Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
No pre-game thread for the preseason games?

I want to see the meltdowns in the gameday thread on preseason.. that's how you know a fan is committed

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
No pre-game thread for the preseason games?

I want to see the meltdowns in the gameday thread on preseason.. that's how you know a fan is committed

LMAO! Yeah buddy!

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Lol they are football players. Explain why there is a difference in rates of career length. If it's related to running the ball and we are talking about a QB running the ball...

You can't be serious bro. Running Backs running the ball is substantially different than QBs doing it. You know this. Not just style, but frequency.

Exactly! There is a huge difference between a RB running the ball 15, 20, 30 times in a game and a QB running it 2-3 times in a game in order to keep the numbers advantage alive.

There is yes. This is why RBs burn out quicker than QBs. They run it more. The more you run.. the more you burn out. Which is my point.

And such a SIMPLE point it is. Like we need a study on whether running a football and getting tackled running full speed into another human being multiple times a game hinders a player's longevity.

How often have you seen Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray "running a football and getting tackled running full speed into another human being multiple times a game"?

I wouldn't consider either of them "running QB's." None of us are knocking being mobile, scrambling, or making plays outside of the pocket. We're talking about designed runs by the QB, particularly on short yardage where the defenders are up in the box and hits are unavoidable. Trey had more of those in two games than Murray or Wilson did all season. Most of that is on Shanny of course, but the point is the same.

Using Murry as a benchmark, he had 88 rush attempts in 14 games last season, which is 6.3 per game. That's not bad but definitely more than I'd like to see. Incidentally, the three games he missed was due to an ankle injury he sustained while running the ball and being tackled by DB lol.

Russell Wilson only had 43 attempts in 14 games, which is 3 per game. That's about what I'd like to see. But I think we all know that Shanny is selfish and NEEDS to win with Trey, so if Trey struggles at all passing, Shanny will be dialing up many more than 3-6 runs per game.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:


Being a statue in the pocket is so much safer than running a handful of yards before gently stepping out of bounds untouched.

I don't care if The Flash is back there. No qb is getting out of that complete whiff by dwelley.

Originally posted by Furlow:
I wouldn't consider either of them "running QB's." None of us are knocking being mobile, scrambling, or making plays outside of the pocket. We're talking about designed runs by the QB, particularly on short yardage where the defenders are up in the box and hits are unavoidable. Trey had more of those in two games than Murray or Wilson did all season. Most of that is on Shanny of course, but the point is the same.

Using Murry as a benchmark, he had 88 rush attempts in 14 games last season, which is 6.3 per game. That's not bad but definitely more than I'd like to see. Incidentally, the three games he missed was due to an ankle injury he sustained while running the ball and being tackled by DB lol.

Russell Wilson only had 43 attempts in 14 games, which is 3 per game. That's about what I'd like to see. But I think we all know that Shanny is selfish and NEEDS to win with Trey, so if Trey struggles at all passing, Shanny will be dialing up many more than 3-6 runs per game.

Seriously? 😂

Head coach wants the team to win, shock.

Originally posted by Furlow:
I wouldn't consider either of them "running QB's." None of us are knocking being mobile, scrambling, or making plays outside of the pocket. We're talking about designed runs by the QB, particularly on short yardage where the defenders are up in the box and hits are unavoidable. Trey had more of those in two games than Murray or Wilson did all season. Most of that is on Shanny of course, but the point is the same.

Using Murry as a benchmark, he had 88 rush attempts in 14 games last season, which is 6.3 per game. That's not bad but definitely more than I'd like to see. Incidentally, the three games he missed was due to an ankle injury he sustained while running the ball and being tackled by DB lol.

Russell Wilson only had 43 attempts in 14 games, which is 3 per game. That's about what I'd like to see. But I think we all know that Shanny is selfish and NEEDS to win with Trey, so if Trey struggles at all passing, Shanny will be dialing up many more than 3-6 runs per game.

Yes how selfish of Shanny to do his best to win football games. It's not like those are important or anything.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Lol they are football players. Explain why there is a difference in rates of career length. If it's related to running the ball and we are talking about a QB running the ball...

You can't be serious bro. Running Backs running the ball is substantially different than QBs doing it. You know this. Not just style, but frequency.

Exactly! There is a huge difference between a RB running the ball 15, 20, 30 times in a game and a QB running it 2-3 times in a game in order to keep the numbers advantage alive.

There is yes. This is why RBs burn out quicker than QBs. They run it more. The more you run.. the more you burn out. Which is my point.

And such a SIMPLE point it is. Like we need a study on whether running a football and getting tackled running full speed into another human being multiple times a game hinders a player's longevity.

LOL

The more one gets hit, the higher chance of injury. It's not rocket science.

Originally posted by Furlow:
I wouldn't consider either of them "running QB's." None of us are knocking being mobile, scrambling, or making plays outside of the pocket. We're talking about designed runs by the QB, particularly on short yardage where the defenders are up in the box and hits are unavoidable. Trey had more of those in two games than Murray or Wilson did all season. Most of that is on Shanny of course, but the point is the same.

Using Murry as a benchmark, he had 88 rush attempts in 14 games last season, which is 6.3 per game. That's not bad but definitely more than I'd like to see. Incidentally, the three games he missed was due to an ankle injury he sustained while running the ball and being tackled by DB lol.

Russell Wilson only had 43 attempts in 14 games, which is 3 per game. That's about what I'd like to see. But I think we all know that Shanny is selfish and NEEDS to win with Trey, so if Trey struggles at all passing, Shanny will be dialing up many more than 3-6 runs per game.

Where did Wilson suffer his injury?

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
The more one gets hit, the higher chance of injury. It's not rocket science.

You can be hit in and out of the pocket.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
The more one gets hit, the higher chance of injury. It's not rocket science.

How many big hits do you see Murray take in this video?


The important thing isn't for us to not have Lance run the ball, it's that when he does run the ball he protects himself.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
The more one gets hit, the higher chance of injury. It's not rocket science.

You can be hit in and out of the pocket.

You will certainly be hit on designed runs, chances are slimmer on a designed pass. Running backs get hit nearly every rum, QBs get rarely hit on a pass.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
The more one gets hit, the higher chance of injury. It's not rocket science.

How many big hits do you see Murray take in this video?


The important thing isn't for us to not have Lance run the ball, it's that when he does run the ball he protects himself.

Lance is nowhere near Kyle's agility. Let's use lance though.

Here's a guy more to Lances agility and speed. Josh Allen. It's not rocket science.