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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Why are you making the assumption that there is an anti Trey crowd. While people questioned his readiness to start last year based on his limited experience I don't think there has been a lot of sentiment out there to suggest people don't want him to succeed, outside of that one guy who was all in on the team picking Mac Jones. Why also would you make the assumption that people who supported Jimmy's continued tenure as the starting QB last year now make up the core of an "anti Trey" component? Again, I have seen very few posters in here actively rooting for Lance to fail but rather are just taking a wait an see attitude.

What I have seen is the opposite though where people constantly rip on Jimmy as if that is their sole reason for existing. Jimmy always gave his best and when he was healthy enough to get through most of the season helped get the team to two NFC Championship games. I have never understood the hate that he inspires among some posters in here for all of the contributions he made to the team. All I can figure is that, at its core, it's all about this sort of phony sense of entitlement that some 'fans" have abut this team. "Oh, well we had Joe and Steve, so we DESERVE and want only HOF QB's on our roster nothing else will do". Oh, please, get over it.

Like many people I was proud of the team's unbeaten Super Bowl record and that loss to Baltimore is one of the many reasons I have always been down on the Harbaugh/Kaepernick experience. That was a winnable game and they failed to get it done. But that ship has sailed. There is no way for the team to go back to being unbeaten so now, like every other team in the league, they are out there competing to get back to the big game and get another trophy. People seem to forget that Joe wasn't always able to get the team over the hump and that Steve lost two straight NFC Championship games to the Cowboys, in large part because of his own mistakes. If social media had been a thing back then I don't have the slightest doubt that he would have gotten completely excoriated for those losses and that "fans" would have been calling for his head. But now he is a generally admired part of a storied past. But Jimmy misses a throw that could have made a difference amidst the team's utter defensive collapse in the last 10 minutes of the game and it becomes an unforgivable sin for some. Whatever, The team decided it was time to try something new and hopefully Trey will give everyone plenty of reasons to get behind him. Go Niners!

(Abbout Jimmy) "I dont understand the hate he inspires."

"I have always been down on the Harbaugh/Kaepernick experience. That was a winnable game and they failed to get it done."

Talking out of both sides of your mouth here. SMH.

What a contradiction! Kap at least played well in the 2012 playoffs and, with our defense injured, we wouldn't have even made the Super Bowl without him stepping up.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Everyone laughing at Chris Simms, Adam schefter and others

They were right the whole time.

they literally weren't. kyle said from the get go he was interested in all the qbs and didn't want a team to leapfrog them. if anyone thinks he was all in on trey or mac or fields, then you just chose not to believe kyle.

Exactly lol.

Kyle has been completely honest about the process, but people keep wanting to see something that isn't there. If Kyle wanted Mac, we'd have drafted Mac. Thank god that he decided to draft Trey.

In this situation you're literally thanking Kyle.
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Everyone laughing at Chris Simms, Adam schefter and others

They were right the whole time.

they literally weren't. kyle said from the get go he was interested in all the qbs and didn't want a team to leapfrog them. if anyone thinks he was all in on trey or mac or fields, then you just chose not to believe kyle.

Exactly lol.

Kyle has been completely honest about the process, but people keep wanting to see something that isn't there. If Kyle wanted Mac, we'd have drafted Mac. Thank god that he decided to draft Trey.

In this situation you're literally thanking Kyle.

Originally posted by TownNiner:
Bloody Nora we need some real football.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You can be pro JG last year and pro TL this year it's not an either/or.. it's called being a fan of the players on the club which is what a fan is..

%100.
You can be pro Jimmy and Trey. Trey is pro Jimmy, and Jimmy is pro Trey. It is entirely possible to appreciate the work Jimmy put in for the team, and be glad to have Trey starting now. You don't have to tear either one down to prop up the other.
Originally posted by raywm3:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
We drafted the right guy In the end ( hopefully )

There's a reason half his staff and 90% of the media thought it was Mac. But to your point, it's moot now. Kyle would have had success with either.

If Kyle can get Trey to high efficiency levels while maintaining the added athletic abilities on top of that, the sky's the limit.

Best of both worlds.

If anything, the NFL has taught us you can win Superbowls with both skill sets as long as you're playing at a very high level and you've got the team around you to maximize that skill set.

Something I've wondered for a while now, is will it eat away at Kyle if Mac succeeds and Trey fails? If he knew it in his heart and didn't follow his instincts due to public outcry. If he ends up losing his job because of it. All hypotheticals but I just bet he thinks it.

If so he'll be regretting it but as an OC if Trey doesn't work out.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You can be pro JG last year and pro TL this year it's not an either/or.. it's called being a fan of the players on the club which is what a fan is..

%100.
You can be pro Jimmy and Trey. Trey is pro Jimmy, and Jimmy is pro Trey. It is entirely possible to appreciate the work Jimmy put in for the team, and be glad to have Trey starting now. You don't have to tear either one down to prop up the other.

Exactly. No idea why some purportedly like to lounge on one side of the fence. Maybe peeps are just too prideful and are arguing for argument's sake or just love to troll?

FTR I loved having Jimmy as our QB1. 2019 was a magical year. It's unfortunate he was injury prone and never turned the corner as a top flight NFL QB.

He very well may win another SB before his career is done (albeit most likely riding someone's bench) but Im putting all my cards on the table now for Trey. What choice do we have? It is Trey Time! His physical gifts are amazing and will pay dividends for a long time but what really has me excited is his attitude, his mindset, work ethic, will to win, and love of the game.

Boom or Bust??

Im playing the Boom babiee!
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You can be pro JG last year and pro TL this year it's not an either/or.. it's called being a fan of the players on the club which is what a fan is..

%100.
You can be pro Jimmy and Trey. Trey is pro Jimmy, and Jimmy is pro Trey. It is entirely possible to appreciate the work Jimmy put in for the team, and be glad to have Trey starting now. You don't have to tear either one down to prop up the other.

Yup, and sadly I feel like the norm is you hate one or the other. Its so weird. I love what Jimmy did for us but him always being injured kinda f**ked us over. I love Lance's skill set and leadership qualities but he will need time and patience to fully develop.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
We both liked Fields, but most agreed you don't trade that much for a prospect like Mac. I take Kyle at his word here. If Lance and Fields were total duds i his view he was OK with taking Mac at 3, but he had his eye on Lance from the get go.

Yes he rightfully would have taken Mac at three if after the trade he was the guy

I would have had a cow but if Mac balled I would have been happy
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Everyone laughing at Chris Simms, Adam schefter and others

They were right the whole time.

they literally weren't. kyle said from the get go he was interested in all the qbs and didn't want a team to leapfrog them. if anyone thinks he was all in on trey or mac or fields, then you just chose not to believe kyle.

Exactly lol.

Kyle has been completely honest about the process, but people keep wanting to see something that isn't there. If Kyle wanted Mac, we'd have drafted Mac. Thank god that he decided to draft Trey.

In this situation you're literally thanking Kyle.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Everyone laughing at Chris Simms, Adam schefter and others

They were right the whole time.

They were not right. If they were right, Kyle would have drafted Mac Jones. They said Kyle was drafting Mac. That was their prediction and stated it like it was a fact and just days before the draft this is still who they said Kyle was drafting. Kyle had likely made up his mind long before then. I would say atleast 2 weeks prior to the draft Kyle had made up his mind or was atleast leaning in that direction.

No, shefter reported that they shifted. Simms was right as well that they had an interst in mac. The only guys who were 100% wrong were the guys who said Kyle never had an interest in. Mac.

All I know is Lance will.forever be tied to accept after this statement by Kyle. And why is he saying this NOW? As opposed to this after the draft

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2021/04/29/kyle-shanahan-49ers-nfl-draft-mac-jones-rumors/
[ Edited by JoseCortez on Aug 10, 2022 at 1:09 PM ]
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Everyone laughing at Chris Simms, Adam schefter and others

They were right the whole time.

They were not right. If they were right, Kyle would have drafted Mac Jones. They said Kyle was drafting Mac. That was their prediction and stated it like it was a fact and just days before the draft this is still who they said Kyle was drafting. Kyle had likely made up his mind long before then. I would say atleast 2 weeks prior to the draft Kyle had made up his mind or was atleast leaning in that direction.

No, shefter reported that they shifted. Simms was right as well that theybhad an interst in mac. The only guys who were 100% wrong were the guys who said Kyle never had an interest in. Mac.

Honestly who cares? Trey was Shannys choice at the end of the day. Move on.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
No, shefter reported that they shifted. Simms was right as well that theybhad an interst in mac. The only guys who were 100% wrong were the guys who said Kyle never had an interest in. Mac.

Who gives a f**k? They didn't draft Jones and that's that. Currently he's struggling in NE during TC like a ton of young QBs.

Why we all have to try and act like it matters now is beyond me. Kyle said when the trade happened they were confrontable with 3 of the QBs at the top clearly 2 were Lance and Mac not sure who the 3rd one really was. Some people believed Mac was a QB that while had the tools to come in and play right away, doesn't have the upside to become an elite talent at the position. So yeah some people felt burning 3 1sts on that wasn't the route they would go. Turns out that was right, because he's not in SF.
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Honestly who cares? Trey was Shannys choice at the end of the day. Move on.

He's so invested in Shanahan failing that he has to dwell on anything that might make him look bad.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Honestly who cares? Trey was Shannys choice at the end of the day. Move on.

He's so invested in Shanahan failing that he has to dwell on anything that might make him look bad.

It's hilarious I remember one of the most frequent points for Mac from all the Mac guys was trust in Shanahan lol but because Shanny chose Mac they now say stupid crap like Fan pressure made Shanny chose trey or Lynch forced Shanny to go with trey
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