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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Trey Lance converted 11 1st downs in the CHI game. 5 of those were passing and 6 were rushing. He converted 8 of those on 3rd down with 3 of them passing and 5 of them rushing. As a team, we converted 17 1st downs with one of them due to a penalty. Trey converted 69% of our first downs if you don't include the one converted by a penalty.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Does DeShaun Watson have IT? Heard he did because of his college games. Seems like he spent more time showing IT though.
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Trey will improve in most areas of his game as time goes on. Experience and repetition are what makes men good at whatever craft they're in. My beef with Trey are the things that aren't graphable. I don't think he's a natural leader and I think he's soft. In that muddy, terrible field and weather San Francisco needed someone to play outside of the box score and just make a Super Star play. A number 3 overall pick play... a trade away three first rounders kind of play.
What he's lacking is the IT factor. I don't think it's something you can train at, though, or just get better with over time.
I love discussing IT factor. Many companies have an entire department dedicated to IT.
I thought he was referring to the scary clown
You guys are hilarious!
Whats hilarious is posters making definitive claims about Lance after 3 games.
What you fail to realize is that many of us didn't like Lance prior to the draft for the same reasons we don't like him now. Our biggest fears have been confirmed.
Originally posted by jimrat:
Not sure if already posted but yikes
Former Super Bowl winning coach Mike Martz told @The33rdTeamFB that #Bears QB Justin Fields "Can't do anything at all."
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) September 13, 2022
And on #49ers Trey Lance: "He's not a great passer. Doesn't have good skills. takes him a long time to set himself and throw the football." pic.twitter.com/K1iDU07bbB
Originally posted by Brucey72:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Anyone have the clip of the miss to Kroft?
.@49ers and the Shanny coaching tree have been running this TE Drag/Wheel forever! It's a staple play. A missed opportunity #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/XHYO77M5IL
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) September 12, 2022
Some of these throws seem a bit ticky tacky when it comes to criticism. Take for example the pass down the sideline that Trey threw to Jennings. Everyone says Trey under threw him because Jennings had to turn and wait a split second for it. Then with the play posted above, they say Trey over threw Kroft. If Kroft wouldn't have slowed down and turned but just ran under it, he would have caught it going into the endzone. These things seem more like a timing issue than it does an accuracy issue. Just my thoughts.
You're not wrong. The more that I watch this play, the more that I think exactly what you described. Kroft slowed down as he turned, which is obviously his fault. But people only see the sideline view and frame as the ball gets to him, and it looks like a horrible pass. It wasn't. Juice also did Trey no favors and could have hit the DE rather then let him run past.
The criticism of the Jennings is throw is pure idiocy. Jennings did not have to slow down, that pass was in stride. He tripped on his own feet and cost us a touchdown. Just those two plays being made for Trey and we win the game, and his stat line/passer rating are WAY better. Then people would say he played a good game? So dumb.
For me on this play it just looked like a lack of timing between a QB and a 4th string TE. Kroft is a lot slower that the TE he has thrown too most of the offseason. He should have just floated it too him instead of trying to lead him since they probably haven't played together very often. He definitely should have hit it tho
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Trey Lance converted 11 1st downs in the CHI game. 5 of those were passing and 6 were rushing. He converted 8 of those on 3rd down with 3 of them passing and 5 of them rushing. As a team, we converted 17 1st downs with one of them due to a penalty. Trey converted 69% of our first downs if you don't include the one converted by a penalty.
69% seems kinda high for a bust who sucks.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Trey Lance converted 11 1st downs in the CHI game. 5 of those were passing and 6 were rushing. He converted 8 of those on 3rd down with 3 of them passing and 5 of them rushing. As a team, we converted 17 1st downs with one of them due to a penalty. Trey converted 69% of our first downs if you don't include the one converted by a penalty.
69% seems kinda high for a bust who sucks.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by jimrat:
Not sure if already posted but yikes
Former Super Bowl winning coach Mike Martz told @The33rdTeamFB that #Bears QB Justin Fields "Can't do anything at all."
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) September 13, 2022
And on #49ers Trey Lance: "He's not a great passer. Doesn't have good skills. takes him a long time to set himself and throw the football." pic.twitter.com/K1iDU07bbB
LMFAO. I don't agree with his assessment, but that s**t was funny. Martz was dead serious with his assessments.
"I don't know if I've ever seen such a bad performance for a QB."
"He looked like a fullback stumbling around trying to run the ball"
Originally posted by cortana49:
Originally posted by jimrat:
Not sure if already posted but yikes
Former Super Bowl winning coach Mike Martz told @The33rdTeamFB that #Bears QB Justin Fields "Can't do anything at all."
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) September 13, 2022
And on #49ers Trey Lance: "He's not a great passer. Doesn't have good skills. takes him a long time to set himself and throw the football." pic.twitter.com/K1iDU07bbB
Martz.
Picked JT O'Sullivan over Alex Smith.
I wonder which QB went on to have a successful career?
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Trey Lance converted 11 1st downs in the CHI game. 5 of those were passing and 6 were rushing. He converted 8 of those on 3rd down with 3 of them passing and 5 of them rushing. As a team, we converted 17 1st downs with one of them due to a penalty. Trey converted 69% of our first downs if you don't include the one converted by a penalty.
69% seems kinda high for a bust who sucks.
It slightly makes up for the dozen or so horribly unlucky 3rd and 4th down rush attempts that he came up short on last season.
Originally posted by Furlow:
How many QB sneaks do we see get stuffed on a weekly basis? A LOT. Some QB's just have a knack for it (Brady), others are bulldozers (Cam Newton). Trey seems to be a blend of both. Small sample size but between college and the NFL he's converted quite a few. Is it not special to be able to easily pick up a 3rd and 1 when even the other team knows you're going to do a QB sneak? But okay, we'll take that away. There are plenty of other examples that you're admittedly ignoring. I'm sure part of your "irritation" was watching special plays, knowing that it doesn't fit your strange narrative here.
Originally posted by jimrat:
Not sure if already posted but yikes
Former Super Bowl winning coach Mike Martz told @The33rdTeamFB that #Bears QB Justin Fields "Can't do anything at all."
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) September 13, 2022
And on #49ers Trey Lance: "He's not a great passer. Doesn't have good skills. takes him a long time to set himself and throw the football." pic.twitter.com/K1iDU07bbB
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Trey Lance converted 11 1st downs in the CHI game. 5 of those were passing and 6 were rushing. He converted 8 of those on 3rd down with 3 of them passing and 5 of them rushing. As a team, we converted 17 1st downs with one of them due to a penalty. Trey converted 69% of our first downs if you don't include the one converted by a penalty.
69% seems kinda high for a bust who sucks.
It slightly makes up for the dozen or so horribly unlucky 3rd and 4th down rush attempts that he came up short on last season.
What, in his first ever start?
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Trey Lance converted 11 1st downs in the CHI game. 5 of those were passing and 6 were rushing. He converted 8 of those on 3rd down with 3 of them passing and 5 of them rushing. As a team, we converted 17 1st downs with one of them due to a penalty. Trey converted 69% of our first downs if you don't include the one converted by a penalty.
69% seems kinda high for a bust who sucks.
Fr. The guy needs to play in order to get better but he is far from being a bust. If Trey does have a "SB caliber roster" around him, they sure in the hell didn't show it in CHI.