Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I see TL starting week 1..

Not a chance, barring any setbacks or a longer recovery time, you'll see Purdy under center Week 1.

And you should all come to terms with it.

I am legit impressed you contradicted yourself while mid first sentence. Well done.

The only way I see Purdy starting is if he's way ahead of schedule and he's looks good during practices.

If the timeline is still mid/late August, there's no reason to rush him back. Let him get fully healed and back in football shape before throwing him out there. It would be absolutely stupid to rush him back and I doubt Kyle is going to do that.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Koldo:
I can see it already:

"This is the best Lance has ever looked"

Eh! That wasn't the case last year. Last year was about how inaccurate he was. Then there'd be a video of one nice pass and we completely forget the other 14 passes charted.

I just don't see any way you can start this guy. He's not ready like Montana said. Inaccuracy is really bad. Were you not on this guy from the beginning? I hoped for the best. But I did lean a little more Fields if you wanted an athletic running QB. He was even more athletic and the big time program at Ohio State and everything too.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just don't see any way you can start this guy. He's not ready like Montana said. Inaccuracy is really bad. Were you not on this guy from the beginning? I hoped for the best. But I did lean a little more Fields if you wanted an athletic running QB. He was even more athletic and the big time program at Ohio State and everything too.

No I was not. I too rathered Fields than Lance. I was all in on Mac. I did eventually flipped to Fields by a whisker until his epilepsy thing came out then went back to Mac

If Lance "is not ready" then when will he be?

year 3, with legitimate questions whether he can be a NFL QB, ridiculous ….it's going to be a long 7 months

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just don't see any way you can start this guy. He's not ready like Montana said. Inaccuracy is really bad. Were you not on this guy from the beginning? I hoped for the best. But I did lean a little more Fields if you wanted an athletic running QB. He was even more athletic and the big time program at Ohio State and everything too.

No I was not. I too rathered Fields than Lance. I was all in on Mac. I did eventually flipped to Fields by a whisker until his epilepsy thing came out then went back to Mac

That's probably what dropped Fields. It was a medical flag. Epilepsy which is controlled. But it scared some teams away picking high. Trey was such a question mark project with very little football experience. That's how he plays too. I hoped for the best. But I'm not sure I understand it.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And if Brock turns into a FQB?

I will take it because we've not had one for a minute. We thought we had that guy with Jimmy until we traded for Trey

I was all in on Jimmy after his 1st 5 games. Never really questioned if he was the guy until the '19 playoffs. Cautiously optimistic about Purdy in the same way, but gotta see him not only get back to it post surgery, but sustain it. If we see FQB material out of Trey as well, not only will the team be in great shape, the Webzone will be absolute bananas!

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's probably what dropped Fields. It was a medical flag. Epilepsy which is controlled. But it scared some teams away picking high. Trey was such a question mark project with very little football experience. That's how he plays too. I hoped for the best. But I'm not sure I understand it.

They fell inlove with the person Trey is. You can have all the physical tools in the world but if you aren't wired right mentally you won't be successful. Mac Jones would have been a disaster, The guy has a bunch of character flaws and his arm is worse than Jimmy's and he can't move at all. I still believe Trey will be a star in this league. I just hope it's with the Niners. People just need to be patient.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I see TL starting week 1..

Not a chance, barring any setbacks or a longer recovery time, you'll see Purdy under center Week 1.

And you should all come to terms with it.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's probably what dropped Fields. It was a medical flag. Epilepsy which is controlled. But it scared some teams away picking high. Trey was such a question mark project with very little football experience. That's how he plays too. I hoped for the best. But I'm not sure I understand it.

They fell inlove with the person Trey is. You can have all the physical tools in the world but if you aren't wired right mentally you won't be successful. Mac Jones would have been a disaster, The guy has a bunch of character flaws and his arm is worse than Jimmy's and he can't move at all. I still believe Trey will be a star in this league. I just hope it's with the Niners. People just need to be patient.

I don't see the accuracy and mechanics. He also definitely doesn't read the field very well. Reading the field could possibly improve over time. But the throwing accuracy and mechanics are just so bad. Top it off he's not really the athlete he was hyped up to be. Not that blazing of football speed at least. He didn't run so any claims are just speculation as to what his 40 time is. But it's clearly slower than the hype IMO. He mostly gets popped and doesn't reach the corner or outside edges when running around. In game speed he gets run down a lot. Way more than Justin Fields or Lamar Jackson. That's for sure.

My issue isn't with Trey per se. It's that we took that big of a gamble on a player that was that raw and had so little film available. 2020 was a dead year because of covid. That's the kind of time when moving down in the draft is better unless you are sure you have a good thing.

Now John and Kyle may have thought that Trey was a lock. I still hope they are correct. I think we all know what we have in Brock. So if Lance is able to take the job this off season, it means he impressed the heck out of the coaches.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just don't see any way you can start this guy. He's not ready like Montana said. Inaccuracy is really bad. Were you not on this guy from the beginning? I hoped for the best. But I did lean a little more Fields if you wanted an athletic running QB. He was even more athletic and the big time program at Ohio State and everything too.

Really? Montana said the same thing last year and he started then. Whether you agree with it or not, it's actually quite easy to see.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't see the accuracy and mechanics. He also definitely doesn't read the field very well. Reading the field could possibly improve over time. But the throwing accuracy and mechanics are just so bad. Top it off he's not really the athlete he was hyped up to be. Not that blazing of football speed at least. He didn't run so any claims are just speculation as to what his 40 time is. But it's clearly slower than the hype IMO. He mostly gets popped and doesn't reach the corner or outside edges when running around. In game speed he gets run down a lot. Way more than Justin Fields or Lamar Jackson. That's for sure.

Actually he reads the field pretty good. The majority of the time he is throwing the ball to the right player. As for his running he was never meant to be Lamar or Fields. Kyle prefered him over Fields because he felt Trey was more comfortable in the pocket than Fields is. Fields is a run 1st QB and Kyle doesn't want that. He wants a pocket passer that can run.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just don't see any way you can start this guy. He's not ready like Montana said. Inaccuracy is really bad. Were you not on this guy from the beginning? I hoped for the best. But I did lean a little more Fields if you wanted an athletic running QB. He was even more athletic and the big time program at Ohio State and everything too.

Really? Montana said the same thing last year and he started then. Whether you agree with it or not, it's actually quite easy to see.

Yeah and how did that work out for you? He got beat by Justin Fields throwing to scrubs like Dante Pettis. Dropping early games cost us the #1 seed. Road game in Philly and you saw the results. If you win some early games you don't need to win so many in a row at the end to have a good season and good seed in the playoffs.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's probably what dropped Fields. It was a medical flag. Epilepsy which is controlled. But it scared some teams away picking high. Trey was such a question mark project with very little football experience. That's how he plays too. I hoped for the best. But I'm not sure I understand it.

They fell inlove with the person Trey is. You can have all the physical tools in the world but if you aren't wired right mentally you won't be successful. Mac Jones would have been a disaster, The guy has a bunch of character flaws and his arm is worse than Jimmy's and he can't move at all. I still believe Trey will be a star in this league. I just hope it's with the Niners. People just need to be patient.

I don't see the accuracy and mechanics. He also definitely doesn't read the field very well. Reading the field could possibly improve over time. But the throwing accuracy and mechanics are just so bad. Top it off he's not really the athlete he was hyped up to be. Not that blazing of football speed at least. He didn't run so any claims are just speculation as to what his 40 time is. But it's clearly slower than the hype IMO. He mostly gets popped and doesn't reach the corner or outside edges when running around. In game speed he gets run down a lot. Way more than Justin Fields or Lamar Jackson. That's for sure.

It's funny that Kyle decided to start Trey last season but for some reason he's not ready now. He had 2 starts and one was in terrible weather. Soggy field, rain and wind. Neither team could do much. Other than the busted coverage when Fields found a receiver left wide open downfield. That's hardly enough to evaluate a QB. If it was then Peyton Manning, John Elway and Trevor Lawrence would never have seen a 2nd season. If they can give O linemen 2 or 3 full seasons they sure as hell can do the same for a QB that they used a lot of draft capital to get.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I don't see the accuracy and mechanics. He also definitely doesn't read the field very well. Reading the field could possibly improve over time. But the throwing accuracy and mechanics are just so bad. Top it off he's not really the athlete he was hyped up to be. Not that blazing of football speed at least. He didn't run so any claims are just speculation as to what his 40 time is. But it's clearly slower than the hype IMO. He mostly gets popped and doesn't reach the corner or outside edges when running around. In game speed he gets run down a lot. Way more than Justin Fields or Lamar Jackson. That's for sure.

Actually he reads the field pretty good. The majority of the time he is throwing the ball to the right player. As for his running he was never meant to be Lamar or Fields. Kyle prefered him over Fields because he felt Trey was more comfortable in the pocket than Fields is. Fields is a run 1st QB and Kyle doesn't want that. He wants a pocket passer that can run.

He doesn't look like much of a pocket passer to me. His mechanics and accuracy are terrible. 48% is awful. He doesn't go through his reads and progressions really well. I don't see a lot in the pocket so far that amazes me. It's sub par.