Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Same with Mike Vick, Lamar Jackson, two ankle injuries and one knee injury. FWIW Jimmy Garropolo injured his ACL…..umm running. Daunte Culpepper, three knee injuries. Randall Cunningham, ACL. All other running QB's aren't really worth mentioning like for instance Eric Crouch.

So should we start listing all the times pocket QBs have been injured?

We literally seen one of our own HOF QBs career ended while standing in the pocket.

Football players get hurt. It's part of the game.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Regardless, running QB's suck ass in the NFL, especially if they struggle at passing like Lamar Jackson and Kaepernick. They're good for highlights but that's about it.

Are you implying Trey is a running QB? There's a huge difference between a running QB and a mobile QB. Right now, outside of Brady, the best QBs are mobile. Trey is mobile. He's not a running QB.

Originally posted by raywm3:
I'm okay with some growing pains. Not so much with HUGE growing pains. We have a SB caliber roster and a 4th string qb that is capable of getting them there. The idea of drafting him was to upgrade the position. I just worry about his inaccuracy. It's like he just throws and hopes.

We describing Trey or Jimmy? Jimmy literally has been on record saying he threw a pass out and couldn't even see the receiver. Luckily that ended up as a TD. We've seen Jimmy throw passes out there that match up exactly with what you described. So what's the difference now?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If he made better decisions on whether to hand it off or keep it, it wouldn't have been ugly like it was.

I don't think he could survive 17 games of that. In fact he didn't survive the one.. wasn't he inactive after this game? I pray for smarter usage.. like in the HOU game.

The following week was a bye week and Jimmy came back the week after that.

Trey's biggest issue was the speed of the game. I agree, Kyle shouldn't have had him running those RO plays in the AZ game. From my understanding, he never ran those types of plays in college. From what I have read is that they have been practicing them in TC this year. The hope is for him to become better at making the correct read and essentially protecting himself. If fans are really that scared of Trey being a part of the running game, I would tell them to not even turn the television on this season.

To follow up on this.. it was a bye then Colts and TL was inactive for Colts. Sudfeld was our #2 that game. One QB run heavy game.. and it had him out a couple weeks..

And ppl say run all day TL there is no evidence it's a prob for running qbs

Sure he can run.. but be smart and most of all avoid contact..

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He's essentially a rookie are people seriously expecting him to be at a pro bowl level? I'm expecting huge growing pains. A lot of errant passes and bad decisions but at the same time a lot of mesmerizing throws and plays. At years end we will see a much improved QB.

I'm okay with some growing pains. Not so much with HUGE growing pains. We have a SB caliber roster and a 4th string qb that is capable of getting them there. The idea of drafting him was to upgrade the position. I just worry about his inaccuracy. It's like he just throws and hopes.

This is one of the most ridiculous takes I have read on here. Trey made some pretty clutch throws in tight coverage last season. His biggest issue was not trusting what he saw, holding the ball too long and then gunning it in there to try to make up for it. This caused the ball to sail on him sometimes. I have a suspicion that once Trey really trusts what he sees, these so called "accuracy issues" will go away.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He's essentially a rookie are people seriously expecting him to be at a pro bowl level? I'm expecting huge growing pains. A lot of errant passes and bad decisions but at the same time a lot of mesmerizing throws and plays. At years end we will see a much improved QB.

I'm okay with some growing pains. Not so much with HUGE growing pains. We have a SB caliber roster and a 4th string qb that is capable of getting them there. The idea of drafting him was to upgrade the position. I just worry about his inaccuracy. It's like he just throws and hopes.

This is one of the most ridiculous takes I have read on here. Trey made some pretty clutch throws in tight coverage last season. His biggest issue was not trusting what he saw, holding the ball too long and then gunning it in there to try to make up for it. This caused the ball to sail on him sometimes. I have a suspicion that once Trey really trusts what he sees, these so called "accuracy issues" will go away.

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He's essentially a rookie are people seriously expecting him to be at a pro bowl level? I'm expecting huge growing pains. A lot of errant passes and bad decisions but at the same time a lot of mesmerizing throws and plays. At years end we will see a much improved QB.

I'm okay with some growing pains. Not so much with HUGE growing pains. We have a SB caliber roster and a 4th string qb that is capable of getting them there. The idea of drafting him was to upgrade the position. I just worry about his inaccuracy. It's like he just throws and hopes.

This is one of the most ridiculous takes I have read on here. Trey made some pretty clutch throws in tight coverage last season. His biggest issue was not trusting what he saw, holding the ball too long and then gunning it in there to try to make up for it. This caused the ball to sail on him sometimes. I have a suspicion that once Trey really trusts what he sees, these so called "accuracy issues" will go away.

I'm curious as to where all of those "clutch" throws you are referring to were, maybe it was a dream idk. And if by your example the ball is sailing on him sometimes, that kind of makes my point.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He's essentially a rookie are people seriously expecting him to be at a pro bowl level? I'm expecting huge growing pains. A lot of errant passes and bad decisions but at the same time a lot of mesmerizing throws and plays. At years end we will see a much improved QB.

I'm okay with some growing pains. Not so much with HUGE growing pains. We have a SB caliber roster and a 4th string qb that is capable of getting them there. The idea of drafting him was to upgrade the position. I just worry about his inaccuracy. It's like he just throws and hopes.

This is one of the most ridiculous takes I have read on here. Trey made some pretty clutch throws in tight coverage last season. His biggest issue was not trusting what he saw, holding the ball too long and then gunning it in there to try to make up for it. This caused the ball to sail on him sometimes. I have a suspicion that once Trey really trusts what he sees, these so called "accuracy issues" will go away.

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Originally posted by thl408:
As it pertains to Lance, he does need to protect himself better and understand what is a 'gotta have it' down. He tried to take on a safety on a 3rd & 2 in the first quarter (HOU). He tried to take on a LB at the goal line in the second quarter (ARI). I don't mind him running if he gets down early, but if he doesn't, then he either needs to learn how to, or Kyle needs to protect Lance from himself and not call as many plays where Lance has the option to keep.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Have a season, Trey.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Better play by pass rush and coverage would've won us the KC sb as well.

Originally posted by thl408:
As it pertains to Lance, he does need to protect himself better and understand what is a 'gotta have it' down. He tried to take on a safety on a 3rd & 2 in the first quarter (HOU). He tried to take on a LB at the goal line in the second quarter (ARI). I don't mind him running if he gets down early, but if he doesn't, then he either needs to learn how to, or Kyle needs to protect Lance from himself and not call as many plays where Lance has the option to keep.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:
As it pertains to Lance, he does need to protect himself better and understand what is a 'gotta have it' down. He tried to take on a safety on a 3rd & 2 in the first quarter (HOU). He tried to take on a LB at the goal line in the second quarter (ARI). I don't mind him running if he gets down early, but if he doesn't, then he either needs to learn how to, or Kyle needs to protect Lance from himself and not call as many plays where Lance has the option to keep.

To be fair, the Houston game was effectively a playoff game for us. Lance needed to save our season and he was going to do whatever it took to do that.

I agree about the Cardinals game, but it was his first start and only second football game in 2 years.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
It has nothing to do with Jimmy. It has everything to do with running qbs and your belief that Lamar would have won the superbowl.

Who won the superbowl, your hero kaep? Or statue pocket passer Joe flacco?

Who were the final four qbs last year? Burrow, Stafford, Jimmy amd mahommes. All pocket passers.

The only running qb I could see winning a superbowl anytime soon is josh allen. And that's ONLY because he developed from the pocket.

Our roster and the Rams were probably the best in the NFL, so there's no surprise they were one of the top teams. Mahomes and Burrow are pretty damn mobile if you haven't noticed lol.

And Kap actually beat Flacco 29-27 if you wanna narrow it down like that. It's not Flacco > Kap that won them the SB.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Better play by pass rush and coverage would've won us the KC sb as well.

Right but our highest paid player played like s**t. Decent QB play and we have at least one SB with Shanny