Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Was Kittle the anonymous player that leaked this to Maiocco?

Brock's job to lose

Originally posted by Montana:
Wonder who is the other guy "floating around" as Joe said. Joe seems to have no faith in Lance, I guess that could be fuel for him idk. Extra chip on the shoulder. But what if Joe is right? Or what if Joe is wrong? Guess we will see. He seems to want the floater, whomever he is...who could it be?

JOE KNOWS FOOTBALL... He knows that stupid Runner Up Kyle only wanted Duck City Lance because of his Mahomes type of arm and ability to scape when his stupid plays doesn't work.

Kyle fell in love w/the kid on one play from his work out and that's when he rolled to the left and launched a 63 yard completion to the WR... that's what convinced Kyle to go after this kid.. now that Lance shows some struggle and inaccuracy, his reps started to make some noises that M.Jones was the one he had in mind all along..

The next question now should be, which RB will Runner Up Kyle be taken w/our first pick in the 3rd round.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I always said that Brock had to beat Hurts and Mahomes for him to be the unquestioned starter next year but he didn't get that chance

Now Lance and Purdy will duke it out for starter this off-season.

Mahomes and Hurts represent the superstar ceilings that Lance was drafted to reach yet still Purdy demonstrated he was elite as a rookie could be in this system on schedule and that he could create respectably off schedule but I have not in his short time starting a superstar's potential

Brady never looked like one either yet he had a superstar's results!

We will get some answers this season about both guys and I'm optimistic barring successful recovery for both our young QBs. 22 and 23 years old

Winning the SB as a rookie was quite the measuring stick you and Ezekiel placed on Purdy.

What type of success would you need to see from Lance as a 3rd year Vet to remain the unquestioned starter? if he gets the nod.

They have a much lower bar for Trey_ning wheels. 5 - 12 record would be unquestioned starter for them.

Doubt it.

Ezekiel was not impressed by Purdys run because he didn't light it up vs a top defense like Cowboys and didn't win the SB.

If that's the standard they place on Mr Irrelevant, I'm interested in hearing that they want to see from Mr. 3rd overall.

They is the 49ers. We canned Harbaugh because as Jed said making the NFCCG game three times and a Super Bowl ain't the standard. Winning the chip is

We are moving on from Jimmy because stat stacking and getting to a Super Bowl and two NFCCG wasn't enough with all the injuries and the losses to more talented QBs because it certainly wasn't more talented teams. We didn't win the chip because we felt the opposing QBs made plays and broke the backs of our defense at key times and we didn't all playoffs with Jimmy under center

Trey was drafted to groom into being the playmaker at QB that will break the backs of defenses when it counts. The standard fare at QB hasn't worked for us so Kyle said screw it, I need a star at the position that can do for me what Russell Wilson has done to us

This is why I was rooting for my team to win it all because that's what a fan does and yet I knew that as unfair as it was to a rookie it was unfair to a guy that hasn't played as much as and is younger than our rookie on this team in this moment. I knew Brock had to win to avoid any inkling of a QB competition because not different from boxing you don't win many decisions off the one holding the belt. You have to be decisive or get that knockout blow to take the belt

As to Kittle saying it's Brock's job to lose:

First it was Trey's job to lose. The he lost it due to injury after his first 1.5 games as QB1. Then it was Jimmy's as he ripped off a ton of consecutive wins and got the team rolling . Then it was Brock's after he inherited a hot team with an offense fully in sync then tore up the league at record once for a rookie being just an injury away from the Super Bowl

The NFL is not for long. Your best ability can be your availability and this summer Trey is gonna be available and Brock is not so as of right now my young Kittle this is once again Trey's job to lose as Brock won't return until 6 months from 2/22/23.

Late August if Trey stays healthy he will have positioned himself as QB1 having taken all the reps with Kyle having tailored the offense to his strengths and then Brock will need to come in and reassert himself and take command of the team from Trey as it will then be his job to lose

We are not here to give a job to anyone. There will be an off-season and the position must be decided and earned and we have two good young guys to get it done and I'm certain we'll draft another guy with 11 picks and groom him and make that room better. We are tired of having the best team and finishing without the Lombardi and we'll play no favorites. This is a what have you done for me lately operation and right now as Trey heals up it's his turn to show and prove and if he can't Brock will be on deck as soon as he's medically cleared

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If Trey is the starter expect a high pick in 2024. I believe we finally do have our high picks back starting that year.

If Trey is the starter I'd assume he earned it. If Brock is the starter I'd say he earned it. If we win a Super Bowl I'd say the starting QB will have cemented his status

"It's Brock's job to lose" - George Kittle on the 49ers' QB situation

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Was Kittle the anonymous player that leaked this to Maiocco?

"I think there will be a lot of pissed off people in this locker room if Brock Purdy is not the starter next season." — Matt Maiocco

The link to listen to Matt's podcast below:https://t.co/477P0M3e5p pic.twitter.com/HrycWsf050

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) February 2, 2023

The vast vast majority of the team members probably felt that way, so it is hard to tell whether that was Kittle.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I always said that Brock had to beat Hurts and Mahomes for him to be the unquestioned starter next year but he didn't get that chance

Now Lance and Purdy will duke it out for starter this off-season.

Mahomes and Hurts represent the superstar ceilings that Lance was drafted to reach yet still Purdy demonstrated he was elite as a rookie could be in this system on schedule and that he could create respectably off schedule but I have not in his short time starting a superstar's potential

Brady never looked like one either yet he had a superstar's results!

We will get some answers this season about both guys and I'm optimistic barring successful recovery for both our young QBs. 22 and 23 years old

Winning the SB as a rookie was quite the measuring stick you and Ezekiel placed on Purdy.

What type of success would you need to see from Lance as a 3rd year Vet to remain the unquestioned starter? if he gets the nod.

They have a much lower bar for Trey_ning wheels. 5 - 12 record would be unquestioned starter for them.

Doubt it.

Ezekiel was not impressed by Purdys run because he didn't light it up vs a top defense like Cowboys and didn't win the SB.

If that's the standard they place on Mr Irrelevant, I'm interested in hearing that they want to see from Mr. 3rd overall.

They is the 49ers. We canned Harbaugh because as Jed said making the NFCCG game three times and a Super Bowl ain't the standard. Winning the chip is

We are moving on from Jimmy because stat stacking and getting to a Super Bowl and two NFCCG wasn't enough with all the injuries and the losses to more talented QBs because it certainly wasn't more talented teams. We didn't win the chip because we felt the opposing QBs made plays and broke the backs of our defense at key times and we didn't all playoffs with Jimmy under center

Trey was drafted to groom into being the playmaker at QB that will break the backs of defenses when it counts. The standard fare at QB hasn't worked for us so Kyle said screw it, I need a star at the position that can do for me what Russell Wilson has done to us

This is why I was rooting for my team to win it all because that's what a fan does and yet I knew that as unfair as it was to a rookie it was unfair to a guy that hasn't played as much as and is younger than our rookie on this team in this moment. I knew Brock had to win to avoid any inkling of a QB competition because not different from boxing you don't win many decisions off the one holding the belt. You have to be decisive or get that knockout blow to take the belt

As to Kittle saying it's Brock's job to lose:

First it was Trey's job to lose. The he lost it due to injury after his first 1.5 games as QB1. Then it was Jimmy's as he ripped off a ton of consecutive wins and got the team rolling . Then it was Brock's after he inherited a hot team with an offense fully in sync then tore up the league at record once for a rookie being just an injury away from the Super Bowl

The NFL is not for long. Your best ability can be your availability and this summer Trey is gonna be available and Brock is not so as of right now my young Kittle this is once again Trey's job to lose as Brock won't return until 6 months from 2/22/23.

Late August if Trey stays healthy he will have positioned himself as QB1 having taken all the reps with Kyle having tailored the offense to his strengths and then Brock will need to come in and reassert himself and take command of the team from Trey as it will then be his job to lose

We are not here to give a job to anyone. There will be an off-season and the position must be decided and earned and we have two good young guys to get it done and I'm certain we'll draft another guy with 11 picks and groom him and make that room better. We are tired of having the best team and finishing without the Lombardi and we'll play no favorites. This is a what have you done for me lately operation and right now as Trey heals up it's his turn to show and prove and if he can't Brock will be on deck as soon as he's medically cleared

Didn't answer my question though.

Bold is as close as you got but didn't really say how he can show and prove it.

For Purdy it was winning the SB as a rookie.

So for Lance, what type of success would you need to see from Lance as a 3rd year Vet to remain the unquestioned starter? if he gets the nod.

Edit - after re-reading, it seems SB win is also the measuring stick for Lance. Am I understanding correctly?

Originally posted by 9moon:
JOE KNOWS FOOTBALL... He knows that stupid Runner Up Kyle only wanted Duck City Lance because of his Mahomes type of arm and ability to scape when his stupid plays doesn't work.

Kyle fell in love w/the kid on one play from his work out and that's when he rolled to the left and launched a 63 yard completion to the WR... that's what convinced Kyle to go after this kid.. now that Lance shows some struggle and inaccuracy, his reps started to make some noises that M.Jones was the one he had in mind all along..

The next question now should be, which RB will Runner Up Kyle be taken w/our first pick in the 3rd round.

Yeah he does know football, I am not expecting him to have faith in Lance. I don't give a s**t who starts, as long as they play well.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Was Kittle the anonymous player that leaked this to Maiocco?

"I think there will be a lot of pissed off people in this locker room if Brock Purdy is not the starter next season." — Matt Maiocco

The link to listen to Matt's podcast below:https://t.co/477P0M3e5p pic.twitter.com/HrycWsf050

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) February 2, 2023

The vast vast majority of the team members probably felt that way, so it is hard to tell whether that was Kittle.

That may be true. It at least gives credence to Maiocco report, that people dismissed as BS.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If Trey is the starter expect a high pick in 2024. I believe we finally do have our high picks back starting that year.

I almost forgot what it's like to have a first round pick

Trey will have his opportunity to win the starting job this offseason. The more Purdy is out the better chances he will have. Rather you are team Purdy or team Trey, its going to be Trey who will be leading the offseason workouts. Its going to be up to him to come to camp and be ready to beat out Purdy if he is healthy.

If Brock isnt healthy by camp the next 5,000 pages of this thread and the Purdy thread will be irrelevant.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
what about the whole 11 v 11 thesis which was the reason he was selected.. out the window?

that thesis sucks. 49ers can't even get through a season when 10vs11 with Brock and Jimmy at QB. Much less having a QB running power runs up the middle.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 9moon:
JOE KNOWS FOOTBALL... He knows that stupid Runner Up Kyle only wanted Duck City Lance because of his Mahomes type of arm and ability to scape when his stupid plays doesn't work.

Kyle fell in love w/the kid on one play from his work out and that's when he rolled to the left and launched a 63 yard completion to the WR... that's what convinced Kyle to go after this kid.. now that Lance shows some struggle and inaccuracy, his reps started to make some noises that M.Jones was the one he had in mind all along..

The next question now should be, which RB will Runner Up Kyle be taken w/our first pick in the 3rd round.

Yeah he does know football, I am not expecting him to have faith in Lance. I don't give a s**t who starts, as long as they play well.

... as long as they play well and win... that's the bottom line !!

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Didn't answer my question though.

Bold is as close as you got but didn't really say how he can show and prove it.

For Purdy it was winning the SB as a rookie.

So for Lance, what type of success would you need to see from Lance as a 3rd year Vet to remain the unquestioned starter? if he gets the nod.

Edit - after re-reading, it seems SB win is also the measuring stick for Lance. Am I understanding correctly?

Yes.

It is the same standard for Trey as it is for Brock as it was for Jimmy as it was for Harbaugh as it will be for Kyle.

One thing I can say about Jed is he is hell bent on actually winning the chip and not being the best on paper and coming close but actually winning the thing.

Right now it seems Trey will be healthy for the offseason to take reps. I still think we draft a guy either mid round or late to push Trey and when he is healthy Brock because we need three guys. Lance will not be the unquestioned QB1 of the future until he wins it all. He can be QB1 just the same as Brock but until he wins he will be looking over his shoulder as it should be.

This job is not a charity of a giveaway because we have a good guy. We are desperate to win and we will always play the best available guy in order to make that happen regardless of what players and fans say. Adding a Lombardi is the only thing that matters!