Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Houston are not stupid enough to trade the #2 pick for Trey. Take that thought, bottle it, throw it in the ocean, maybe it will give someone shipwrecked on a remote island a good laugh one day.

If Houston thought enough to move a 1st for Lance, then one of our own (Ryans) clearly thinks Lance is a FQB. Why would SF think any different?

There's no point in moving Lance. He's young cheap and talented. Our other QB is getting serious ligament repairs on his throwing elbow.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Houston are not stupid enough to trade the #2 pick for Trey. Take that thought, bottle it, throw it in the ocean, maybe it will give someone shipwrecked on a remote island a good laugh one day.

If Houston thought enough to move a 1st for Lance, then one of our own (Ryans) clearly thinks Lance is a FQB. Why would SF think any different?

There's no point in moving Lance. He's young cheap and talented. Our other QB is getting serious ligament repairs on his throwing elbow.

Yup would make no sense for either side.

Houston can get a young QB on the first year of a rookie deal who isn't coming back from a broken leg.

We have ??? over whether Purdy will be healthy and our constant history of needing multiple QB's in a season, plus the cap it would cost us would be pretty substantial in the end.

100 pages later still with the Trade Lance talk.....

still just as ridiculous

The only way the team would consider trading Lance is if they could get back the draft capital they spent....and I am not even sure they would.

The 49ers are cap starved as it is, why would they take on 9-10 million in dead cap space to trade the guy?

That makes no sense

Even if they got back a top 3 pick, you now have 18 to 20 million in cap space eaten up by that transaction. Unless that guy is a Nick Bosa level rookie they just screwed the team.

2024-2025 would be the year for the trade.

My guess is he's the guy at the beginning of the season. Purdy will need some more time...

This is a perfect setup for Kyle and co.

This allows him to get another look at Lance to see what's there while not burning and bridges internally or externally for that matter. If it's horrific we fall back to Purdy.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Houston are not stupid enough to trade the #2 pick for Trey. Take that thought, bottle it, throw it in the ocean, maybe it will give someone shipwrecked on a remote island a good laugh one day.

Damn....

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
My guess is he's the guy at the beginning of the season. Purdy will need some more time...

This is a perfect setup for Kyle and co.

This allows him to get another look at Lance to see what's there while not burning and bridges internally or externally for that matter. If it's horrific we fall back to Purdy.

agreed

It is the perfect opportunity and it is rare.

You can't pass up the opportunity to go all in on Trey and see how he has grown. This is absolutely the most critical 5-6 months of Trey's career to date. He needs to be 100% football 24/7. Odds are too high that the next time the 49ers flip back to Brock the door is shut on on Trey's 49er career to risk screwing around.

Trey could come on and off the field for a few years and end up with a Rich Gannon/Alex Smith late career bloom, so his career might not be over, but if he fails to launch his career with this opportunity he could easily play himself out of SF with mediocre or worse play in TC/Pre-season.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Houston are not stupid enough to trade the #2 pick for Trey. Take that thought, bottle it, throw it in the ocean, maybe it will give someone shipwrecked on a remote island a good laugh one day.

If Houston thought enough to move a 1st for Lance, then one of our own (Ryans) clearly thinks Lance is a FQB. Why would SF think any different?

There's no point in moving Lance. He's young cheap and talented. Our other QB is getting serious ligament repairs on his throwing elbow.

Yup would make no sense for either side.

Houston can get a young QB on the first year of a rookie deal who isn't coming back from a broken leg.

We have ??? over whether Purdy will be healthy and our constant history of needing multiple QB's in a season, plus the cap it would cost us would be pretty substantial in the end.

Yeah. We're more than likely rolling with the two young QBs. We had a collection of QBs this past yr and almost made it to the SB. Gotta hope one of those two develops (hopefully both).

honestly I'm not really over the moon for any of these top end rookie prospects. I don't think this is an amazing draft at the top. The best player is a DT. Young as of now would be my QB1 and he's like 190lbs soaking wet and if he's 6 foot I'll be shocked.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
My guess is he's the guy at the beginning of the season. Purdy will need some more time...

This is a perfect setup for Kyle and co.

This allows him to get another look at Lance to see what's there while not burning and bridges internally or externally for that matter. If it's horrific we fall back to Purdy.

I have to disagree. This is not the perfect setup. Who wants to be 3 and 5 for like the third year in a row and fight two get a decent playoff seed. Who wants to play at Philly or some other place in the NFC title game? We should fight for the #1 seed and have right QB starting from Day 1. I don't want some experiment for the first 5 - 7 games. They should draft another QB this April and bring in a veteran free agent. You have Purdy and Lance. Let all four fight in camp/preseason for the starting job
( granted Purdy hopefully will be ready ). You can't just hand Lance the starting job because he was the third overall pick. He has to earn it and so does Purdy. Lance is unproven. Purdy is a question mark because of his injury. That's why they should DRAFT another QB and bring in someone else with more experience.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
If Houston thought enough to move a 1st for Lance, then one of our own (Ryans) clearly thinks Lance is a FQB. Why would SF think any different?

There's no point in moving Lance. He's young cheap and talented. Our other QB is getting serious ligament repairs on his throwing elbow.

Juse to play devil's advocate as Purdy's injury does change things. But again just playing devil's advocate so we can look at it from a different perspective.

If Houston thought enough to move a 1st for Lance, then one of our own (Ryans) clearly thinks Lance is a FQB. Why would SF think any different?

HOU coaching staff clearly has seen Trey and may want to build their offense around him. I dont see Shanny changing his offense nor should he. Especially considering we know we have a QB whi can run it to it's fullest.

I don't see us getting a 1st for Trey but in this discussion it says HOU gives us one. so if they can get a QB with the 12th pick and able to yse their 2nd pick (or trade it) then it would benefit HOU.

Especially considering we know we have a QB whi can run it to it's fullest. So If Kyle doesn't think Trey can run his offense the way he would like it ran why not trade him for a 1st(in this particular exercise)?

There's no point in moving Lance. He's young cheap and talented. Our other QB is getting serious ligament repairs on his throwing elbow.

My comments here will be a continuance of the assumption that Kyle doesn't think Trey can run his offense the way he wants it ran. Again, this is just playing devil's advocate and not that I think k**e thinks this.

So with that out of the way, if Kyle doesn't believe Trey can run his offense the way he likes it, this would be the offseason that Trey has the most trade value. If we start Trey because he's the only healthy option then we don't like what we have or have to change our offense for him then let's say he gets benched for Purdy. His value drops TREMENDOUSLY. We miss out for what?

Again, all of this is just to show that there could be arguments for trading him as well. It would however, depend on Kyle's personal take on Trey/Brock and obviously the kind of compensation Trey could garner.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
But it may take two years plus to get Trey there with full play. I'm okay with this but 95% of the population not. I still like Trey immensely. I like everything about him down to his quiet humble confident personality. It's a tough spot. Brock may be excellent out the gate. Trey may be a super star with two years of play. What the hell do you do?

I don't know how they are going to do it but I hope Trey gets a shot.

He's getting one until the but this season and he can stick is he's rolling

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
I have to disagree. This is not the perfect setup. Who wants to be 3 and 5 for like the third year in a row and fight two get a decent playoff seed. Who wants to play at Philly or some other place in the NFC title game? We should fight for the #1 seed and have right QB starting from Day 1. I don't want some experiment for the first 5 - 7 games. They should draft another QB this April and bring in a veteran free agent. You have Purdy and Lance. Let all four fight in camp/preseason for the starting job
( granted Purdy hopefully will be ready ). You can't just hand Lance the starting job because he was the third overall pick. He has to earn it and so does Purdy. Lance is unproven. Purdy is a question mark because of his injury. That's why they should DRAFT another QB and bring in someone else with more experience.

Give it up

Purdy is not gonna be able to compete come TC. He's gonna be healthy right at the third preseason game and then he has to work himself into game shape after TC is concluded 8/22/23

A vet ain't gonna know our system like Trey or a rookie. We will draft a rookie and Trey is QB1 all offseason and the start of 2023 until at least the bye week. Trey never went 3-5 and he won't with this team this year. He ain't Josh Johnson and we'll be fine

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Trey should definitely be on the Hurts training program. Hopefully his game can progress the same way.

Yea I saw nothing @ all special about Hurts last year. Wouldn'tve wanted him at all.

But....that's the difference a year can make.

Trey just has to work his ass off. I think he will.

Originally posted by Dshearn:
100 pages later still with the Trade Lance talk.....

still just as ridiculous

The only way the team would consider trading Lance is if they could get back the draft capital they spent....and I am not even sure they would.

The 49ers are cap starved as it is, why would they take on 9-10 million in dead cap space to trade the guy?

That makes no sense

Even if they got back a top 3 pick, you now have 18 to 20 million in cap space eaten up by that transaction. Unless that guy is a Nick Bosa level rookie they just screwed the team.

2024-2025 would be the year for the trade.

We have some real stubborn fans here that can't accept that Trey is gonna be here at least another three seasons

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Trey worked with the same QB coach that Hurts worked with in Quincy Avery

Avery also worked with Tyrod Taylor, Dwayne Haskins & Joshua Dobbs

Taylor is a career backup, which there is no shame in.. everyone isn't going to be elite.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Trey should definitely be on the Hurts training program. Hopefully his game can progress the same way.

Thought Allen was the goal. Are we pivoting now? I will say no matter what, I don't expect Trey to become a turnover machine.

Not pivoting at all. Allen isn't the only guy who has improved his accuracy. I'm all for Hurts or Allen. I specifically named Hurts b/c Trey is working with Quincy Avery. The same guy Hurts worked with on his mechanics and accuracy. And Hurts has definitely improved his accuracy. Trey's size, and running style is definitely more like Allen's than Hurts.

Fwith enough. One interesting thing is I think Trey's running was unfairly knocked like he was a statue. He isn't elite, but isn't a poor runner either. Getting over 4 yards per carry is pretty good, just not among the best. I think Trey would excel running against man and when the rushes lanes open up.

Yea the guy just needs to play get a feel for the game and then let it rip. I think he'll be fine running.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
We have some real stubborn fans here that can't accept that Trey is gonna be here at least another three seasons

Wanna bet?