Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I just take it as projection on their behalf. They most likely have been rooting against Jimmy for the past few years and believe everyone is that way about Lance.

I have always stated that that I support whoever gets this teams wins.

I support whoever is on the field trying to help us win. Doesn't mean I expect every player to "hold their water". Which includes pretty much everyone in the secondary not named Chavarius Ward.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I just take it as projection on their behalf. They most likely have been rooting against Jimmy for the past few years and believe everyone is that way about Lance.

I have always stated that that I support whoever gets this teams wins.

Hardly. It's just guys like you that would hall monitor the Jimmy thread but have zero issue with Trey lunch and Treyning wheels being posted.

Why the different standards?

Nobody wanted Jimmy to fail. Many like myself just didn't think he had it in him to succeed. Why? 50 plus starts as a 9er.

To have that same opinion of a guy with 4 is crazy.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Imagine Bills fans minimizing Allens play because he didn't shred every team in the playoffs and/or win a SB by now.

I won't minimize Brock's play because he's been outstanding just as Jimmy was. Brock I feel was better than Jimmy in the playoffs but we didn't win the chip.

Because of that we have a QB competition. We will give a job to a guy permanently once he wins it all. Since that hasn't happened yet Trey will get his turn because Brock can't compete right now but if he was healthy he'd be the leader with Trey having to play catch up

Right now the position is unsettled because quite frankly Jimmy G did actually get us to a Super Bowl and neither of these guys have. The reason Jimmy is out is because he lost to Mahomes and then Stafford. Both games we were told and then shown that we had the inferior talent at QB so Kyle has since made some changes

Also I haven't seen anyone argue Trey should start over Brock. Just let them compete.

Brodie and Goatie would trade Brock and Trey in a hot second if they could extend Jimmy 5 more years.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Also I haven't seen anyone argue Trey should start over Brock. Just let them compete.

Brodie and Goatie would trade Brock and Trey in a hot second if they could extend Jimmy 5 more years.

Right

Let them compete! Right now only one can so he's gonna take all the reps and if he's not doing good come bye week Brock Purdy is on deck

I always thought we have a very intelligent fan base so I'm not understanding why some of this doesn't stick?

What else realistically are we supposed to be doing aside from handing Trey the ball right now? We are gonna give him the ball and tell him to go for it!

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I could not agree more. As before, there will be mistakes along the way, but I want to see those used as learning experiences that won't be repeated. I think part of what frustrated Kyle with Jimmy was him repeating mistakes. If Lance reaches his potential, this offense will be nearly impossible to stop. If Trey struggles in a way that displeases Kyle and/or the season looks like it could be compromised due to his play, the switch will be made.

Right. That's what Trey was drafted to do I believe some of our posters forget. He is supposed to unlock the God Mode offensively in the same ways we see Josh Allen when he has it going but where here we have more elite weaponry with the best defense to keep giving us the ball back to score more

I want to see that. I want to break records next season offensively. I want it all and the promise of Trey Lance intrigues me. Maybe it's because I know Brock is hurt but I feel great having the both of them

This is why I don't understand "fans" wanting Trey to fail. We now know the floor of our offense. If Brock turns out to be the ceiling also, we're still set! But, if Trey can take it even further, OMFG!

The issue I have with this is we don't know the floor with Lance starting. If it's consistently lower than with Purdy and we drop a few winnable games (like this season), then we run the risk of being on the road in the post season...or maybe missing it entirely. That's why I'm hesitant with Lance at this point, but we have to let his performance on the field answer that question.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I just take it as projection on their behalf. They most likely have been rooting against Jimmy for the past few years and believe everyone is that way about Lance.

I have always stated that that I support whoever gets this teams wins.

Hardly. It's just guys like you that would hall monitor the Jimmy thread but have zero issue with Trey lunch and Treyning wheels being posted.

Why the different standards?

Nobody wanted Jimmy to fail. Many like myself just didn't think he had it in him to succeed. Why? 50 plus starts as a 9er.

To have that same opinion of a guy with 4 is crazy.

Exactly why the different standards.

You had no issues with all the Jimmy pickoplo, Jimmy Garbage etc names.

Bold - sounds eerily familiar. You can state whatever reason you want for believing that, others feel they have reasons as well. Doesn't mean they are actively rooting for him to fail, just like you didn't do that with Jimmy, right? Okay then...

I'm not one of them. All I care about is getting dubs and will support whoever helps us accomplish that.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I thought the purpose was to win a SB. Or that was the standard set for Purdy. The tear he and the offense went on didn't mean anything to some because he didnt shred the cowboys and didn't win the SB.

That's the bar some are setting for Lance. Nothing he does will mean much of anything until he shreds top defenses in the playoffs in route to SB win.

that must suck for some not being able to enjoy the season and waiting around for playoffs to come for QB play to mean something.

Man! I remember to start the year someone posted its just about getting to the playoffs. Anything can happen after that. Once Brock came in.... he had to win the SB.

To unseat the #3 pick in the draft who is on the team with superior physical gifts, yes.

If Trey is not on the team then Brock obv is the guy we go with next year and beyond if he keeps playing so well.

Trey initially just get to the playoffs was the minimum for his first year starting and play well. Jimmy was going to be gone and that's all that was required at a minimum for the first year. Well now Brock shows up and shows out so now Trey needs to do more since there is another option on the team that isn't a liability and as limited like Jimmy is. So the bar is set higher because of Brock. Trey needs to stack wins and play well while he gets comfortable stringing starts together. And if he doesn't we just make the switch to Brock mid-season.

If Trey is as bad as people claim in here he will suck when he plays and it will be a clear switch back to Brock. Well let's see for ourselves instead of all these premature claims.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I thought the purpose was to win a SB. Or that was the standard set for Purdy. The tear he and the offense went on didn't mean anything to some because he didnt shred the cowboys and didn't win the SB.

That's the bar some are setting for Lance. Nothing he does will mean much of anything until he shreds top defenses in the playoffs in route to SB win.

that must suck for some not being able to enjoy the season and waiting around for playoffs to come for QB play to mean something.

Man! I remember to start the year someone posted its just about getting to the playoffs. Anything can happen after that. Once Brock came in.... he had to win the SB.

That's so f**kn true! lol

Btw, I was one those posters that believed that heading into the season with Lance. I just wanted playoffs in his second year starting.

But for some it's tearing up top defenses in playoffs and winning a SB. Quite the benchmark for a rookie lol

If you want to keep the #3 overall pick with superior physical gifts and upside on the bench and prevent his development, YES. Benchmark is quite high in that case. If it was just Jimmy and Josh Johnson obv he has already done more than enough to show he is multiples better than Jimmy and to ride or die with Brock.

Situation is nuanced.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I thought the purpose was to win a SB. Or that was the standard set for Purdy. The tear he and the offense went on didn't mean anything to some because he didnt shred the cowboys and didn't win the SB.

That's the bar some are setting for Lance. Nothing he does will mean much of anything until he shreds top defenses in the playoffs in route to SB win.

that must suck for some not being able to enjoy the season and waiting around for playoffs to come for QB play to mean something.

Man! I remember to start the year someone posted its just about getting to the playoffs. Anything can happen after that. Once Brock came in.... he had to win the SB.

To unseat the #3 pick in the draft who is on the team with superior physical gifts, yes.

If Trey is not on the team then Brock obv is the guy we go with next year and beyond if he keeps playing so well.

Trey initially just get to the playoffs was the minimum for his first year starting and play well. Jimmy was going to be gone and that's all that was required at a minimum for the first year. Well now Brock shows up and shows out so now Trey needs to do more since there is another option on the team that isn't a liability and as limited like Jimmy is. So the bar is set higher because of Brock. Trey needs to stack wins and play well while he gets comfortable stringing starts together. And if he doesn't we just make the switch to Brock mid-season.

If Trey is as bad as people claim in here he will suck when he plays and it will be a clear switch back to Brock. Well let's see for ourselves instead of all these premature claims.

At least you admit you have different standards for the two QBs.

Just find it interesting that you have a ridiculous high standard for rookie Mr Irrelevant than for Mr #3 who we used 3 first and 3rd on.

its your opinion though, and your entitled to it.

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
The issue I have with this is we don't know the floor with Lance starting. If it's consistently lower than with Purdy and we drop a few winnable games (like this season), then we run the risk of being on the road in the post season...or maybe missing it entirely. That's why I'm hesitant with Lance at this point, but we have to let his performance on the field answer that question.

Why are you rooting for him to fail?

Jk

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Also I haven't seen anyone argue Trey should start over Brock. Just let them compete.

Brodie and Goatie would trade Brock and Trey in a hot second if they could extend Jimmy 5 more years.

Ezekiel is arguing just that. Brock needed to shred the Cowboys , Eagles, and chiefs to unseat Lance.

The second part is dumb. Jimmy is gone and Lance isn't getting traded, for various reasons.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I thought the purpose was to win a SB. Or that was the standard set for Purdy. The tear he and the offense went on didn't mean anything to some because he didnt shred the cowboys and didn't win the SB.

That's the bar some are setting for Lance. Nothing he does will mean much of anything until he shreds top defenses in the playoffs in route to SB win.

that must suck for some not being able to enjoy the season and waiting around for playoffs to come for QB play to mean something.

Man! I remember to start the year someone posted its just about getting to the playoffs. Anything can happen after that. Once Brock came in.... he had to win the SB.

That's so f**kn true! lol

Btw, I was one those posters that believed that heading into the season with Lance. I just wanted playoffs in his second year starting.

But for some it's tearing up top defenses in playoffs and winning a SB. Quite the benchmark for a rookie lol

Yeah it's quite a benchmark for a rookie. Had he not torn his arm he just may have done it too. Consider that. Injury derailed us and him. Not really him losing.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Exactly why the different standards.

You had no issues with all the Jimmy pickoplo, Jimmy Garbage etc names.

Bold - sounds eerily familiar. You can state whatever reason you want for believing that, others feel they have reasons as well. Doesn't mean they are actively rooting for him to fail, just like you didn't do that with Jimmy, right? Okay then...

I'm not one of them. All I care about is getting dubs and will support whoever helps us accomplish that.

I actually don't care if people want to make themselves look stupid with juvenile nicknames. They are low iq and it shows much about the poster. But what you interpret as projection is actually just you being a hypocrite on the subject of defending qbs. You only care about the Jimmy ones.

If you don't see the difference between deciding what someone can do after 50+ starts vs 4 I don't know what to tell you. They aren't the same. The latter can only be explained by that's what you want to see happen.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Ezekiel is arguing just that. Brock needed to shred the Cowboys , Eagles, and chiefs to unseat Lance.

The second part is dumb. Jimmy is gone and Lance isn't getting traded, for various reasons.

Seems to me he was saying that for him to be the unquestioned starter.

Agree it is dumb. But they still want that. Hell Goatie would cut Lance right now if it were up to him.