Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
All I know is that "Trey Area!" call is obnoxious af and needs to never be uttered again.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

7 on 7 is where QBs develop timing and confidence in where their receiver will be during the timing of the progression... so that when they go against a live rush they can trust what they see and feel and let it rip... if he aint doing it vs air its not gonna happen in the game

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

7 on 7 is where QBs develop timing and confidence in where their receiver will be during the timing of the progression... so that when they go against a live rush they can trust what they see and feel and let it rip... if he aint doing it vs air its not gonna happen in the game

What? So Lance should get 13 friends together and have them run routes/coverage for him?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

Pointing out BP was balling from the jump. Countless others do this. The good ones tend to. Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Warner one could go on and on and on. Cam Newton did. TL a lot more of a raw prospect, which is why he had the red shirt year more or less. Injury turned it to two red shirt years.

No reason to think he will be struggling week 1 next year, he is capable of having a real game week 1 if called upon. Depends on how his offseason goes.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

7 on 7 is where QBs develop timing and confidence in where their receiver will be during the timing of the progression... so that when they go against a live rush they can trust what they see and feel and let it rip... if he aint doing it vs air its not gonna happen in the game

What? So Lance should get 13 friends together and have them run routes/coverage for him?

Lol, sure why not, didn't you do that with your buddies in HS?
I think the point is that Lance did a lot of this in the Spring and leading up to the preseason and the reviews were mixed on his performance. So why would it be expected he do better in the games, and he didn't.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

Pointing out BP was balling from the jump. Countless others do this. The good ones tend to. Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Warner one could go on and on and on. Cam Newton did. TL a lot more of a raw prospect, which is why he had the red shirt year more or less. Injury turned it to two red shirt years.

No reason to think he will be struggling week 1 next year, he is capable of having a real game week 1 if called upon. Depends on how his offseason goes.

What did you mean by, "But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't", in your post above?
It's possible I completely misunderstood you, but I thought you meant, 'you don't need to play to improve'.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

Pointing out BP was balling from the jump. Countless others do this. The good ones tend to. Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Warner one could go on and on and on. Cam Newton did. TL a lot more of a raw prospect, which is why he had the red shirt year more or less. Injury turned it to two red shirt years.

No reason to think he will be struggling week 1 next year, he is capable of having a real game week 1 if called upon. Depends on how his offseason goes.

What did you mean by, "But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't", in your post above?
It's possible I completely misunderstood you, but I thought you meant, 'you don't need to play to improve'.

I was saying you don't need to struggle for your first handful of career starts before you look good / ready. I see a persistent narrative in this thread that TL won't look good until he gets a certain x volume of starts. I don't believe in that.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

7 on 7 is where QBs develop timing and confidence in where their receiver will be during the timing of the progression... so that when they go against a live rush they can trust what they see and feel and let it rip... if he aint doing it vs air its not gonna happen in the game

What? So Lance should get 13 friends together and have them run routes/coverage for him?

Lol, sure why not, didn't you do that with your buddies in HS?
I think the point is that Lance did a lot of this in the Spring and leading up to the preseason and the reviews were mixed on his performance. So why would it be expected he do better in the games, and he didn't.

No I didn't. I don't think my high school buddies knew what pattern matching Quarters coverage is. I find it hard to believe that Lance simulated 7 on 7 with his buddies in the spring leading up to the preseason. Show me a video or article if there is one.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

Pointing out BP was balling from the jump. Countless others do this. The good ones tend to. Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Warner one could go on and on and on. Cam Newton did. TL a lot more of a raw prospect, which is why he had the red shirt year more or less. Injury turned it to two red shirt years.

No reason to think he will be struggling week 1 next year, he is capable of having a real game week 1 if called upon. Depends on how his offseason goes.

What did you mean by, "But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't", in your post above?
It's possible I completely misunderstood you, but I thought you meant, 'you don't need to play to improve'.

I was saying you don't need to struggle for your first handful of career starts before you look good / ready. I see a persistent narrative in this thread that TL won't look good until he gets a certain x volume of starts. I don't believe in that.

You also don't need to be a total baller right out the gate in order to have a good career, especially at the QB position where there is a lot to learn.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I actually think his pocket awareness is underrated. To me it's just getting the ball out on time and staying in rhythm. Those are the biggest concerns I have for Trey.

When he does this, I admit he does look good throwing when he is in rhythm. He just isn't usually in rhythm.

He has started 3 games.... NON-CONSECUTIVELY. Tough to get into a rhythm consistently methinks. So he looks get throwing when he is in rhythm but people dont want to give him games to play in order for said rhythm to become more consistent... craziness.

Guys who are ready to play play.. guys who aren't don't. See Purdy, Brock among countless others. TL has looked okay in his time, not bad I would say. But the idea you need play time to perform, you don't. We act like these guys don't throw or get prepared outside of regular season games.

Because throwing to Aiyuk running routes versus air is the same as being in the pocket and having to find an open target before getting smashed?

7 on 7 is where QBs develop timing and confidence in where their receiver will be during the timing of the progression... so that when they go against a live rush they can trust what they see and feel and let it rip... if he aint doing it vs air its not gonna happen in the game

What? So Lance should get 13 friends together and have them run routes/coverage for him?

Lol, sure why not, didn't you do that with your buddies in HS?
I think the point is that Lance did a lot of this in the Spring and leading up to the preseason and the reviews were mixed on his performance. So why would it be expected he do better in the games, and he didn't.

No I didn't. I don't think my high school buddies knew what pattern matching Quarters coverage is. I find it hard to believe that Lance simulated 7 on 7 with his buddies in the spring leading up to the preseason. Show me a video or article if there is one.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Pointing out BP was balling from the jump. Countless others do this. The good ones tend to. Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Warner one could go on and on and on. Cam Newton did. TL a lot more of a raw prospect, which is why he had the red shirt year more or less. Injury turned it to two red shirt years.