Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Originally posted by thl408:
We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Who is that? Tim Tebow?

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

That's an odd stance to take considering what we saw in 2019 and 2021.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Who is that? Tim Tebow?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Who is that? Tim Tebow?

One thing ppl undersell with Tebow is once he was installed they were essentially the #1 rush offense in the NFL. They finished #1 rush attempts and yards. That and D is how they won. They did not run well prior to him being installed. I wouldn't say Tebow sucked.. I would say he was unconventional and better suited as a runner.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Who is that? Tim Tebow?

One thing ppl undersell with Tebow is once he was installed they were essentially the #1 rush offense in the NFL. They finished #1 rush attempts and yards. That and D is how they won. They did not run well prior to him being installed. I wouldn't say Tebow sucked.. I would say he was unconventional and better suited as a runner.

He sucked

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Who is that? Tim Tebow?

One thing ppl undersell with Tebow is once he was installed they were essentially the #1 rush offense in the NFL. They finished #1 rush attempts and yards. That and D is how they won. They did not run well prior to him being installed. I wouldn't say Tebow sucked.. I would say he was unconventional and better suited as a runner.

He sucked

Well that may be like your opinion man.. he ended up throwing for 316 and a playoff W over the #1 D in football that year.. more was happening that year than just he sucked.. it was a very unusual year for a QB I'll just put it that way..

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I find it very unlikely for Trey to suck and the team to make it deep into the playoffs. cant minimize the importance of QB play in the overall success of team accomplishment. And im not just talking about stats. There are other intangibles that go into the position that can't be quantified and lead to team success.

That is why you use three 1st and a 3rd because the QB position is that important to team success.

11 games
Completion%: 46.5
12 TD, 6 INT
6.4 yards per attempt

This QB got his team past the Wild Card round, into the Divisional Round. This QB sucked, and if Lance has a season like this, he had a bad season. We need to understand how to separate QB success from team success, as well as QB failure from team failure.

Who is that? Tim Tebow?

One thing ppl undersell with Tebow is once he was installed they were essentially the #1 rush offense in the NFL. They finished #1 rush attempts and yards. That and D is how they won. They did not run well prior to him being installed. I wouldn't say Tebow sucked.. I would say he was unconventional and better suited as a runner.

He sucked

Well that may be like your opinion man.. he ended up throwing for 316 and a playoff W over the #1 D in football that year.. more was happening that year than just he sucked.. it was a very unusual year for a QB I'll just put it that way..

It's not my opinion. He was out of the league really fast. He tried to come back as a TE.

He sucked, the entire league didn't want him as a QB, not even a backup.

How you can argue this is beyond me

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
He wasn't Manning but he wasn't Nate Peterman either. Leading a team to the playoffs and putting over 300 yards on the #1 D and beating them is not bad. He had a great year. Not stat wise but he took a lot of the league by storm it was Tebowmania. Didn't last. He didn't suck tho Kyle Orton sucked.. I mean he got benched for Tebow.

See what you did thl... now we got Tebow debates..

Originally posted by Furlow:
I don't want a QB who has to run for 20% of his yardage production and 40% of his touchdown production because he's not a very good passer, not from the #3 pick and multiple 1st's to get him. Could have gotten that much later in the draft and kept the rest of our picks.