LISTEN: Are The 49ers Done? →

There are 188 users in the forums

Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Shop 49ers game tickets
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lance is nowhere near Kyle's agility. Let's use lance though.

Yes? You can be hurt anywhere on the field depending on what happens with the defense. If the cards guys reacted late, lance walks in on that play.

Conversely if we called a pass and someone missed a block, he could've been blindsided/stripped and tore his thimb, he could have someone accidentally fall on his ankle, etc.

The point isn't that running plays or passing plays don't cause injury. The point is there is nothing to support saying running QBs get hurt at a higher frequency
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lance is nowhere near Kyle's agility. Let's use lance though.

Yes? You can be hurt anywhere on the field depending on what happens with the defense. If the cards guys reacted late, lance walks in on that play.

Conversely if we called a pass and someone missed a block, he could've been blindsided/stripped and tore his thimb, he could have someone accidentally fall on his ankle, etc.

The point isn't that running plays or passing plays don't cause injury. The point is there is nothing to support saying running QBs get hurt at a higher frequency

If you guys say so. If you want Trey to run 16-20 times a game I find that asking for trouble.
FWIW

https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/season/2021/mobile-quarterbacks-and-injury-rates
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
If you guys say so. If you want Trey to run 16-20 times a game I find that asking for trouble.

He won't run that many times but I see him running 8-10 times a game. While it's a risk health wise it would also be criminal to not use that ability.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
If you guys say so. If you want Trey to run 16-20 times a game I find that asking for trouble.

He won't run that many times but I see him running 8-10 times a game. While it's a risk health wise it would also be criminal to not use that ability.

It will be great, so long as they can minimize contact. I'm not a fan of designed runs up the gut, but Trey will need to learn the art of sliding and going out of bounds. The main reason Rice was able to remain healthy most of his career was his uncanny ability to minimize contact when he was tackled.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
If you guys say so. If you want Trey to run 16-20 times a game I find that asking for trouble.

He won't run that many times but I see him running 8-10 times a game. While it's a risk health wise it would also be criminal to not use that ability.

16-20 times lol. I don't think anyone expects that. The threat has to be there. He's got to take advantage of those free yards.
The best part about the season starting is that it will allow us to move on from the assumption that the way Trey played in his first NFL game (and only 2nd football game in 2 years) with only a basic knowledge of the offense is how he's going to play or be used in every game in his career going forward.
Originally posted by krizay:
FWIW

https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/season/2021/mobile-quarterbacks-and-injury-rates

Posted this along with about 10 other links and they were a ignored because of "common sense."

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by krizay:
FWIW

https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/season/2021/mobile-quarterbacks-and-injury-rates

Posted this along with about 10 other links and they were a ignored because of "common sense."


Lol thought I was on ignore as you let everyone know every single post for whatever attention grabbing reason.

That article is terribly written imo and doesn't explain anything really though.

"At first, it might seem like staying in the pocket is safest. To a degree, that's an accurate assessment."

"To summarize, passing that doesn't end in a scramble or a spike has a 0.28% injury rate, designed runs 0.64%, scrambles 0.87%, sacks 1.4%, and knockdowns are 1.56%."

I like to eat he sneakily uses Alex Smith pocket injury yet doesn't use this one...

Or this one

Very very disingenuous article. The severity of said injury is not the only factor, the likeliness which even the article admits is higher than a QB untouched(common sense) is just as much if not more. An untouched QB rarely gets injured. Of course getting sacked is bad but throwing the ball untouched, which happens a vast majority of the time, is the safest. The idea is to not get hit...
[ Edited by TreyDeyEeyDey on Aug 11, 2022 at 7:55 PM ]
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
If you guys say so. If you want Trey to run 16-20 times a game I find that asking for trouble.

I don't want him running 20 times a game but it's not because I think he's going to get hurt (he could). You succeed in this league by being a pocket passer first.
JimmyDurHur still at it lol
[ Edited by TheGore49er on Aug 11, 2022 at 8:00 PM ]
Trey is gonna be good. Change my mind
  • mayo49
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 64,320
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
If you guys say so. If you want Trey to run 16-20 times a game I find that asking for trouble.

I don't want him running 20 times a game but it's not because I think he's going to get hurt (he could). You succeed in this league by being a pocket passer first.

I want him to run, but I don't want him one reading than taking off.
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Trey is gonna be good. Change my mind

I think you have a legit point. No doubt.
I honestly hope Trey really only runs two or three times a game, but threatens on every snap. Ideally, his brain cycles are focused on breaking down defenses, not deciding to keep or run every other play.

If he can break a big run every other game, that threat alone will be enough to make defenses slow, especially if Trey can legitimately carve you up with his arm.

please stay healthy 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Share 49ersWebzone