Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Preview of Lance this week vs Packers

Dude could just fly once he hit the burners.

Kap was living proof that 40 times mean nothing. 4.53 my ass

40 times dont tell you long distance speed

Kap ran 60ish yards on that one (own 40 yard yard line is where he straightened out)

The run v SD was 90ish yards and he was insane on that too

https://youtu.be/7yh2vpBchfw

Kap had a long stride but once he hit full speed he was gone

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Kittle on Trey:

"I think he's got a ton of ability, and ... what we do with some of the run game stuff, we can get in the empty [backfield], and we can run gap scheme power with him running the football, which you don't really see a lot of teams do," Kittle shared. "Hey, you know what's crazy? If you have Trent Williams, George Kittle, and Mike McGlinchey running gap scheme power, hey, good luck, especially if you're going against a nickel or a dime defense. Hey, good luck getting blocked, man. Hey, have fun.

"There's just a lot of things we can do with it. He's also got a canon. He can throw deep balls. And honestly, like I said, he's just gotten better, progressively. And we have what? Twenty days of camp left where we've got a couple of preseason games, and we have a nice 16-day block right there after the third preseason game where we can really refine some stuff and see what we want to do with our offense, and I'm really looking forward to that."

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
"RG3 was such a different runner," Williams said after admitting that he doesn't see many similarities between what the 49ers are doing with Lance and what Shanahan did with Griffin in Washington. "It's such a different style. He had track speed. All the plays were designed to get him on the edge. We never ran a quarterback power or a quarterback sweep with RG. It was all about getting him on the edge, getting him to threaten people with his feet, with his speed, and then hitting the play-actions off of that.

"I think Trey is much further along as a pocket quarterback. As a runner, he doesn't have the track speed RG had, but he has the size, so we can send him up the middle on power, QB power, or like we've seen in Green Bay, the QB sweep. We never did that with Robert. We can do that with Trey. It's just a different skill set with running the ball that, as far as a quarterback, I think he gives us an ability to do more because he's a willing pocket passer.

"We've got outstanding receivers, and if the quarterback can't get them the ball, they're kind of obsolete. I think that's what he does, and that's what's going to give us a chance. And I think that's why Kyle and them [drafted] him, because of the things that he can do. It gives you the RG3-style offense and the Jimmy Garoppolo-style offense merged in one."

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/159851-trent-williams-trey-lance-gives-49ers-offenses-merged/

There are some seriously important pieces to this.

These pieces need to be added to this thread:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/196087-our-offense-different-lance/

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Preview of Lance this week vs Packers

Dude could just fly once he hit the burners.

Kap was living proof that 40 times mean nothing. 4.53 my ass

40 times dont tell you long distance speed

Kap ran 60ish yards on that one (own 40 yard yard line is where he straightened out)

The run v SD was 90ish yards and he was insane on that too

https://youtu.be/7yh2vpBchfw

Kap had a long stride but once he hit full speed he was gone

"he had the best practice a 49ers quarterback has had in years."

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
"he had the best practice a 49ers quarterback has had in years."

I doubt anyone can even remember a practice from more than a week ago.

"Mac had so much good stuff on tape, the way he played," Shanahan said. "And Trey, I loved what he put on tape. It was a year of football, so it wasn't totally enough, and especially the division. But the more you dive into it, the more I got to know the guy, the more I got to find out some stuff about him, the more I believed in what I didn't see and what I believe we will see."

Sums it up pretty well.

So all the guys saying it was laughable the niners were even considering Mac at 3

You know who you are

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So all the guys saying it was laughable the niners were even considering Mac at 3

You know who you are

No where does it say they were considering Mac lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So all the guys saying it was laughable the niners were even considering Mac at 3

You know who you are

No where does it say they were considering Mac lol

Those were the two guys that we were locked in on from the beginning, and if we never moved up to [No. 3], we would have never had the chance to learn more about Trey

Pretty f**king sure that means the move was for Jones

Also

Shanahan added that he can't pinpoint when the decision shifted to Lance, but the coach obviously got to the point where he felt good about picking him over Jones.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

"Mac had so much good stuff on tape, the way he played," Shanahan said. "And Trey, I loved what he put on tape. It was a year of football, so it wasn't totally enough, and especially the division. But the more you dive into it, the more I got to know the guy, the more I got to find out some stuff about him, the more I believed in what I didn't see and what I believe we will see."

Sums it up pretty well.

Food for thought for the tools who say Shanahan doesn't learn from his mistakes. He knows he blew it on Mahomes so when the time came to pick between Lance or Jones he went against his historical preference and went for the high ceiling guy. As a fan of this team, I applaud the effort and was happy to see the pick be Lance rather than Jones.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So all the guys saying it was laughable the niners were even considering Mac at 3

You know who you are

No where does it say they were considering Mac lol

Shanahan was asked to name the second quarterback.

"Mac," the 49ers coach responded. "Yeah, Mac Jones and Trey. Those were the two guys that we were locked in on from the beginning, and if we never moved up to [No. 3], we would have never had the chance to learn more about Trey. That was the hardest thing. You've got to be so sneaky and stuff when you're back there because you don't want people hopping in front of you, and I had a very strong feeling people were going to hop in front of us.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So all the guys saying it was laughable the niners were even considering Mac at 3

You know who you are

No where does it say they were considering Mac lol

Shanahan was asked to name the second quarterback.

"Mac," the 49ers coach responded. "Yeah, Mac Jones and Trey. Those were the two guys that we were locked in on from the beginning, and if we never moved up to [No. 3], we would have never had the chance to learn more about Trey. That was the hardest thing. You've got to be so sneaky and stuff when you're back there because you don't want people hopping in front of you, and I had a very strong feeling people were going to hop in front of us.

Shanahan could say "yeah we were considering Mac at 3."

Fans in denial "no he wasn't"

Coincidentally, Mac Jones is also struggling in training camp against his defense that was ranked #2 last year. Make of it what you will.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/08/08/patriots-training-camp-day-13-mac-jones-starting-offense-bomb-again-in-worst-practice-yet/amp/

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So all the guys saying it was laughable the niners were even considering Mac at 3

You know who you are

No where does it say they were considering Mac lol

Shanahan was asked to name the second quarterback.

"Mac," the 49ers coach responded. "Yeah, Mac Jones and Trey. Those were the two guys that we were locked in on from the beginning, and if we never moved up to [No. 3], we would have never had the chance to learn more about Trey. That was the hardest thing. You've got to be so sneaky and stuff when you're back there because you don't want people hopping in front of you, and I had a very strong feeling people were going to hop in front of us.

Shanahan could say "yeah we were considering Mac at 3."

Fans in denial "no he wasn't"

They were considering Mac at 3. They didn't trade up for Mac. Would they have taken Mac at 3 if the evaluation of Trey didn't sway them? Yes, but they traded up to give themselves time to really dig into these guys without worrying about someone leap frogging them and leaving them with their second (or third) choice. Some will criticize giving up 2 first round picks for that certainty, but to me it seems like a small price to ensure you get the guy you believe in the most for the most important position.

Anyways, it's pointless to rehash. I liked the quote for what it said about Kyle's thought process and about what Kyle saw in Trey. I don't think they've regretted their choice for a second.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Those were the two guys that we were locked in on from the beginning, and if we never moved up to [No. 3], we would have never had the chance to learn more about Trey

Pretty f**king sure that means the move was for Jones

Also

Shanahan added that he can't pinpoint when the decision shifted to Lance, but the coach obviously got to the point where he felt good about picking him over Jones.

Being he went 15 that would've been the biggest reach of all time considering the compensation given up.