Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol the same guys who argued non stop about a QB not being responsible for wins and that's it's a team stat suddenly blame the QB for losses.

The thing about football is that one guy can't win you games, but one guy can certainly lose them for you. It's just like what Bosa said about Trey the other day: "As long he doesn't constantly make the big mistakes and screw us over like Jimmy did, we'll be okay." That's not the exact quote, but its the gist of what he said anyways.

Yeah, pretty sure Bosa didn't say anything even close to that about the other guy but by all means lie. And lol at "they can lose games and not win". That doesn't make sense but again you had to completely make s**t up so have at it.

Back to Trey, if y'all wanna talk about the other guy every post I won't stop you.

Hopefully Trey is the one to finally get us over that hump. He's got the ability he just needs to live up to it.

Here's Bosa's exact quote: "I think if he doesn't make big mistakes, we're going to be in good shape." He doesn't need to mention Jimmy by name for the implication to be clear.

I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept. Think about it in terms of a single play. In order for a play to be successful, all 11 players (or at least those involved in the play) need to do their jobs. No one single player can make the play succeed on their own. However, if one player completely misses their blocking assignment or fumbles the ball or whatever then the play will fail due to that one single player. We see that play out on basically every snap. Jimmy way too often was the one that didn't do his job and cost the team, especially in the playoffs. That's why he got fired. Now we have to hope Trey is better.

That quote has absolutely nothing to do with the other guy lol. Absolutely nothing... You are reaching like never before.

He's simply pointing out Trey will be fine if he limits mistakes. It's pretty damn straight forward dude. It's not some subliminal hit like you fabricated.

Boss was definitely implying that the former QB did not limit mistakes. But whatever, agree to disagree. This is the Trey thread, no reason to bring the Kyle Williams of QBs into this discussion. That's the past now. Trey just needs to limit his mistakes and avoid them in crucial moments and the talent on this team is good enough to win a Super Bowl.

No he wasn't lol.

And I agree. If the QB limits mistakes they win. Thus why they get credit. If they makes mistakes they lose. Thus why they get blamed. Trey doesn't have to be a hero but he still needs to be consistent and good playing the most important position in football. He's going to have to win games too.

Edit: and lmfao at this idea that we spent 3 first round picks on a position to simply not lose us games. How ridiculous lol. We drafted Trey to win us games. Now maybe not as a 22 year old sophomore, the expectations are tempered, but we spent all that capital so he can win us games.

So heres the thing, Mahomes wasnt that impressive his first camp as starter. Not saying Trey will be as good as Mahomes, but practice stats arent reliable indicators for how he will do in season.

Also is he really that inaccurate? Sure probably needs to keep honing it but i'm seeing a lot of hyperbole in here from posters that arent observing practices first hand. I mean in the games he played last year, he was accurate enough, the mistakes he made were all decision making/speed if the game related

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I was at the game. Our front 7 got destroyed.

Yah that's not what happened. Secondary got destroyed by a QB throwing darts while under pressure. Simple as that.

He must have been waiting in line for the bathroom or concessions and missed most of the game

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol the same guys who argued non stop about a QB not being responsible for wins and that's it's a team stat suddenly blame the QB for losses.

The thing about football is that one guy can't win you games, but one guy can certainly lose them for you. It's just like what Bosa said about Trey the other day: "As long he doesn't constantly make the big mistakes and screw us over like Jimmy did, we'll be okay." That's not the exact quote, but its the gist of what he said anyways.

Yeah, pretty sure Bosa didn't say anything even close to that about the other guy but by all means lie. And lol at "they can lose games and not win". That doesn't make sense but again you had to completely make s**t up so have at it.

Back to Trey, if y'all wanna talk about the other guy every post I won't stop you.

Hopefully Trey is the one to finally get us over that hump. He's got the ability he just needs to live up to it.

Here's Bosa's exact quote: "I think if he doesn't make big mistakes, we're going to be in good shape." He doesn't need to mention Jimmy by name for the implication to be clear.

I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept. Think about it in terms of a single play. In order for a play to be successful, all 11 players (or at least those involved in the play) need to do their jobs. No one single player can make the play succeed on their own. However, if one player completely misses their blocking assignment or fumbles the ball or whatever then the play will fail due to that one single player. We see that play out on basically every snap. Jimmy way too often was the one that didn't do his job and cost the team, especially in the playoffs. That's why he got fired. Now we have to hope Trey is better.

That quote has absolutely nothing to do with the other guy lol. Absolutely nothing... You are reaching like never before.

He's simply pointing out Trey will be fine if he limits mistakes. It's pretty damn straight forward dude. It's not some subliminal hit like you fabricated.

Bosa was definitely implying that the former QB did not limit mistakes. But whatever, agree to disagree. This is the Trey thread, no reason to bring the Kyle Williams of QBs into this discussion. That's the past now. Trey just needs to limit his mistakes and avoid them in crucial moments and the talent on this team is good enough to win a Super Bowl.

And you know this how? Did he call you up afterwards and tell you that's what he meant? It seems to me the more reasonable explanation is that Bosa knows the team is stacked and that they have elite players at almost every level on both sides of the ball and that if Lance lets the game come to him and doesn't try to do more than is required while he gains experience and gets his feet under him then he'll be okay. I swear the ceiling for stupid takes in this forum just keeps getting higher and higher.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Rams did not run at will. 70 yards at 2.4 a pop lol. The D did more than enough to win that game

Tell me you didn't watch the game, without telling me that you didn't watch the game.

Was about to say the same thing about you 🤣
probably too focused watching Lance throw "wobblers" on the side

I was at the game. Our front 7 got destroyed.

Tell me you don't understand football, without telling me you don't understand football.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Rams did not run at will. 70 yards at 2.4 a pop lol. The D did more than enough to win that game

Tell me you didn't watch the game, without telling me that you didn't watch the game.

Was about to say the same thing about you 🤣
probably too focused watching Lance throw "wobblers" on the side

I was at the game. Our front 7 got destroyed.

Tell me you don't understand football, without telling me you don't understand football.

Exactly. Our front 7 gave up like 2.4 ypc on the ground and had 10 pressures with 2 sacks. Whenever the rams dropped back to throw anything past 10 yards, Stafford was under a lot of pressure. It was their quick, underneath passing game that ultimately did us in on defense.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Rams did not run at will. 70 yards at 2.4 a pop lol. The D did more than enough to win that game

Tell me you didn't watch the game, without telling me that you didn't watch the game.

Was about to say the same thing about you 🤣
probably too focused watching Lance throw "wobblers" on the side

I was at the game. Our front 7 got destroyed.

Tell me you don't understand football, without telling me you don't understand football.

Exactly. Our front 7 gave up like 2.4 ypc on the ground and had 10 pressures with 2 sacks. Whenever the rams dropped back to throw anything past 10 yards, Stafford was under a lot of pressure. It was their quick, underneath passing game that ultimately did us in on defense.

Defense wasnt problem against the Rams at all till the dropped int

OL was our biggest problem by far.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Rams did not run at will. 70 yards at 2.4 a pop lol. The D did more than enough to win that game

Tell me you didn't watch the game, without telling me that you didn't watch the game.

Was about to say the same thing about you 🤣
probably too focused watching Lance throw "wobblers" on the side

I was at the game. Our front 7 got destroyed.

Tell me you don't understand football, without telling me you don't understand football.

Exactly. Our front 7 gave up like 2.4 ypc on the ground and had 10 pressures with 2 sacks. Whenever the rams dropped back to throw anything past 10 yards, Stafford was under a lot of pressure. It was their quick, underneath passing game that ultimately did us in on defense.

Defense wasnt problem against the Rams at all till the dropped int

OL was our biggest problem by far.

The O line was an issue for sure. Shanahan recognized that pass pro was not holding up late in the game and called some pressure beaters and Jimmy failed to execute those properly as well. There is definitely plenty of blame to go around for that loss.

Is he playing on Friday

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Bosa was definitely implying that the former QB did not limit mistakes. But whatever, agree to disagree. This is the Trey thread, no reason to bring the Kyle Williams of QBs into this discussion. That's the past now. Trey just needs to limit his mistakes and avoid them in crucial moments and the talent on this team is good enough to win a Super Bowl.

lol he was just saying that as a young QB starting for the first time, limiting mistakes is the key to managing the team to success. We know the D will carry the team, so as long as Lance is smart with the ball teams are going to have a hard time beating us.

Originally posted by ritz126:
Defense wasnt problem against the Rams at all till the dropped int

OL was our biggest problem by far.

Defense was absolutely an issue it just wasn't the front 7.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Is he playing on Friday

Would say at least a series or 2

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Rams did not run at will. 70 yards at 2.4 a pop lol. The D did more than enough to win that game

Tell me you didn't watch the game, without telling me that you didn't watch the game.

Was about to say the same thing about you 🤣
probably too focused watching Lance throw "wobblers" on the side

I was at the game. Our front 7 got destroyed.

Tell me you don't understand football, without telling me you don't understand football.

Exactly. Our front 7 gave up like 2.4 ypc on the ground and had 10 pressures with 2 sacks. Whenever the rams dropped back to throw anything past 10 yards, Stafford was under a lot of pressure. It was their quick, underneath passing game that ultimately did us in on defense.

Defense wasnt problem against the Rams at all till the dropped int

OL was our biggest problem by far.

Agreed 100% with the bolded. I'm not blaming the defense for the loss. Football is a team game and both sides of the ball plus special teams all play off each other. Momentum on one side helps the other, and vice versa. The offense picking up more 3rd down conversions certainly would have helped the defense. But to say the defense played well simply because they "only gave up 20 points" is absurd. The Rams were more physical and ran when they needed to (YPC doesn't tell the story). The quick passing definitely killed us too, McVay figured something out and we couldn't adjust.

Bottom line - thinking that Trey rather than Jimmy would have made the difference is a really elementary take. Same if people think that one change alone is going to put us over the top. Trey at the helm is going to be a much different offense and let's all hope that it equates to more production (not just points lol).

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Rams did not run at will. 70 yards at 2.4 a pop lol. The D did more than enough to win that game

Tell me you didn't watch the game, without telling me that you didn't watch the game.

Was about to say the same thing about you 🤣
probably too focused watching Lance throw "wobblers" on the side

I was at the game. Our front 7 got destroyed.

Tell me you don't understand football, without telling me you don't understand football.

Exactly. Our front 7 gave up like 2.4 ypc on the ground and had 10 pressures with 2 sacks. Whenever the rams dropped back to throw anything past 10 yards, Stafford was under a lot of pressure. It was their quick, underneath passing game that ultimately did us in on defense.

Defense wasnt problem against the Rams at all till the dropped int

OL was our biggest problem by far.

The O line was an issue for sure. Shanahan recognized that pass pro was not holding up late in the game and called some pressure beaters and Jimmy failed to execute those properly as well. There is definitely plenty of blame to go around for that loss.

our "gunslinger" couldn't get his gun out of the holdster

Question, if Trey turns out to be a bust does it spell the end of Kyle and/or Lynch?