Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

With JD and Thl on here, I loved JD's breakdown on how Trey aids the running game. The issue is his runs are in volume and into the teeth of a very large and active front 7 and in the teeth of the defense, there isn't a whole lot of space to slide or protect yourself.

He had 13 rushes last week. He had 3 before he got hurt (on pace for double digits again).

And was it needed? We had 189 yards rushing on 4.2 ypc. Wilson alone was averaging 4.7 ypc.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by BangBang49er:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Brucey72:
Its also pretty disgusting to watch people celebrating his injury on here, Facebook, twitter. I understand that you are loyal to Jimmy and think Trey is a bust but to celebrate a 22 year olds season ending injury is pretty f**ked up. He seems like a good guy and I think people forget these are people not little pawns. I don't remember anyone celebrating when Jimmy tore his ACL or got injured in 2020.

Since this fanbase has become so toxic since the 2021 draft. It is just as toxic as the current political climate. You pick a side and root for other side to fail and you for some reason hate the other side with a passion. You don't have to hate Trey to support Jimmy and you don't have to hate Jimmy to support Trey. Celebrating his injury is as disgusting as rooting for Jimmy's injury last year.

Well said. Pretty sad

I personally haven't seen a single poster celebrating his injury. Im pretty sure that's not thought highly of by the mods either.

Not saying this board but in general if you check social media it's out there

My buddy was happy as hell. He just wants to win now and right now Jimmy is better, who cares about lance. He's a very simple fan.

There's a stark line between believing Jimmy gives the team a better chance and being happy a young guy has to have his ankle rebuilt.

You can be one without the other.

Like in here, there are a very very small minority of fans who s**t on Garoppolo. It's personal for them. Then you go to the game and the entire base is chanting, "Jimmy!" Which was awesome BTW. So it doesn't surprise me there is a small loud faction of fans who disparaged Trey and cheered his injury, as sickening as it is.

Chanting Jimmy while Trey is the QB does not paint the fans in a good light. On the broadcast, you could hear the fans cheering loudly when the cart started to come out for Trey.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by BangBang49er:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Brucey72:
Its also pretty disgusting to watch people celebrating his injury on here, Facebook, twitter. I understand that you are loyal to Jimmy and think Trey is a bust but to celebrate a 22 year olds season ending injury is pretty f**ked up. He seems like a good guy and I think people forget these are people not little pawns. I don't remember anyone celebrating when Jimmy tore his ACL or got injured in 2020.

Since this fanbase has become so toxic since the 2021 draft. It is just as toxic as the current political climate. You pick a side and root for other side to fail and you for some reason hate the other side with a passion. You don't have to hate Trey to support Jimmy and you don't have to hate Jimmy to support Trey. Celebrating his injury is as disgusting as rooting for Jimmy's injury last year.

Well said. Pretty sad

I personally haven't seen a single poster celebrating his injury. Im pretty sure that's not thought highly of by the mods either.

Not saying this board but in general if you check social media it's out there

My buddy was happy as hell. He just wants to win now and right now Jimmy is better, who cares about lance. He's a very simple fan.

There's a stark line between believing Jimmy gives the team a better chance and being happy a young guy has to have his ankle rebuilt.

You can be one without the other.

Like in here, there are a very very small minority of fans who s**t on Garoppolo. It's personal for them. Then you go to the game and the entire base is chanting, "Jimmy!" Which was awesome BTW. So it doesn't surprise me there is a small loud faction of fans who disparaged Trey and cheered his injury, as sickening as it is.

Chanting Jimmy while Trey is the QB does not paint the fans in a good light. On the broadcast, you could hear the fans cheering loudly when the cart started to come out for Trey.

No, after the injury and Jimmy came in and esp. after leading us to a TD. Then it got loud.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
https://youtu.be/09PXasoR2sI

similar injury to Dak in 2020 and Trey didn't cry like a big baby like Dak 🤣
Dak came back and took the cowgirls to the playoff last season no problem but loses to Jimmy G at home last season 🤣

Trey is only 22, he will be back next season healthy and Jimmy G will very likely be gone and hopefully a SB winner, payback for all the money he already taken from the 9ers and will be earning the incentives if he does go far this season with the 9ers.

Can't really blame KS for running Trey, Lamar Jackson had 9 rushes for 119 yds and a TD just yesterday, running the ball is one of "young" Treys forte. I would blame Evil Pete and the seachickens more than anything for toxic coaching to hurt 9er players at all cost just to win, Pete is that evil and deserve to lose and retire in shame now Wilson isn't in Seattle anymore.

But will he make it through two consecutive starts without an injury when he returns?

He has been injury prone in his shirt NFL career thus far.

Worry about that next year. If he's smart and healthy next season to play, he would slide more often and be more careful when he runs if he starts next season. Look at Alex Smith, his leg was DESTROYED, he still came back and play and took his team to the playoffs.

Trey is 22, he will be back and good to go, this year is just not his time yet. Most of us wish it was but it isn't time yet, that's the only way you can look at it, same for him.
Patience is a virtue many times in life, maybe that's a big lesson for Trey this year, and I'm sure he will take the lesson in strive and hopefully learn and mature more along the way.

Originally posted by NCommand:
With JD and Thl on here, I loved JD's breakdown on how Trey aids the running game. The issue is his runs are im volume and into the teeth of a very large and active front 7 and in the teeth of the defense, there isn't a whole lot of space to slide or protect yourself.

And was it needed? We had 189 yards rushing on 4.2 ypc. Wilson alone was averaging 4.7 ypc.

113 of those rushing yards came when Trey was in at QB at almost 9 YPC. Only 76 yards rushing the rest of the game at 2.3 YPC.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NCommand:
With JD and Thl on here, I loved JD's breakdown on how Trey aids the running game. The issue is his runs are im volume and into the teeth of a very large and active front 7 and in the teeth of the defense, there isn't a whole lot of space to slide or protect yourself.

And was it needed? We had 189 yards rushing on 4.2 ypc. Wilson alone was averaging 4.7 ypc.

113 of those rushing yards came when Trey was in at QB at almost 9 YPC. Only 76 yards rushing the rest of the game at 2.3 YPC.

That shows what a mobile QB can do. When the D has to account for the QB it makes it a little easier for the other backs.

Originally posted by NCommand:
With JD and Thl on here, I loved JD's breakdown on how Trey aids the running game. The issue is his runs are in volume and into the teeth of a very large and active front 7 and in the teeth of the defense, there isn't a whole lot of space to slide or protect yourself.

He had 13 rushes last week. He had 3 before he got hurt (on pace for double digits again).

And was it needed? We had 189 yards rushing on 4.2 ypc. Wilson alone was averaging 4.7 ypc.

None of that second guessing matters anymore now, he got injured, it's part of football. It could have happened for a QB any other way.

Alex Smiths leg was destroyed by 2 defenders on a scramble when the pocket collapsed.. injury is part of football and young Treys forte is running the ball, I would put ALL blame on evil Pete and how he coaches his players to hurt 9ers, it's NOT THE FIRST TIME, karma is coming for Pete.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Brucey72:
Its also pretty disgusting to watch people celebrating his injury on here, Facebook, twitter. I understand that you are loyal to Jimmy and think Trey is a bust but to celebrate a 22 year olds season ending injury is pretty f**ked up. He seems like a good guy and I think people forget these are people not little pawns. I don't remember anyone celebrating when Jimmy tore his ACL or got injured in 2020.

Since this fanbase has become so toxic since the 2021 draft. It is just as toxic as the current political climate. You pick a side and root for other side to fail and you for some reason hate the other side with a passion. You don't have to hate Trey to support Jimmy and you don't have to hate Jimmy to support Trey. Celebrating his injury is as disgusting as rooting for Jimmy's injury last year.

Well said. Pretty sad

The 49ers fanbase as a whole is embarrassingly bad. So many spoiled babies who demand instant gratification, even when its bad for the big picture. We've reached the point where our fans are probably one of the worst in football, just from an overall football knowledge standpoint. This isn't new either. Chanting for David Carr years ago. Its pathetic.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NCommand:
With JD and Thl on here, I loved JD's breakdown on how Trey aids the running game. The issue is his runs are im volume and into the teeth of a very large and active front 7 and in the teeth of the defense, there isn't a whole lot of space to slide or protect yourself.

And was it needed? We had 189 yards rushing on 4.2 ypc. Wilson alone was averaging 4.7 ypc.

113 of those rushing yards came when Trey was in at QB at almost 9 YPC. Only 76 yards rushing the rest of the game at 2.3 YPC.

That shows what a mobile QB can do. When the D has to account for the QB it makes it a little easier for the other backs.

It doesn't mean he actually needs to run at that volume or into the front 7. He simply needs to add a threat of it. He had 13 carries last week on 54 yards. No defense is game planning around that "threat."

That's what TDP is for.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Brucey72:
Its also pretty disgusting to watch people celebrating his injury on here, Facebook, twitter. I understand that you are loyal to Jimmy and think Trey is a bust but to celebrate a 22 year olds season ending injury is pretty f**ked up. He seems like a good guy and I think people forget these are people not little pawns. I don't remember anyone celebrating when Jimmy tore his ACL or got injured in 2020.

Since this fanbase has become so toxic since the 2021 draft. It is just as toxic as the current political climate. You pick a side and root for other side to fail and you for some reason hate the other side with a passion. You don't have to hate Trey to support Jimmy and you don't have to hate Jimmy to support Trey. Celebrating his injury is as disgusting as rooting for Jimmy's injury last year.

Well said. Pretty sad

The 49ers fanbase as a whole is embarrassingly bad. So many spoiled babies who demand instant gratification, even when its bad for the big picture. We've reached the point where our fans are probably one of the worst in football, just from an overall football knowledge standpoint. This isn't new either. Chanting for David Carr years ago. Its pathetic.

And what's funny was David Carr was a trash QB.. as bad as Blaine Gabbert who replaced Krap who replace Alex Smith, none of which made any pro bowls other than Alex Smith 🤣 too funny.

This is the majority of the clueless entitled unevolved
fan base we're dealing with 🤣

Originally posted by thl408:
Just rewatched the fateful play. Not a typical zone read with inside zone blocking and the QB keeper means the QB runs to the edge. I don't know what it's called.

We used to call that jet counter read. Pretty common in high school fb.

i knew one or both of our qb's would get injured. i was just hoping it was not significant and they could at least play half a season for each other. Which ever qb you like this is a disaster. Its not like jimmy has shown the ability to play 17. With two competent qb's i thought we were in good shape. Betting on jimmy G's health is like trying to strike rich at a casino

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NCommand:
With JD and Thl on here, I loved JD's breakdown on how Trey aids the running game. The issue is his runs are im volume and into the teeth of a very large and active front 7 and in the teeth of the defense, there isn't a whole lot of space to slide or protect yourself.

And was it needed? We had 189 yards rushing on 4.2 ypc. Wilson alone was averaging 4.7 ypc.

113 of those rushing yards came when Trey was in at QB at almost 9 YPC. Only 76 yards rushing the rest of the game at 2.3 YPC.

That shows what a mobile QB can do. When the D has to account for the QB it makes it a little easier for the other backs.

It doesn't mean he actually needs to run at that volume or into the front 7. He simply needs to add a threat of it. He had 13 carries last week on 54 yards. No defense is game planning around that "threat."

That's what TDP is for.

So what's the right amount of carries? Five? Eight? He could have gotten injured on his first carry or while standing in the pocket.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NCommand:

With JD and Thl on here, I loved JD's breakdown on how Trey aids the running game. The issue is his runs are im volume and into the teeth of a very large and active front 7 and in the teeth of the defense, there isn't a whole lot of space to slide or protect yourself.

And was it needed? We had 189 yards rushing on 4.2 ypc. Wilson alone was averaging 4.7 ypc.

113 of those rushing yards came when Trey was in at QB at almost 9 YPC. Only 76 yards rushing the rest of the game at 2.3 YPC.

That shows what a mobile QB can do. When the D has to account for the QB it makes it a little easier for the other backs.

It doesn't mean he actually needs to run at that volume or into the front 7. He simply needs to add a threat of it. He had 13 carries last week on 54 yards. No defense is game planning around that "threat."

That's what TDP is for.

So what's the right amount of carries? Five? Eight? He could have gotten injured on his first carry or while standing in the pocket.

He may not be built for any amount of designed runs.

Henhurt his knee last year and missed games.

49ers dialed up the counter version for Trey; Ravens ran the power version for Lamar. One guy breaks off a long run TD, and the other guy breaks his ankle.