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  • Furlow
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Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
He's also innaccurate at times and tends to miss at least one open running back in the flat per day -- today he airmailed Sermon once. That's why the 49ers will call lots of runs for Lance this season. Today, they called four quarterback runs for him. He also scrambled a couple times. Don't be surprised when Kyle Shanahan calls runs on 3rd down to set up 4th and short. He did it today.
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I know I'm in the minority but I hate all the designed runs. Even with the argument that "he can also get hurt in the pocket", you are only putting more chances out that he gets concussed or pulls something. I understand that we drafted him to use his mobility but I think running him just to run him is asking for trouble. Don't get me wrong obviously there are plenty of times his running will get us big plays and possibly open things up but all it takes is one wrong move then these SB caliber team is stick going with Sudfeld who I have zero confidence in..

I'm with you 100%. The people saying "he can also get hurt in the pocket" are like people who justify the risks of skydiving or bungie jumping by saying "you can die driving your car or walking across the street." Lol
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
We both liked Fields, but most agreed you don't trade that much for a prospect like Mac. I take Kyle at his word here. If Lance and Fields were total duds i his view he was OK with taking Mac at 3, but he had his eye on Lance from the get go.

This is what I'm thinking and especially since we Lance
Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm with you 100%. The people saying "he can also get hurt in the pocket" are like people who justify the risks of skydiving or bungie jumping by saying "you can die driving your car or walking across the street." Lol

Except his major injury last year DID come in the pocket...
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm with you 100%. The people saying "he can also get hurt in the pocket" are like people who justify the risks of skydiving or bungie jumping by saying "you can die driving your car or walking across the street." Lol

Except his major injury last year DID come in the pocket...

The injury that kept him out of games came outside the pocket…
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
He's also innaccurate at times and tends to miss at least one open running back in the flat per day -- today he airmailed Sermon once. That's why the 49ers will call lots of runs for Lance this season. Today, they called four quarterback runs for him. He also scrambled a couple times. Don't be surprised when Kyle Shanahan calls runs on 3rd down to set up 4th and short. He did it today.
***Warning Cohn article***

https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/the-good-and-not-so-good-from-day-12-of-49ers-training-camp-the-trey-lance-rollercoaster-continues
I know I'm in the minority but I hate all the designed runs. Even with the argument that "he can also get hurt in the pocket", you are only putting more chances out that he gets concussed or pulls something. I understand that we drafted him to use his mobility but I think running him just to run him is asking for trouble. Don't get me wrong obviously there are plenty of times his running will get us big plays and possibly open things up but all it takes is one wrong move then these SB caliber team is stick going with Sudfeld who I have zero confidence in..

I'm with you 100%. The people saying "he can also get hurt in the pocket" are like people who justify the risks of skydiving or bungie jumping by saying "you can die driving your car or walking across the street." Lol

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Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm with you 100%. The people saying "he can also get hurt in the pocket" are like people who justify the risks of skydiving or bungie jumping by saying "you can die driving your car or walking across the street." Lol

Not sure what the post you replied to said, but there is zero evidence to support the opinion that QBs who run get injured more than QBs who don't.

There is no justifying anything.
Both Lombardi and Barrows say he misses a lot high and outside. I guess we still don't have a QB who can throw outside. Bummer.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Both Lombardi and Barrows say he misses a lot high and outside. I guess we still don't have a QB who can throw outside. Bummer.

You miss 100% of the throws you don't take.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Both Lombardi and Barrows say he misses a lot high and outside. I guess we still don't have a QB who can throw outside. Bummer.

Those are tough throws that most QBs don't make consistently. But if the threat is there, it opens up the field a bit more. That's already a plus he's bringing in.

Also, we've seen him make a couple of those throws last year in games.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Both Lombardi and Barrows say he misses a lot high and outside. I guess we still don't have a QB who can throw outside. Bummer.

Sounds like he's having trouble with the short stuff as well.
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
He's also innaccurate at times and tends to miss at least one open running back in the flat per day -- today he airmailed Sermon once. That's why the 49ers will call lots of runs for Lance this season. Today, they called four quarterback runs for him. He also scrambled a couple times. Don't be surprised when Kyle Shanahan calls runs on 3rd down to set up 4th and short. He did it today.
***Warning Cohn article***

https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/the-good-and-not-so-good-from-day-12-of-49ers-training-camp-the-trey-lance-rollercoaster-continues
I know I'm in the minority but I hate all the designed runs. Even with the argument that "he can also get hurt in the pocket", you are only putting more chances out that he gets concussed or pulls something. I understand that we drafted him to use his mobility but I think running him just to run him is asking for trouble. Don't get me wrong obviously there are plenty of times his running will get us big plays and possibly open things up but all it takes is one wrong move then these SB caliber team is stick going with Sudfeld who I have zero confidence in..

I'm with you 100%. The people saying "he can also get hurt in the pocket" are like people who justify the risks of skydiving or bungie jumping by saying "you can die driving your car or walking across the street." Lol

+2

+3
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Sounds like the anti Trey aka Jimmy crowd are showing the next wave of their attack by being the should have been Mac! crowd lol

LOL you saw right through my comment didn't ya.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Why are you making the assumption that there is an anti Trey crowd. While people questioned his readiness to start last year based on his limited experience I don't think there has been a lot of sentiment out there to suggest people don't want him to succeed, outside of that one guy who was all in on the team picking Mac Jones. Why also would you make the assumption that people who supported Jimmy's continued tenure as the starting QB last year now make up the core of an "anti Trey" component? Again, I have seen very few posters in here actively rooting for Lance to fail but rather are just taking a wait an see attitude.

What I have seen is the opposite though where people constantly rip on Jimmy as if that is their sole reason for existing. Jimmy always gave his best and when he was healthy enough to get through most of the season helped get the team to two NFC Championship games. I have never understood the hate that he inspires among some posters in here for all of the contributions he made to the team. All I can figure is that, at its core, it's all about this sort of phony sense of entitlement that some 'fans" have abut this team. "Oh, well we had Joe and Steve, so we DESERVE and want only HOF QB's on our roster nothing else will do". Oh, please, get over it.

Like many people I was proud of the team's unbeaten Super Bowl record and that loss to Baltimore is one of the many reasons I have always been down on the Harbaugh/Kaepernick experience. That was a winnable game and they failed to get it done. But that ship has sailed. There is no way for the team to go back to being unbeaten so now, like every other team in the league, they are out there competing to get back to the big game and get another trophy. People seem to forget that Joe wasn't always able to get the team over the hump and that Steve lost two straight NFC Championship games to the Cowboys, in large part because of his own mistakes. If social media had been a thing back then I don't have the slightest doubt that he would have gotten completely excoriated for those losses and that "fans" would have been calling for his head. But now he is a generally admired part of a storied past. But Jimmy misses a throw that could have made a difference amidst the team's utter defensive collapse in the last 10 minutes of the game and it becomes an unforgivable sin for some. Whatever, The team decided it was time to try something new and hopefully Trey will give everyone plenty of reasons to get behind him. Go Niners!
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
(Abbout Jimmy) "I dont understand the hate he inspires."

"I have always been down on the Harbaugh/Kaepernick experience. That was a winnable game and they failed to get it done."

Talking out of both sides of your mouth here. SMH.

Bro thank you. I read that post and took an aspirin. He cemented my comment as fact

Oh, please. Get over yourself. If that's what you took away from that post then I'm not sure what there is left to say.

Yup it was a great post 81 you said nothing wrong..

He said nothing wrong? He literally contradicted himself really badly. Doesnt understand the hate for Jimmy (who failed to get it done in a winnable Superbowl and a winnable NFCCG), but hates Kaepernick/Harbaugh because they failed to get it done in a winnable Superbowl?

Laughable logic, 49erFaithful6, laughable.

What's really stupid is people who try to blame one person for a team effort loss.
Originally posted by Koldo:
The Shanahan cult now has the perfect excuse if Trey goes bust:

"Mac was always his first choice; he was forced by Lynch / Jed / Paraag to draft Lance."

There's a Shanahan cult? You starting an anti Shanahan cult to oppose it?
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Koldo:
The Shanahan cult now has the perfect excuse if Trey goes bust:

"Mac was always his first choice; he was forced by Lynch / Jed / Paraag to draft Lance."

There's a Shanahan cult? You starting an anti Shanahan cult to oppose it?

He's out there man lol
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