Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It depends how the surgery and recovery go. If Brock is ready at the start of the season he's the starter.

The math ain't mathing

If Brock has NO offseason and is trying to whoop himself back into playing shape and we've already spent the entire offseason prepping for Trey under center as QB1 then Trey is under center week 1 until at least the bye week

Theres just NO WAY Brock can jump Trey unless Trey screws up the off-season. That ain't likely happening

Now if Trey ain't it by the bye week, THATS when I expect Brock to take over. Now we're getting to to stages of the flat earth proponents

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It depends how the surgery and recovery go. If Brock is ready at the start of the season he's the starter.

The math ain't mathing

If Brock has NO offseason and is trying to whoop himself back into playing shape and we've already spent the entire offseason prepping for Trey under center as QB1 then Trey is under center week 1 until at least the bye week

Theres just NO WAY Brock can jump Trey unless Trey screws up the off-season. That ain't likely happening

Now if Trey ain't it by the bye week, THATS when I expect Brock to take over. Now we're getting to to stages of the flat earth proponents

Expect to lose a lot of games and have a high draft pick if Trey is the starter for the first half of the season.

You can't toss out Brock with almost no off season and training camp reps. Lance more then a likely starts out the season as the starter, unless he's just god awful.

Like Brock said his goal is to rehab and get back to 100%. It's not a race to get him in there to start imo. If he truly is our FQB, then you got take care of his health and that arm. Let's not do what the shanahan's did with RG3. Learn from mistakes.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Expect to lose a lot of games and have a high draft pick if Trey is the starter for the first half of the season.

I think there's maybe a 30% chance brock is "ready to go" week1 whatever that means. By week 6 maybe there's a 60 70 chance brock is "playing regularly." It could all work out. But we should plan for contingencies also.

Who do you think gives us the best chance to play winning football while Brock rehabs? Hmm. We have to install a whole different offense for Trey. And the last few times he ran it the numbers weren't so great. I think he'll be better. Not sure it'll be good enough to play 500 football though.

Any other options?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You can't toss out Brock with almost no off season and training camp reps. Lance more then a likely starts out the season as the starter, unless he's just god awful.

Like Brock said his goal is to rehab and get back to 100%. It's not a race to get him in there to start imo. If he truly is out FQB, then you got take care of his health and that arm. Let's not do what the shanahan's did with RG3. Learn from mistakes.

Agteed. Dont rush back brock.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by 49erF90:
I also rooted for Trey when he got drafted but for some reason he reminded me of Trubisky, another highly acclaimed NFL prospect because of potential but lacked in experience and only had a few college games in his resume. Just look where Trubisky is now. I hope for the positive, I hope for the best but I am just saying.

Did trubisky have Kyle and John trade up to three to take him to the tune of three firsts? I trust our guys not to throw it all away after 4 starts being as we never did that with Alex Smith

Only difference is now there's a Super Bowl caliber roster that must be accounted for

we have seen Kyle and John botch multiple first round picks so that doesn't help as well. Not saying Lance is a bust, just talking about their track record regarding 1st round picks.

bold - doesn't make me feel any better, he proved to be a big waste of time lol

underline - that's a pretty big difference there. Tough to sell "learning on the fly" when you have a very capable player ready now, that players are vouching for.

What is their track record regarding 1st round picks?

Thomas
Froster
McGlinchey
Bosa
Kinlaw
Aiyuk
Lance

Bosa is on HOF track but he was an overall consensus #1 pick. Thank you Cardinals lol

Aiyuk is turning out to be a very good player. I expect pro bowl soon from him.

So far only 2/7 are worthy of second contract. I guess you can say great track record.

3 of 7 are worthy of a second contract. Mike McGlinchey is one of the better right tackles in the league and is going to get a nice contract from someone. In spite of what people think of him (and even I am on the let him walk and take the comp pick bandwagon), the guy is going to get paid. Not acknowledging that is a total denial of reality. So that's 3 of 7, which is pretty good since in general, average teams hit on 1/3 of their picks. And to be fair, I'd say 3 of 6- I am reserving judgment on Trey until after this season (three years is a fair timeline to judge any NFL player).

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I think there's maybe a 30% chance brock is "ready to go" week1 whatever that means. By week 6 maybe there's a 60 70 chance brock is "playing regularly." It could all work out. But we should plan for contingencies also.

Who do you think gives us the best chance to play winning football while Brock rehabs? Hmm. We have to install a whole different offense for Trey. And the last few times he ran it the numbers weren't so great. I think he'll be better. Not sure it'll be good enough to play 500 football though.

Any other options?

The guy who costs very little which allows for using money to strengthen the rest of the roster.

Already paid upwards of 20+ million a year for slightly above average play. No more of that needed.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I think there's maybe a 30% chance brock is "ready to go" week1 whatever that means. By week 6 maybe there's a 60 70 chance brock is "playing regularly." It could all work out. But we should plan for contingencies also.

Who do you think gives us the best chance to play winning football while Brock rehabs? Hmm. We have to install a whole different offense for Trey. And the last few times he ran it the numbers weren't so great. I think he'll be better. Not sure it'll be good enough to play 500 football though.

Any other options?

The guy who costs very little which allows for using money to strengthen the rest of the roster.

Already paid upwards of 20+ million a year for slightly above average play. No more of that needed.

Fair enough. Got any names?

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by 49erF90:
I also rooted for Trey when he got drafted but for some reason he reminded me of Trubisky, another highly acclaimed NFL prospect because of potential but lacked in experience and only had a few college games in his resume. Just look where Trubisky is now. I hope for the positive, I hope for the best but I am just saying.

Did trubisky have Kyle and John trade up to three to take him to the tune of three firsts? I trust our guys not to throw it all away after 4 starts being as we never did that with Alex Smith

Only difference is now there's a Super Bowl caliber roster that must be accounted for

we have seen Kyle and John botch multiple first round picks so that doesn't help as well. Not saying Lance is a bust, just talking about their track record regarding 1st round picks.

bold - doesn't make me feel any better, he proved to be a big waste of time lol

underline - that's a pretty big difference there. Tough to sell "learning on the fly" when you have a very capable player ready now, that players are vouching for.

What is their track record regarding 1st round picks?

Thomas
Froster
McGlinchey
Bosa
Kinlaw
Aiyuk
Lance

Bosa is on HOF track but he was an overall consensus #1 pick. Thank you Cardinals lol

Aiyuk is turning out to be a very good player. I expect pro bowl soon from him.

So far only 2/7 are worthy of second contract. I guess you can say great track record.

3 of 7 are worthy of a second contract. Mike McGlinchey is one of the better right tackles in the league and is going to get a nice contract from someone. In spite of what people think of him (and even I am on the let him walk and take the comp pick bandwagon), the guy is going to get paid. Not acknowledging that is a total denial of reality. So that's 3 of 7, which is pretty good since in general, average teams hit on 1/3 of their picks. And to be fair, I'd say 3 of 6- I am reserving judgment on Trey until after this season (three years is a fair timeline to judge any NFL player).

I bet Bay even hesitated to give them credit for Bosa since it was a "concensus" pick. Fans and their agendas.

I agree. So far its 3 of 6 that have turned into starting caliber players. That is actually decent when considering all the busts that come out of the 1st round league wide. Ignoring the "feels" and using actual logic, MM is still getting starter money this off season. The jury is still out on Trey. You cannot count that as a bad pick just yet.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Expect to lose a lot of games and have a high draft pick if Trey is the starter for the first half of the season.

Yeah cause he's shown he's such a bad player. Your bias against Trey is so suspect.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I think there's maybe a 30% chance brock is "ready to go" week1 whatever that means. By week 6 maybe there's a 60 70 chance brock is "playing regularly." It could all work out. But we should plan for contingencies also.

Who do you think gives us the best chance to play winning football while Brock rehabs? Hmm. We have to install a whole different offense for Trey. And the last few times he ran it the numbers weren't so great. I think he'll be better. Not sure it'll be good enough to play 500 football though.

Any other options?

Maybe take away most of the designed runs for him

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Expect to lose a lot of games and have a high draft pick if Trey is the starter for the first half of the season.

That's not what a 49er fan should say. SEA won with Geno then we can win with Trey and Kyle

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I think there's maybe a 30% chance brock is "ready to go" week1 whatever that means. By week 6 maybe there's a 60 70 chance brock is "playing regularly." It could all work out. But we should plan for contingencies also.

Who do you think gives us the best chance to play winning football while Brock rehabs? Hmm. We have to install a whole different offense for Trey. And the last few times he ran it the numbers weren't so great. I think he'll be better. Not sure it'll be good enough to play 500 football though.

Any other options?

How much football do you know and how much about today's NFL? There's no way we can't win with Trey Kyle and this team when I look around the NFL. This sounds utterly ridiculous and it wreaks of denial. Are you fans of this team or just a particular style of QB play?

I'm not watching the Super Bowl but I know darn well Trey can do at least what Hurts is doing

It's starting to sound like anybody but Trey up in this Trey Lance thread! That's what I'm starting to see. Not so much even what he can and can't do based off game observations but now it's "hey man. Can we just get anyone everyone just to make sure Trey's not under center week 1?"

Ridiculous man. And we're supposed to all be adults

Actually it's kinda funny because it's starting to sound like guys here are helpless and hopeless when they should be excited

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I think there's maybe a 30% chance brock is "ready to go" week1 whatever that means. By week 6 maybe there's a 60 70 chance brock is "playing regularly." It could all work out. But we should plan for contingencies also.

Who do you think gives us the best chance to play winning football while Brock rehabs? Hmm. We have to install a whole different offense for Trey. And the last few times he ran it the numbers weren't so great. I think he'll be better. Not sure it'll be good enough to play 500 football though.

Any other options?

How much football do you know and how much about today's NFL? There's no way we can't win with Trey Kyle and this team when I look around the NFL. This sounds utterly ridiculous and it wreaks of denial. Are you fans of this team or just a particular style of QB play?

I'm not watching the Super Bowl but I know darn well Trey can do at least what Hurts is doing

Interesting that only a certain group aren't allowed to make declarations after 4 games but others can.