Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
SD posts about as well as Mac Jones tackles legally.

Or as well as Trey throws accurately

You can't win with inaccuracy like that. But you can win with Brock Purdy. That's been proven.

What inaccuracy? When Trey has not played in a monsoon, he's looked good. For f**ks sake you all would just rather be right than root for one of our players. I say this again, because it bears repeating. You don't have to dislike all but one QB on the roster.

I understand why some fans are disappointed about Trey. The injuries have slowed his progress and we live in an age of instant gratification. What I don't understand is why people are so quick to give up on him and trade him. That would leave the team with a QB coming off arm surgery that may or may not be as good as he was. Nobody can say for sure if he can duplicate his success even if he didn't have the arm surgery. If they traded Trey they would need to find a veteran that would have to learn the system and draft another QB. I don't see the Niners going into next season with that much uncertainty.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
When you put it that way...

Brock had CMC and Kittle in his first start. Those guys make the offense better and they win a lot of games when they play. Not to take anything away from Brock he played well but he did have the benefit of playing with those guys and also having Kyle in his bag with the play calling. We should see if Brock can still win without CMC or Kittle playing.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
SD posts about as well as Mac Jones tackles legally.

Or as well as Trey throws accurately

You can't win with inaccuracy like that. But you can win with Brock Purdy. That's been proven.

What inaccuracy? When Trey has not played in a monsoon, he's looked good. For f**ks sake you all would just rather be right than root for one of our players. I say this again, because it bears repeating. You don't have to dislike all but one QB on the roster.

He hits 48% completion. Brock Purdy and Jimmy G are closer to 70% completion. You can't win in the NFL like that.

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Brock had CMC and Kittle in his first start. Those guys make the offense better and they win a lot of games when they play. Not to take anything away from Brock he played well but he did have the benefit of playing with those guys and also having Kyle in his bag with the play calling. We should see if Brock can still win without CMC or Kittle playing.

So what you're saying then is.... Trey needs a perfect situation? Trey needs an elite supporting cast?

Just more irony!

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Brock had CMC and Kittle in his first start. Those guys make the offense better and they win a lot of games when they play. Not to take anything away from Brock he played well but he did have the benefit of playing with those guys and also having Kyle in his bag with the play calling. We should see if Brock can still win without CMC or Kittle playing.

So what you're saying then is.... Trey needs a perfect situation? Trey needs an elite supporting cast?

Just more irony!

Yeah that is ironic. Also Purdy hits Aiyuk and Elijah Mitchell just fine. He hits all the players.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
SD posts about as well as Mac Jones tackles legally.

Or as well as Trey throws accurately

You can't win with inaccuracy like that. But you can win with Brock Purdy. That's been proven.

What inaccuracy? When Trey has not played in a monsoon, he's looked good. For f**ks sake you all would just rather be right than root for one of our players. I say this again, because it bears repeating. You don't have to dislike all but one QB on the roster.

He hits 48% completion. Brock Purdy and Jimmy G are closer to 70% completion. You can't win in the NFL like that.

Just go play with your coloring book already

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
It's hard to have a conversation with some people who's whole argument is well "He is not accurate right now which means he never will be" How do you have a discussion when that is the whole thought process?

22 years old and has started 4 games. Making a career judgement off that is just rediculous.

Also hard to have a conversation when the whole thought process is he's 22 years old.

When Brock Purdy was 22 years old he was beating The 🐐 in his 1st career start. He was on the road beating the 12's in his 2nd start.

See how dumb the he's only 22 years old argument is?

As I said before, Trey was drafted for his physical traits. His strong arm and running ability. Yet we want him to throw softer and run less. All the while, HOPING he can learn to play as good as the guy everyone wanted to replace.

Brock Purdy is a unicorn. His success after being thrown into the mix doesn't negate that some guys just need more time to figure out the most complicated position in pro sports. For f**k's sake you can root for more than one QB on the roster, you know? Or is this hard stance on Trey just an extension on your sour grapes that Mac f**king Jones was not our pick?

It's definitely your last sentence. Anyone who was all in on Mac Jones is disqualified from having an opinion worth taking seriously.

Same with anyone who makes career judgments about a dude who has started 3 games and completion % not taking into account a 3 game sample size or a horrific weather game.

No one can know if Trey wasn't about to light it up vs the Seahawks for 30+ before he got his ankle destroyed. We were driving and a TD on that drive and we put up 10 points on our first two possessions and still in the 1st quarter.

The extrapolation from a super limited sample is mindblowingly insane. Clearly peeps never took statistics in college and would have been 100% been making declarative judgments about the ability or lack thereof of Josh Allen and Manning and Elway etc after their first season.

Originally posted by Chance:
Brock Purdy is a unicorn. His success after being thrown into the mix doesn't negate that some guys just need more time to figure out the most complicated position in pro sports. For f**k's sake you can root for more than one QB on the roster, you know? Or is this hard stance on Trey just an extension on your sour grapes that Mac f**king Jones was not our pick?

While yes Mac was my top choice. My stance truly was anyone but Trey. So not taking Mac f**cking Jones has nothing to do with it. Taking Trey f**cking Lance has everything to do with it.

After seeing purdy, it's clear to me Lance just doesn't have it. He's slow in his decision making, he has a slow release, he's not a fluid runner, he's not a powerful runner, he's not accurate on short throws, and most of all he's not confident. A successful qb needs to have confidence.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
It's definitely your last sentence. Anyone who was all in on Mac Jones is disqualified from having an opinion worth taking seriously.

Same with anyone who makes career judgments about a dude who has started 3 games and completion % not taking into account a 3 game sample size or a horrific weather game.

No one can know if Trey wasn't about to light it up vs the Seahawks for 30+ before he got his ankle destroyed. We were driving and a TD on that drive and we put up 10 points on our first two possessions and still in the 1st quarter.

The extrapolation from a super limited sample is mindblowingly insane. Clearly peeps never took statistics in college and would have been 100% been making declarative judgments about the ability or lack thereof of Josh Allen and Manning and Elway etc after their first season.

Only career judgement i made on Trey is the same as I have made on anyone. When it comes to accuracy you either got it or you don't.

I don't think Trey is a bust. He just doesn't have the traits that I personally like. The traits he does have are the traits posters like you & NY85 like. Just not my cup of tea.

Can you win with Trey? I believe you can. The offense just wouldn't look like the offense Kyle typically runs. Nor the kind of offense I want to watch.

Originally posted by krizay:
Only career judgement i made on Trey is the same as I have made on anyone. When it comes to accuracy you either got it or you don't.

I don't think Trey is a bust. He just doesn't have the traits that I personally like. The traits he does have are the traits posters like you & NY85 like. Just not my cup of tea.

Can you win with Trey? I believe you can. The offense just wouldn't look like the offense Kyle typically runs. Nor the kind of offense I want to watch.

You either got it or you don't unless you are among the many examples who have improved it over time. Including Drew Brees who you pretend wasn't inaccurate in San Diego because of some write up about his accuracy in college in an offense that was completely different than what he was playing in the pros.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
You either got it or you don't unless you are among the many examples who have improved it over time. Including Drew Brees who you pretend wasn't inaccurate in San Diego because of some write up about his accuracy in college in an offense that was completely different than what he was playing in the pros.

We are allowed to agree to disagree. It's fine to have differing opinions.

I didn't want Mac Jones. Being that he went 15 that would've been one of the worst reaches in the first round EVER based on what was given up.

Yet if he was a 9er I'd actually root for him to succeed because he's a 9er. Rooting for failure so you can be right about your own teams player is just sad to me.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I didn't want Mac Jones. Being that he went 15 that would've been one of the worst reaches in the first round EVER based on what was given up.

Yet if he was a 9er I'd actually root for him to succeed because he's a 9er. Rooting for failure so you can be right about your own teams player is just sad to me.

I rooted for Trey. No matter how many times I had to watch a 3 yard dive. When he makes his one good pass play a game I root for more of it. I just never seem to get it