Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
It's up to Lance and his drive to be great.

no better place to be for a young QB than to be here is a great start

Not looking forward to those that bash the kid when he has a poor game. This offseason he emphasized foot work so hopefully he incorporates accuracy in the future. Probably won't happen this year based on those watching training camp and he may never be an accurate pocket QB. We just need a playmaker that makes plays and not picks during crunch time.

I'm more concerned about our Oline than I am with Trey. I'm expecting a 50% completion rate. It will be refreshing to see the ball go down the field opposed to down the middle. I'm excited to see what Shanny does once Trey gets comfortable in this offense.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
We were a dropped interceptions from being in the superbowl and it was the wrong decision to sit Trey.

Were they going to just end the game with 9 minutes left? A lot of blame for the loss gets put on Tartt for that drop, but the offense still did nothing down the stretch in that game. 6 points on offense in the divisional round, 17 points in the NFC Championship game. The offense really let us down in the playoffs.

This really irritates me. The defense let us down in the nfc championship game. It is so easy to forget how that defense got manhandled in the 1st half. That 10 minute td drive was demoralizing. The failure to stop the rams in The 4th quarter in each and every possession. The way kupp annihilated Williams.

Even after that, somehow, the niners were still up after Jimmy finds kittle in the end zone. What does the defense do? Immediately Give up 2 stupid penalties and let the rams drive down the field.

So while the offense didn't do its part in the playoffs for sure, that defense took a massive dump in the nfc championship game. The total points scored by the Rams means nothing.

In the end, the defense only gave up 20 points. That should be enough to win. We had the ball on offense down only 3 with the opportunity to drive down and win the game.

The Rams held the ball for 35:39 compared to 24:21 for the Niners. 99 plays to our 70. They were running at will on our front 7 and controlling the clock, picking up 11/18 3rd down conversions. Our defense got destroyed that game. Saying "they only gave up 20 points" totally ignores the pace and flow of the game, which was our defense getting physically manhandled the entire game. Of course our offense could have done more, but let's not act like the defense did them any favors.

The goal is to score points. A team could have 45 minutes of possession and be 75% on third down, but if they only score 10 points, the offense did not play well. Was our defense perfect? No, of course not, but 17 points on offense is far worse than just "they could have done more".

Our offense was 3/9 on 3rd down. The real issue was that the offense couldn't run the ball and couldn't sustain drives. That is why the time of possession was so lopsided.

Both teams had 9 drives each. It took the rams converting 11 3rd downs to score 20 points. It took our offense converting 3 3rd downs to score 17 points. If our offense was anywhere near as productive as the rams, the score wouldn't have even been close.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
I've been saying this for a while. I really don't think Kyle is going to go away from being a run first HC where he's not afraid to run it 35-40 times. He'll most definitely want to go vertical more but I still think his base offense will stay run the ball, get the ball out quick, and strategically capitalize vertically when the time is right.

In theory, more of a deep shot threat will only help back off the LBs and improve the run game even more, so yeah, Kyle will definitely be using his run game a lot still.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Rams did not run at will. 70 yards at 2.4 a pop lol. The D did more than enough to win that game

Tell me you didn't watch the game, without telling me that you didn't watch the game.

Was about to say the same thing about you 🤣
probably too focused watching Lance throw "wobblers" on the side

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Rams did not run at will. 70 yards at 2.4 a pop lol. The D did more than enough to win that game

Tell me you didn't watch the game, without telling me that you didn't watch the game.

Was about to say the same thing about you 🤣
probably too focused watching Lance throw "wobblers" on the side

I was at the game. Our front 7 got destroyed.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
We were a dropped interceptions from being in the superbowl and it was the wrong decision to sit Trey.

Were they going to just end the game with 9 minutes left? A lot of blame for the loss gets put on Tartt for that drop, but the offense still did nothing down the stretch in that game. 6 points on offense in the divisional round, 17 points in the NFC Championship game. The offense really let us down in the playoffs.

This really irritates me. The defense let us down in the nfc championship game. It is so easy to forget how that defense got manhandled in the 1st half. That 10 minute td drive was demoralizing. The failure to stop the rams in The 4th quarter in each and every possession. The way kupp annihilated Williams.

Even after that, somehow, the niners were still up after Jimmy finds kittle in the end zone. What does the defense do? Immediately Give up 2 stupid penalties and let the rams drive down the field.

So while the offense didn't do its part in the playoffs for sure, that defense took a massive dump in the nfc championship game. The total points scored by the Rams means nothing.

In the end, the defense only gave up 20 points. That should be enough to win. We had the ball on offense down only 3 with the opportunity to drive down and win the game.

The Rams held the ball for 35:39 compared to 24:21 for the Niners. 99 plays to our 70. They were running at will on our front 7 and controlling the clock, picking up 11/18 3rd down conversions. Our defense got destroyed that game. Saying "they only gave up 20 points" totally ignores the pace and flow of the game, which was our defense getting physically manhandled the entire game. Of course our offense could have done more, but let's not act like the defense did them any favors.

The goal is to score points. A team could have 45 minutes of possession and be 75% on third down, but if they only score 10 points, the offense did not play well. Was our defense perfect? No, of course not, but 17 points on offense is far worse than just "they could have done more".

Our offense was 3/9 on 3rd down. The real issue was that the offense couldn't run the ball and couldn't sustain drives. That is why the time of possession was so lopsided.

Both teams had 9 drives each. It took the rams converting 11 3rd downs to score 20 points. It took our offense converting 3 3rd downs to score 17 points. If our offense was anywhere near as productive as the rams, the score wouldn't have even been close.

Ah so by "productive," you mean more than just scoring points. You sir, understand football.

Lmao

Lol the same guys who argued non stop about a QB not being responsible for wins and that's it's a team stat suddenly blame the QB for losses.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol the same guys who argued non stop about a QB not being responsible for wins and that's it's a team stat suddenly blame the QB for losses.

The thing about football is that one guy can't win you games, but one guy can certainly lose them for you. It's just like what Bosa said about Trey the other day: "As long he doesn't constantly make the big mistakes and screw us over like Jimmy did, we'll be okay." That's not the exact quote, but its the gist of what he said anyways.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol the same guys who argued non stop about a QB not being responsible for wins and that's it's a team stat suddenly blame the QB for losses.

The thing about football is that one guy can't win you games, but one guy can certainly lose them for you. It's just like what Bosa said about Trey the other day: "As long he doesn't constantly make the big mistakes and screw us over like Jimmy did, we'll be okay." That's not the exact quote, but its the gist of what he said anyways.

Yeah, pretty sure Bosa didn't say anything even close to that about the other guy but by all means lie. And lol at "they can lose games and not win". That doesn't make sense but again you had to completely make s**t up so have at it.

Back to Trey, if y'all wanna talk about the other guy every post I won't stop you.

Hopefully Trey is the one to finally get us over that hump. He's got the ability he just needs to live up to it.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol the same guys who argued non stop about a QB not being responsible for wins and that's it's a team stat suddenly blame the QB for losses.

The thing about football is that one guy can't win you games, but one guy can certainly lose them for you. It's just like what Bosa said about Trey the other day: "As long he doesn't constantly make the big mistakes and screw us over like Jimmy did, we'll be okay." That's not the exact quote, but its the gist of what he said anyways.

Yeah, pretty sure Bosa didn't say anything even close to that about the other guy but by all means lie. And lol at "they can lose games and not win". That doesn't make sense but again you had to completely make s**t up so have at it.

Back to Trey, if y'all wanna talk about the other guy every post I won't stop you.

Hopefully Trey is the one to finally get us over that hump. He's got the ability he just needs to live up to it.

Here's Bosa's exact quote: "I think if he doesn't make big mistakes, we're going to be in good shape." He doesn't need to mention Jimmy by name for the implication to be clear.

I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept. Think about it in terms of a single play. In order for a play to be successful, all 11 players (or at least those involved in the play) need to do their jobs. No one single player can make the play succeed on their own. However, if one player completely misses their blocking assignment or fumbles the ball or whatever then the play will fail due to that one single player. We see that play out on basically every snap. Jimmy way too often was the one that didn't do his job and cost the team, especially in the playoffs. That's why he got fired. Now we have to hope Trey is better.

Originally posted by Furlow:
I was at the game. Our front 7 got destroyed.

Yah that's not what happened. Secondary got destroyed by a QB throwing darts while under pressure. Simple as that.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol the same guys who argued non stop about a QB not being responsible for wins and that's it's a team stat suddenly blame the QB for losses.

The thing about football is that one guy can't win you games, but one guy can certainly lose them for you. It's just like what Bosa said about Trey the other day: "As long he doesn't constantly make the big mistakes and screw us over like Jimmy did, we'll be okay." That's not the exact quote, but its the gist of what he said anyways.

Yeah, pretty sure Bosa didn't say anything even close to that about the other guy but by all means lie. And lol at "they can lose games and not win". That doesn't make sense but again you had to completely make s**t up so have at it.

Back to Trey, if y'all wanna talk about the other guy every post I won't stop you.

Hopefully Trey is the one to finally get us over that hump. He's got the ability he just needs to live up to it.

Here's Bosa's exact quote: "I think if he doesn't make big mistakes, we're going to be in good shape." He doesn't need to mention Jimmy by name for the implication to be clear.

I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept. Think about it in terms of a single play. In order for a play to be successful, all 11 players (or at least those involved in the play) need to do their jobs. No one single player can make the play succeed on their own. However, if one player completely misses their blocking assignment or fumbles the ball or whatever then the play will fail due to that one single player. We see that play out on basically every snap. Jimmy way too often was the one that didn't do his job and cost the team, especially in the playoffs. That's why he got fired. Now we have to hope Trey is better.

That quote has absolutely nothing to do with the other guy lol. Absolutely nothing... You are reaching like never before.

He's simply pointing out Trey will be fine if he limits mistakes. It's pretty damn straight forward dude. It's not some subliminal hit like you fabricated.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Here's Bosa's exact quote: "I think if he doesn't make big mistakes, we're going to be in good shape." He doesn't need to mention Jimmy by name for the implication to be clear.

I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept. Think about it in terms of a single play. In order for a play to be successful, all 11 players (or at least those involved in the play) need to do their jobs. No one single player can make the play succeed on their own. However, if one player completely misses their blocking assignment or fumbles the ball or whatever then the play will fail due to that one single player. We see that play out on basically every snap. Jimmy way too often was the one that didn't do his job and cost the team, especially in the playoffs. That's why he got fired. Now we have to hope Trey is better.

Baalke would of drafted you in a heartbeat based off your reach.

Stop trying to infer sh*t that isnt there. It's a text book quote just like "If we all do our jobs and maintain our responsibilities we have a good chance to win" or "If we play like we know how then no one can stop us" or 'insert cliché line spouted by thousands of sports figures here'.

Stop hating just to hate, it's standard vanilla talk. limit mistakes equals better shot at winning??? No way! how have people not figured this out already!

Maybe if he said "Hopefully Trey doesnt start playing for the other team in the 4th quarter and with the lead...." then you can infer it was targeted at JG.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol the same guys who argued non stop about a QB not being responsible for wins and that's it's a team stat suddenly blame the QB for losses.

The thing about football is that one guy can't win you games, but one guy can certainly lose them for you. It's just like what Bosa said about Trey the other day: "As long he doesn't constantly make the big mistakes and screw us over like Jimmy did, we'll be okay." That's not the exact quote, but its the gist of what he said anyways.

Yeah, pretty sure Bosa didn't say anything even close to that about the other guy but by all means lie. And lol at "they can lose games and not win". That doesn't make sense but again you had to completely make s**t up so have at it.

Back to Trey, if y'all wanna talk about the other guy every post I won't stop you.

Hopefully Trey is the one to finally get us over that hump. He's got the ability he just needs to live up to it.

Here's Bosa's exact quote: "I think if he doesn't make big mistakes, we're going to be in good shape." He doesn't need to mention Jimmy by name for the implication to be clear.

I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept. Think about it in terms of a single play. In order for a play to be successful, all 11 players (or at least those involved in the play) need to do their jobs. No one single player can make the play succeed on their own. However, if one player completely misses their blocking assignment or fumbles the ball or whatever then the play will fail due to that one single player. We see that play out on basically every snap. Jimmy way too often was the one that didn't do his job and cost the team, especially in the playoffs. That's why he got fired. Now we have to hope Trey is better.

That quote has absolutely nothing to do with the other guy lol. Absolutely nothing... You are reaching like never before.

He's simply pointing out Trey will be fine if he limits mistakes. It's pretty damn straight forward dude. It's not some subliminal hit like you fabricated.

Bosa was definitely implying that the former QB did not limit mistakes. But whatever, agree to disagree. This is the Trey thread, no reason to bring the Kyle Williams of QBs into this discussion. That's the past now. Trey just needs to limit his mistakes and avoid them in crucial moments and the talent on this team is good enough to win a Super Bowl.