Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
If you're observing you'd see that Trey is a helluva worker so I'm optimistic that he will be ready and I see this going well for us. Same as I would say for Brock and that same I used to say and believe for Alex Smith. That's because all I ever heard about was how hard they've worked at it

Have you been hearing Trey doesn't work?

I was going to edit my post and include that because i knew thst was going to be the response.

That isn't my issue with Trey. He clearly does. My issue is he is still working on the basics. Been rumored he's essentially been working on it fir 3-4 years now and here we are people still talking about what he can still learn.

IMO When you have to focus on the basics like him you can't focus on the things that make you a great QB.

What he is trying to learn now are what most QBs have figured out before they leave college. If not, they then struggle to make the leap.

Not saying you can't win with a limited QB. You can definitely do it. Trent Dilfer, Jalen Hurts, Joe Flacco and Kaepernick prove you don't have to be a good passer to take your team to the Superbowl. It can be done in multitude of ways. I just don't see greatness with Trey.

To answer your question again. By all accounts Trey does work his ass off.

. "My issue is he is still working on the basics." Where did you hear this? When? It appears that the rumor mill is grinding out a lot of dubious information about the kid.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
we have seen Kyle and John botch multiple first round picks so that doesn't help as well. Not saying Lance is a bust, just talking about their track record regarding 1st round picks.

bold - doesn't make me feel any better, he proved to be a big waste of time lol

underline - that's a pretty big difference there. Tough to sell "learning on the fly" when you have a very capable player ready now, that players are vouching for.

Didn't know Purdy was vastly more capable than the other two until he played. Sometimes a chance via circumstance is needed.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
we have seen Kyle and John botch multiple first round picks so that doesn't help as well. Not saying Lance is a bust, just talking about their track record regarding 1st round picks.

bold - doesn't make me feel any better, he proved to be a big waste of time lol

underline - that's a pretty big difference there. Tough to sell "learning on the fly" when you have a very capable player ready now, that players are vouching for.

Didn't know Purdy was vastly more capable than the other two until he played. Sometimes a chance via circumstance is needed.

Based on what we've seen. Lance is getting another opportunity to show he's worth the 3 first and 3rd. Let's hope he takes advantage of it this time.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
covered that

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
we have seen Kyle and John botch multiple first round picks so that doesn't help as well. Not saying Lance is a bust, just talking about their track record regarding 1st round picks.

bold - doesn't make me feel any better, he proved to be a big waste of time lol

underline - that's a pretty big difference there. Tough to sell "learning on the fly" when you have a very capable player ready now, that players are vouching for.

That player has yet to undergo surgery then he must rehab and once cleared get up to game speed and ready to play in an NFL game again

Meanwhile the players we have healthy will have to prepare for the season with Trey as QB1

Originally posted by JTB1974:
The Trey haters acting iike the Texans game didn't happen. He completed 69% of his passes that game. In a must win game. Ended up with a 116.0 RTG. And while he only completed 50% of his passes vs the Seahawks after coming in for an injured Jimmy he had almost 200 yards of offense in just a half of football and ended up with RTG of 117.1. So really he was good in 2 of the 4 games where he played atleast half the game. And 1 of those games where he wasn't good in was a monsoon. But yes apparently he has only made 1 decent throw a game lol. There is a youtube video out there that shows about 40 decent plays he made in the 2021 season. That's quite abit when he only played 2 1/2 games. But acording to his haters he probally only made 2 or 3 that year.

He had zero points in the first half. He had one good pass to deebo. And he threw a game sealing pass into the dirt. It's embarrassing that we have to look at this game for hope. Here. Listen to this man.

"I think Trey is an amazing guy to push (Purdy)," Bosa continued. "I'm excited to see where [Lance's] career goes, and if he's the backup for us, then we have a really good backup."

https://share.newsbreak.com/31bughso

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
we have seen Kyle and John botch multiple first round picks so that doesn't help as well. Not saying Lance is a bust, just talking about their track record regarding 1st round picks.

bold - doesn't make me feel any better, he proved to be a big waste of time lol

underline - that's a pretty big difference there. Tough to sell "learning on the fly" when you have a very capable player ready now, that players are vouching for.

That player has yet to undergo surgery then he must rehab and once cleared get up to game speed and ready to play in an NFL game again

Meanwhile the players we have healthy will have to prepare for the season with Trey as QB1

There are options though.

Right now, I bet lynchie is having daily phone convo's with shanny asking him to consider what's in the best interest of the team.

And Garpo's agent is having the same conversation with Jimmy.

It stinks, it's stupendous.

its incredible, its flabbergasting.

it's the best of times its the worst of times

its yin its yang

its the agony and the ecstasy.

this is how co-dependency rolls for good or bad .

All 2023 49er roads lead to one invevitable, undeniable, incontrovertible destination.

The locker room demands it.

The qb room demands it.

Our playoff calculations demand it.

We have to renew our qb insurance policy for one more season.

don't shoot the messenger please.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
we have seen Kyle and John botch multiple first round picks so that doesn't help as well. Not saying Lance is a bust, just talking about their track record regarding 1st round picks.

bold - doesn't make me feel any better, he proved to be a big waste of time lol

underline - that's a pretty big difference there. Tough to sell "learning on the fly" when you have a very capable player ready now, that players are vouching for.

That player has yet to undergo surgery then he must rehab and once cleared get up to game speed and ready to play in an NFL game again

Meanwhile the players we have healthy will have to prepare for the season with Trey as QB1

I pretty much agree with this. The team seems like they'll support whoever's under center. So much noise in this thread that is based on fan preference... It's tiresome.

Assuming Purdy gets healthy during the first half of the season, what would you need to see from Lance for him to keep the starting gig? And how long would you give him to show it? (Asking you specifically because I respect your takes.)

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
The Trey haters acting iike the Texans game didn't happen. He completed 69% of his passes that game. In a must win game. Ended up with a 116.0 RTG. And while he only completed 50% of his passes vs the Seahawks after coming in for an injured Jimmy he had almost 200 yards of offense in just a half of football and ended up with RTG of 117.1. So really he was good in 2 of the 4 games where he played atleast half the game. And 1 of those games where he wasn't good in was a monsoon. But yes apparently he has only made 1 decent throw a game lol. There is a youtube video out there that shows about 40 decent plays he made in the 2021 season. That's quite abit when he only played 2 1/2 games. But acording to his haters he probally only made 2 or 3 that year.

He had zero points in the first half. He had one good pass to deebo. And he threw a game sealing pass into the dirt. It's embarrassing that we have to look at this game for hope. Here. Listen to this man.

"I think Trey is an amazing guy to push (Purdy)," Bosa continued. "I'm excited to see where [Lance's] career goes, and if he's the backup for us, then we have a really good backup."

https://share.newsbreak.com/31bughso

I'll be awaiting to see who Trey will be backing up week 1. Care to wager anyone?

Fine, because I don't bet on any other man aside from myself.

Trey is gonna be starter all offseason and going into week one and I know that's gonna break some of you guy's heart ❤️.

As to me, I will enjoy the ride knowing we have Brock and hopefully a rookie waiting in the wings when needed

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
There are options though.

Right now, I bet lynchie is having daily phone convo's with shanny asking him to consider what's in the best interest of the team.

And Garpo's agent is having the same conversation with Jimmy.

It stinks, it's stupendous.

its incredible, its flabbergasting.

it's the best of times its the worst of times

its yin its yang

its the agony and the ecstasy.

this is how co-dependency rolls for good or bad .

All 2023 49er roads lead to one invevitable, undeniable, incontrovertible destination.

The locker room demands it.

The qb room demands it.

Our playoff calculations demand it.

We have to renew our qb insurance policy for one more season.

don't shoot the messenger please.

You ready to fork over the $20M plus annually dude is gonna command when the guy you started over him and drafted highly is available? Kyle tried to get it through you guys heads that Jimmy is DONE here!

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
I pretty much agree with this. The team seems like they'll support whoever's under center. So much noise in this thread that is based on fan preference... It's tiresome.

Assuming Purdy gets healthy during the first half of the season, what would you need to see from Lance for him to keep the starting gig? And how long would you give him to show it? (Asking you specifically because I respect your takes.)

He has to win more than he loses and if not and if Brock is healthy we will go back to Brock by the bye week. I'm hoping that sentence answers two questions

Brock put up world beater statistics though some would say Jimmy was doing the same but with Brock I saw a visible uptick in explosives and defenders had to defend more of the field and they had to respect the long ball relatively speaking

Under Trey at his best I would expect our run game to TAKE OFF! I expect 11 on 11 and I expect guys running wide open because someone has to keep an eye on Lance as a rushing threat. I expect us to use Lance like Russell Wilson with the threat of the run on QB keeps reserved until late game and big games when needed

If Lance can be what we've drafted him for I expect a TON of explosives and that is exactly why we felt the need to move on from Jimmy

If we can see this stuff more often than not Lance will keep the job this season. If we don't see most of this happening with wins as the most important factor then Brock will be ready to take over while Trey watches and learns because we know how well Brock takes his scout team reps Vs our first team defense by how he jumped right in and played for us last season

Originally posted by krizay:
While yes Mac was my top choice. My stance truly was anyone but Trey. So not taking Mac f**cking Jones has nothing to do with it. Taking Trey f**cking Lance has everything to do with it.

Dont want. You and your Pats can keep him.

Originally posted by random49er:
Dont want. You and your Pats can keep him.

It's everyone but Macs fault. He's established that. You need to watch him play the Bills down 33-3 to see his high level qb play.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
The Trey haters acting iike the Texans game didn't happen. He completed 69% of his passes that game. In a must win game. Ended up with a 116.0 RTG. And while he only completed 50% of his passes vs the Seahawks after coming in for an injured Jimmy he had almost 200 yards of offense in just a half of football and ended up with RTG of 117.1. So really he was good in 2 of the 4 games where he played atleast half the game. And 1 of those games where he wasn't good in was a monsoon. But yes apparently he has only made 1 decent throw a game lol. There is a youtube video out there that shows about 40 decent plays he made in the 2021 season. That's quite abit when he only played 2 1/2 games. But acording to his haters he probally only made 2 or 3 that year.

He had zero points in the first half. He had one good pass to deebo. And he threw a game sealing pass into the dirt. It's embarrassing that we have to look at this game for hope. Here. Listen to this man.

"I think Trey is an amazing guy to push (Purdy)," Bosa continued. "I'm excited to see where [Lance's] career goes, and if he's the backup for us, then we have a really good backup."

https://share.newsbreak.com/31bughso

Someone tell old man River that football consists of two halves

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
There are options though.

Right now, I bet lynchie is having daily phone convo's with shanny asking him to consider what's in the best interest of the team.

And Garpo's agent is having the same conversation with Jimmy.

It stinks, it's stupendous.

its incredible, its flabbergasting.

it's the best of times its the worst of times

its yin its yang

its the agony and the ecstasy.

this is how co-dependency rolls for good or bad .

All 2023 49er roads lead to one invevitable, undeniable, incontrovertible destination.

The locker room demands it.

The qb room demands it.

Our playoff calculations demand it.

We have to renew our qb insurance policy for one more season.

don't shoot the messenger please.

No one demands it but you.