Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Lance has to have a Pro Bowl season his 1st season as starter.

I like what you are talking about right here

I agree!

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Fortunately we were able to use those picks to get one of the cornerstones. Passer and pass rusher

We now have both and we have a good roster and coaches so I'm not sweating the picks at this point

In time this is gonna look like a great deal to move up and get Trey and he could very well be a 15 year guy under Kyle

If you get a Charles Haley level edge rusher and a Steve Young level QB, (both hall of fame level) you have a perennial playoff contender. with the one condition that the rest of the team plus special teams are average starter level talent or more. I.e. *no weaknesses* but also no need for strengths in those areas either.

On paper, Trey looks like a hall of fame level talent, and on paper, this team may be one of the teams left standing at the end of the season. I applaud the boldness it took to get a Trey Lance level talent at the QB position. This is a huge gamble in my opinion, and I hope ShanaLynch has knocked this one out of the park.

I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
No ar

No argument on that, I just think Hurts is setting the bar too low but I do agree that expectations need to be tempered.

I think the bar is appropriate for his first yr…great D and a offense based around the run. Same as Philly.

Lance is more talented and I don't expect him to just be Hurts for his career or anything. We're talking YR1.

4,000 total yards, 61 comp%, 30+ total TDs I wouldn't be upset with that at all…great base to develop off of.

The #3 pick who we traded three 1st for having a similar season to the 53rd pick is "appropriate?" Lol wow. Y'all really lining up the excuses.

Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick. What difference does it make where someone was drafted?

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
Are you guys saying we should expect just as much out of a 3rd rounder as a 3rd total pick? One that we spent 3 first rounders on?! Expectations should be exactly the same?

Well, Joe was a third round pick...

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

That's an odd stance to take considering what we saw in 2019 and 2021.

There's room for the Pro Bowl as the stacked teams are in the AFC..

You got the old guys Brady / Rodgers and Dak.. that's about it.. who else is great in the NFC.. maybe Stafford / Murray / Cousins

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
There's room for the Pro Bowl as the stacked teams are in the AFC..

You got the old guys Brady / Rodgers and Dak.. that's about it.. who else is great in the NFC.. maybe Stafford / Murray / Cousins

Man, remember when the Pro Bowl actually meant something? Now guys like Cousins make it because the dudes who earn it rarely go.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
There's room for the Pro Bowl as the stacked teams are in the AFC..

You got the old guys Brady / Rodgers and Dak.. that's about it.. who else is great in the NFC.. maybe Stafford / Murray / Cousins

Man, remember when the Pro Bowl actually meant something? Now guys like Cousins make it because the dudes who earn it rarely go.

Mac Jones made it last year as like a 10th alternate.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
There's room for the Pro Bowl as the stacked teams are in the AFC..

You got the old guys Brady / Rodgers and Dak.. that's about it.. who else is great in the NFC.. maybe Stafford / Murray / Cousins

Man, remember when the Pro Bowl actually meant something? Now guys like Cousins make it because the dudes who earn it rarely go.

AFC has a lot more comp the entire AFC West is Pro Bowl worthy.. then you have Burrow, Lamar, Josh Allen, Matt Ryan.. AFC pretty stacked this year..

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Lance has to have a Pro Bowl season his 1st season as starter.

I like what you are talking about right here

I agree!

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Why can't we let the dude play and evaluate his body of work on its merits after the fact? What is the point of setting expectations up front?

You must have missed the Steve Young vs Joe threads, and the Kaepernick vs Alex Smith threads.

I think some of those thread pages are in the many many thousands of pages now, I think.

In other words we love to compare, and we'll compare Jimmy, to Trey, to the many other 49er QB's of old. It's a tradition here on the Webzone.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
There's room for the Pro Bowl as the stacked teams are in the AFC..

You got the old guys Brady / Rodgers and Dak.. that's about it.. who else is great in the NFC.. maybe Stafford / Murray / Cousins

Man, remember when the Pro Bowl actually meant something? Now guys like Cousins make it because the dudes who earn it rarely go.

AFC has a lot more comp the entire AFC West is Pro Bowl worthy.. then you have Burrow, Lamar, Josh Allen, Matt Ryan.. AFC pretty stacked this year..

So nice we only have to face 1 of those guys in the playoffs.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Lance has to have a Pro Bowl season his 1st season as starter.

I like what you are talking about right here

I agree!

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

TEBOW