the playoffs and beyond this year. Maybe even a 6th 🏆. Trey is going to be key in that pursuit.

I think teams are going to play zone predominantly against Trey, if he develops as a passer. If teams play Man against Trey, he can turn and just run it for huge gains a la Kaepernick in the Green Bay playoffs. I predict that the running backs are going to have huge pass receiving numbers this year because defenses will drop to cover Trey's howitzer deep passes, and will have to come up to stop Trey's possible broken field runs. Those RB dump offs are going to gash a lot of defenses. Again, this is if Trey develops as a passer.

But first and foremost, Trey has to handle the blitz almost as well as Jimmy did last year as a first step to develop into a great passer.
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Originally posted by Scooper1:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Hopefully Trey will be a media darling like that sooner rather than later. Joe and Steve were pretty cool about it.

Agreed! And I think he will if he performs. He is such a good speaker and carries him self sooo well. Yet doesn't come off completely fake like Russ.

Trey has a good media presence about him. I think he's very articulate. I think it helps that he has a GM who's a former broadcaster and a QB coach who's a former broadcaster on his team coaching him on media matters. I can see him be another talking head like Steve Young - in the far off distant future too.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Trey has a good media presence about him. I think he's very articulate. I think it helps that he has a GM who's a former broadcaster and a QB coach who's a former broadcaster on his team coaching him on media matters. I can see him be another talking head like Steve Young - in the far off distant future too.

I have one small criticism that I think Trey could work on. He needs to stop saying everything is Super. He's super excited about the season. The team is looking super good. He's been working super hard. Just please drop the super . It makes him sound like a junior high school kid.

I know it's a small thing but it bothers me when he speaks just like Kyle's constant umm's during his speeches.

Hopefully that's the worst thing I'll be able to say about him after the season.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Jul 30, 2022 at 8:06 AM ]
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