Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
the f**k is sequencing?

Biomechanics sequencing: Legs -> hips -> shoulders -> arm

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
the f**k is sequencing?

Biomechanics sequencing: Legs -> hips -> shoulders -> arm

Head > shoulders > knees > toes
knees and toes!

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
https://theathletic.com/3488441/2022/08/11/49ers-trey-lance-quarterback-throwing-analysis/

Athletic article from Ted Nguyen on Trey Lance's throwing motion and how it has changed since last season. Here's the conclusion for those that don't have a subscription:

In conclusion, the most important component of throwing is sequencing, and although there are things Lance could clean up in his overall motion, he still sequences well and can generate a ton of velocity. He does look like a more fluid passer in training camp, but we'll see if his mechanics can hold up as time to work on technique shrinks and the wear of the season starts to build. The great quarterbacks continue to refine their techniques throughout their entire careers. Reportedly, Lance is a tireless worker, so it's likely that he is far from his final form mechanically.

the f**k is sequencing?

This will be my new phrase.

He sequenced the bleep out of that one

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
https://theathletic.com/3488441/2022/08/11/49ers-trey-lance-quarterback-throwing-analysis/

Athletic article from Ted Nguyen on Trey Lance's throwing motion and how it has changed since last season. Here's the conclusion for those that don't have a subscription:

In conclusion, the most important component of throwing is sequencing, and although there are things Lance could clean up in his overall motion, he still sequences well and can generate a ton of velocity. He does look like a more fluid passer in training camp, but we'll see if his mechanics can hold up as time to work on technique shrinks and the wear of the season starts to build. The great quarterbacks continue to refine their techniques throughout their entire careers. Reportedly, Lance is a tireless worker, so it's likely that he is far from his final form mechanically.

the f**k is sequencing?

This will be my new phrase.

He sequenced the bleep out of that one

Well...technically you'd be correct.

Trey with Deebo in the backfield is going to be deadly. Last season we knew Deebo was getting the ball when he was lined up in the backfield and teams still had a hard time stopping him. Now teams have to guess if Deebo is getting the ball or if Trey will keep it himself. One of the reasons I am not worried about Trey in his 1st year as a starter is because I think this run game is going to be unstoppable.From our RB's to Deebo to Trey to our Olinemen who all seem to be very good run blockers to Kittle and Juice who are great blockers also. This team might average 40 runs a game. Trey just needs to not turn the ball over and make a few throws here and there. Let the entire run game and the defense do the rest.

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
They do have a pretty good defense tbh. Rashan Gary and Kenny Clark are studs and Jaire Alexander is a monster. Itll really depend on if devondre Campbell can recreate his performance from last year or the guy they drafted this year can be good.

No doubt, but not on par with ours. In my opinion. Definitely not better.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Trey with Deebo in the backfield is going to be deadly. Last season we knew Deebo was getting the ball when he was lined up in the backfield and teams still had a hard time stopping him. Now teams have to guess if Deebo is getting the ball or if Trey will keep it himself. One of the reasons I am not worried about Trey in his 1st year as a starter is because I think this run game is going to be unstoppable.From our RB's to Deebo to Trey to our Olinemen who all seem to be very good run blockers to Kittle and Juice who are great blockers also. This team might average 40 runs a game. Trey just needs to not turn the ball over and make a few throws here and there. Let the entire run game and the defense do the rest.

There's going to be a lot of horizontal misdirection in the run game. I hope that Anthony Lynn is able to bring out the creativity that may have left the building when Mike McDaniels left. Kyle spoke about how Chris Foerster was instrumental in getting the run game chugging when he and Kyle were in WAS.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
the f**k is sequencing?

Biomechanics sequencing: Legs -> hips -> shoulders -> arm

this s**t is so silly lol

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
https://theathletic.com/3488441/2022/08/11/49ers-trey-lance-quarterback-throwing-analysis/

Athletic article from Ted Nguyen on Trey Lance's throwing motion and how it has changed since last season. Here's the conclusion for those that don't have a subscription:

In conclusion, the most important component of throwing is sequencing, and although there are things Lance could clean up in his overall motion, he still sequences well and can generate a ton of velocity. He does look like a more fluid passer in training camp, but we'll see if his mechanics can hold up as time to work on technique shrinks and the wear of the season starts to build. The great quarterbacks continue to refine their techniques throughout their entire careers. Reportedly, Lance is a tireless worker, so it's likely that he is far from his final form mechanically.

the f**k is sequencing?

This will be my new phrase.

He sequenced the bleep out of that one

lol sequencing, processing etc etc

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
https://theathletic.com/3488441/2022/08/11/49ers-trey-lance-quarterback-throwing-analysis/

Athletic article from Ted Nguyen on Trey Lance's throwing motion and how it has changed since last season. Here's the conclusion for those that don't have a subscription:

In conclusion, the most important component of throwing is sequencing, and although there are things Lance could clean up in his overall motion, he still sequences well and can generate a ton of velocity. He does look like a more fluid passer in training camp, but we'll see if his mechanics can hold up as time to work on technique shrinks and the wear of the season starts to build. The great quarterbacks continue to refine their techniques throughout their entire careers. Reportedly, Lance is a tireless worker, so it's likely that he is far from his final form mechanically.

the f**k is sequencing?

From the article:

Sequencing refers to the order in which different parts of the body move during the throw. Proper sequencing allows the hips to open toward the target first, followed by the arm so that the quarterback is generating power with his body and not mainly through the arm.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
the f**k is sequencing?

Biomechanics sequencing: Legs -> hips -> shoulders -> arm

this s**t is so silly lol

Especially since sequencing makes the ball wobble apparently.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Lol they are football players. Explain why there is a difference in rates of career length. If it's related to running the ball and we are talking about a QB running the ball...

You can't be serious bro. Running Backs running the ball is substantially different than QBs doing it. You know this. Not just style, but frequency.

Exactly! There is a huge difference between a RB running the ball 15, 20, 30 times in a game and a QB running it 2-3 times in a game in order to keep the numbers advantage alive.

There is yes. This is why RBs burn out quicker than QBs. They run it more. The more you run.. the more you burn out. Which is my point.

And such a SIMPLE point it is. Like we need a study on whether running a football and getting tackled running full speed into another human being multiple times a game hinders a player's longevity.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Lol they are football players. Explain why there is a difference in rates of career length. If it's related to running the ball and we are talking about a QB running the ball...

You can't be serious bro. Running Backs running the ball is substantially different than QBs doing it. You know this. Not just style, but frequency.

Exactly! There is a huge difference between a RB running the ball 15, 20, 30 times in a game and a QB running it 2-3 times in a game in order to keep the numbers advantage alive.

There is yes. This is why RBs burn out quicker than QBs. They run it more. The more you run.. the more you burn out. Which is my point.

And such a SIMPLE point it is. Like we need a study on whether running a football and getting tackled running full speed into another human being multiple times a game hinders a player's longevity.

How often have you seen Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray "running a football and getting tackled running full speed into another human being multiple times a game"?

Being a statue in the pocket is so much safer than running a handful of yards before gently stepping out of bounds untouched.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Trey with Deebo in the backfield is going to be deadly. Last season we knew Deebo was getting the ball when he was lined up in the backfield and teams still had a hard time stopping him. Now teams have to guess if Deebo is getting the ball or if Trey will keep it himself. One of the reasons I am not worried about Trey in his 1st year as a starter is because I think this run game is going to be unstoppable.From our RB's to Deebo to Trey to our Olinemen who all seem to be very good run blockers to Kittle and Juice who are great blockers also. This team might average 40 runs a game. Trey just needs to not turn the ball over and make a few throws here and there. Let the entire run game and the defense do the rest.

There's going to be a lot of horizontal misdirection in the run game. I hope that Anthony Lynn is able to bring out the creativity that may have left the building when Mike McDaniels left. Kyle spoke about how Chris Foerster was instrumental in getting the run game chugging when he and Kyle were in WAS.

No pre-game thread for the preseason games?