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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
routine? show me how many times allen mahomes brady rogers wilson hebert run inside zone in a game? like once every five years

You're seriously asking how many times QB's are running the zone read in today's NFL? Like every single game. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson, all running it consistently. It takes advantage of a younger group of QB's with the arm to make a throw or use their mobility to take off and gash a defense on a ground.

The play is routine, the outcome, unfortunately, is not.

Really not anymore that needs to be said
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I have to admit I've lost some luster for Trey. The whole reason I started liking him was his character (was Team Fields, and the Mac and Lance were close). Now after this stripper video I wonder how much of it is talking the talk and how much is walking the walk.

Patrick Mahomes isn't going to be seen throwing money at a stripper. Because he has a wife. The best QBs are either married or have a simple life during the season. The ones with distractions like strippers and porn stars and video games will never be better than the likes of Kaepernick, Jimmy and Kyle Murray.

The Hall of Fame ones? Not so much.

EDIT—Since I know someone is going to say it: YES, young men do this kind of stuff. Young Hall of Fame QBs don't.

How is Jimmy different? He's not married and dates porn stars.

I expect better takes from you than this.

Probably why he mentioned porn stars...
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I can't blame Kyle for it but the truth is that Trey has suffered a severe injury on this kinda play in half of the games he has started.

It has to be a concern.

Huh?
Josh Allen literally runs the exact same type of plays(QB power, QB GT, QB draw, etc) almost every week. His ankle would snap too if a 350-pound fat f**k landed on it.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I have to admit I've lost some luster for Trey. The whole reason I started liking him was his character (was Team Fields, and the Mac and Lance were close). Now after this stripper video I wonder how much of it is talking the talk and how much is walking the walk.

Patrick Mahomes isn't going to be seen throwing money at a stripper. Because he has a wife. The best QBs are either married or have a simple life during the season. The ones with distractions like strippers and porn stars and video games will never be better than the likes of Kaepernick, Jimmy and Kyle Murray.

The Hall of Fame ones? Not so much.

EDIT—Since I know someone is going to say it: YES, young men do this kind of stuff. Young Hall of Fame QBs don't.

WTF is this?
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I refuse to write this kid off, I doubt I'll come back to this thread for the year as it'll be toxic.

The kid works too hard for this to be the end.

Yeah, I don't think anyone is writing this kid off by any means. It's time to be realistic, he's been injured in two seasons, has limited experience passing, and injured something that may hinder his biggest ability (running). I think the 49ers will hope for the best with Lance but they will need to look at drafting another qb early.

Good thing we have a 1st round pick to use
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I can't blame Kyle for it but the truth is that Trey has suffered a severe injury on this kinda play in half of the games he has started.

It has to be a concern.

I blame Kyle
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I can't blame Kyle for it but the truth is that Trey has suffered a severe injury on this kinda play in half of the games he has started.

It has to be a concern.

Huh?

Hes saying he's injury prone. 2 major injuries in minimal games. It's a bit ironic he's replacing Jimmy.
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I have to admit I've lost some luster for Trey. The whole reason I started liking him was his character (was Team Fields, and the Mac and Lance were close). Now after this stripper video I wonder how much of it is talking the talk and how much is walking the walk.

Patrick Mahomes isn't going to be seen throwing money at a stripper. Because he has a wife. The best QBs are either married or have a simple life during the season. The ones with distractions like strippers and porn stars and video games will never be better than the likes of Kaepernick, Jimmy and Kyle Murray.

The Hall of Fame ones? Not so much.

EDIT—Since I know someone is going to say it: YES, young men do this kind of stuff. Young Hall of Fame QBs don't.


I mean you're gonna act like throwing money at a woman's ass on camera is becoming of a Franchise QB?
Originally posted by Heroism:
Josh Allen literally runs the exact same type of plays(QB power, QB GT, QB draw, etc) almost every week. His ankle would snap too if a 350-pound fat f**k landed on it.

but but but
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Common sense people


No doubt in my mind the play calls were part of a setup for later in the game. He was trying to make them have to defend all 11.

I said that last week. It's a very Kyle thing to do. Probably play this way the first 8 to 12 games to get it on film, then switch it up. In a way I like it, but it's like boxing. If you can knock a guy out, just do it and we have the players at RB and WR, and eventually TE that can knock defenses out. One plus for Trey, I expect he will have a better pass protecting O-line in 2023.

Part of this also gets it on tape for later to switch things up, yes. But part is also setting up future play calls in the same game. They will come back to that same look later and Trey will throw right when the D is expecting QB run again. Kyle is notorious with setting teams up early and coming back to those looks later to cash em in for a chunk play.

I totally get it. I just think talent wise, man to man, we are better than most teams in the NFL. Just knock these guys out. Sadly we won't know until next year what's being set up. I'm optimistic though- Trey may be limited in experience in 2023, but the team will be even better. Aiyuk, Deebo, an experienced Gray, experienced Banks, and Burford, TDP, Mitchell, and Mason. The future is bright for the short term and long term.
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Donovan McNabb and Dak came back from this type of injury just fine. What is going to hurt is not getting the live reps.
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I refuse to write this kid off, I doubt I'll come back to this thread for the year as it'll be toxic.

The kid works too hard for this to be the end.

Yeah, I don't think anyone is writing this kid off by any means. It's time to be realistic, he's been injured in two seasons, has limited experience passing, and injured something that may hinder his biggest ability (running). I think the 49ers will hope for the best with Lance but they will need to look at drafting another qb early.

Good thing we have a 1st round pick to use

You fear we are gonna draft in the top 5? The 2022 draft looks solid without a first round pick so far.
Say what you want about Grant. But he hit the nail on the head in regards to the Trey Lance stripper scandal

get well soon Trey

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I mean you're gonna act like throwing money at a woman's ass on camera is becoming of a Franchise QB?

You're gonna act like no NFL player or QB as ever been to a strip club or a bachelor party…I never thought you would be that naïve.
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