Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Which to me are just as hollow. Not many QB's throw under 60% and are successful. On the other hand QB's can have low ADOT and still be succesful.

It's called context of numbers. I don't expect Lance to complete less then 60% of his passes. High completion % doesn't equal great QB play either. 2020 guys like Mitch trubuisky, Teddy B, Fitzmagic all had 67% or higher.

s**t Cam Newton who was awful in NE completed 65%. I want my completions to meaningful overall.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with adding more data to the convo to isolate what should matter. I value a 11 yard out route more than a 2 yard check down when we're talking about QB play and completions. That's all

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Again not a single QB threw under 60% and been successful in the past 3-5 seasons.
https://www.ftnfantasy.com/air-yards

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Which to me are just as hollow. Not many QB's throw under 60% and are successful. On the other hand QB's can have low ADOT and still be succesful.

It's called context of numbers. I don't expect Lance to complete less then 60% of his passes. High completion % doesn't equal great QB play either. 2020 guys like Mitch trubuisky, Teddy B, Fitzmagic all had 67% or higher.

s**t Cam Newton who was awful in NE completed 65%. I want my completions to meaningful overall.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with adding more data to the convo to isolate what should matter. I value a 11 yard out route more than a 2 yard check down when we're talking about QB play and completions. That's all

Neither does high aDot though... Rodgers, Mahomes, Herbert all had sub-par aDot yet were successful. Again not a single QB threw under 60% and been successful in the past 3-5 seasons. This is 100% fact. You simply cannot name me one QB who had a good season in the last 3-5 years that had a low comp %. On the other hand Rodgers won MVP for having less aDot than Mac F* Jones lol.

https://www.ftnfantasy.com/air-yards

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Again not a single QB threw under 60% and been successful in the past 3-5 seasons.
https://www.ftnfantasy.com/air-yards

Still dodging. Josh Allen was successful in improving his game and developing into a better QB while under 60%. It's possible to be under 60% and throw for a helluva lot of TDs,..as you've been shown. MVP years like those though are not successful,...and you get to make up a cut-off year and avoid the results like they never happened, just because?

Originally posted by random49er:
"Great"....?? Where did greatness come in?

What about the several MVP seasons u've been shown with guys under 60%? Were those great years or no?

BTW....the OP having a barometer of not acceptable is a far, far way away from your barometer of what was great and what wasnt.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
If you guys wan't to make excuses for Trey failing already that's fine, I disagree with your fears though as Trey will easily surpass that as it's a very simple accoladed in today's NFL as I've pointed out. If you're expectations are that extremely low then I can't change your mind. I would be willing to bet you something not overly serious(though I'd put a lot of money on it but I don't want it to be serious) that Trey throws better than 60%.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
If you guys wan't to make excuses for Trey failing already that's fine, I disagree with your fears though as Trey will easily surpass that as it's a very simple accoladed in today's NFL as I've pointed out. If you're expectations are that extremely low then I can't change your mind. I would be willing to bet you something not overly serious(though I'd put a lot of money on it but I don't want it to be serious) that Trey throws better than 60%.

There are a # of examples of completion %'s not only being under 60%,...but being great years as well. You have already admitted without realizing it that you disagree with the OP saying it's not acceptable (see your Josh Allen comment). Anything further than this is induced argument.

Originally posted by random49er:
This wasn't about Trey. This was about the OP saying completion %s under 60% for the year are unacceptable years. The evidence we have on record says otherwise.

Originally posted by random49er:
This wasn't about Trey. This was about the OP saying completion %s under 60% for the year are unacceptable years. The evidence we have on record says otherwise.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
If you guys wan't to make excuses for Trey failing already that's fine, I disagree with your fears though as Trey will easily surpass that as it's a very simple accoladed in today's NFL as I've pointed out. If you're expectations are that extremely low then I can't change your mind. I would be willing to bet you something not overly serious(though I'd put a lot of money on it but I don't want it to be serious) that Trey throws better than 60%.

There are a # of examples of completion %'s not only being under 60%,...but being great years as well. You have already admitted without realizing it that you disagree with the OP saying it's not acceptable (see your Josh Allen comment). Anything further than this is induced argument.

Take my bet then. Name change. Trey will throw better than 60%. If he does you get a name change for a season. If not it's me. You won't though because you know I'm right. You know damn well 60% is a very easy task.

Having Kittle, Deebo, and Aiyuk and not throwing 60% is inexcusable. Quit short changing Trey

Originally posted by thl408:
wow name change bet. this is high stakes here

Originally posted by thl408:
wow name change bet. this is high stakes here