Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by krizay:
So where exactly are we at with Trey?

He got injured in game 2 so we don't know. We'll find out more as time goes forward.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I just hope he gives us more than 2 games

Just hope we don't have to run that boring offense with him

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I just hope he gives us more than 2 games

Just hope we don't have to run that boring offense with him

QB here is simple stuff, can he do it? Ball out quick to our playmakers, let them do the heavy lifting. KS develops wideouts very well, hoping Gray can find a role maybe as a deep threat. Or we can add a deep threat. Benjamin was the 2021 deep threat, Ray Ray in 2022, could use an upgrade here, especially with TL.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
QB here is simple stuff, can he do it? Ball out quick to our playmakers, let them do the heavy lifting. KS develops wideouts very well, hoping Gray can find a role maybe as a deep threat. Or we can add a deep threat. Benjamin was the 2021 deep threat, Ray Ray in 2022, could use an upgrade here, especially with TL.

I believe Danny Gray was a TL pick. In theory perfect combination. I think Gray would be ok with Purdy but had zero value with JG

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I just hope he gives us more than 2 games

Just hope we don't have to run that boring offense with him

I hope we just throw touchdowns and win games with Brock Purdy. Which we have proven we can do.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I hope we just throw touchdowns and win games with Brock Purdy. Which we have proven we can do.

Glad to see this from a 49er fan in the Trey Lance thread

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I hope we just throw touchdowns and win games with Brock Purdy. Which we have proven we can do.

Glad to see this from a 49er fan in the Trey Lance thread

Until he can prove he is worthy of playing time he will be Trey_SOM HILL Lance. He will get a package of plays. Run or throw. Throw or run Read options.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I just hope he gives us more than 2 games

Just hope we don't have to run that boring offense with him

We won't with your guy Mac. What a relief.

Originally posted by krizay:
Just hope we don't have to run that boring offense with him

Whatever Trey is going to end up being as a player, it would be nice to see him at least progress enough in the offseason to where Kyle feels comfortable calling more plays for him in the pass game. I don't think using him in the run game is ever going away (that's a big reason he was drafted) but the offense hasn't felt more constricted at almost any point under Kyle than when Trey has been on the field.

I don't think that's an unrealistic goal for him in the immediate future.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Whatever Trey is going to end up being as a player, it would be nice to see him at least progress enough in the offseason to where Kyle feels comfortable calling more plays for him in the pass game. I don't think using him in the run game is ever going away (that's a big reason he was drafted) but the offense hasn't felt more constricted at almost any point under Kyle than when Trey has been on the field.

I don't think that's an unrealistic goal for him in the immediate future.

I disagree. It wasn't constructed in the HOU game. Trey just took a bit to get comfortable as is expected for a guy that hadn't played in a couple years. Trey is sharp and knows the offense cold. He just needs to play and get reps and by mid season he's gonna be just fine

If by some chance he isn't we have Brock but I seriously doubt Trey is gonna fail on this team in this offense and especially after the super bowl I just watched we need Trey Lance to win it all or the best version of Brock Purdy with certain things in place

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I disagree. It wasn't constructed in the HOU game. Trey just took a bit to get comfortable as is expected for a guy that hadn't played in a couple years. Trey is sharp and knows the offense cold. He just needs to play and get reps and by mid season he's gonna be just fine

If by some chance he isn't we have Brock but I seriously doubt Trey is gonna fail on this team in this offense and especially after the super bowl I just watched we need Trey Lance to win it all or the best version of Brock Purdy with certain things in place

It was entirely constricted in the Houston game, and I don't think Trey played well in that game even though he certainly played better late in the game. We can debate the specifics of his play, but we were losing at halftime and in a close game into the 4th quarter before Trey hit that tailor made bomb to Deebo. He gets credit for that play, but it was not a difficult completion save for needing the arm strength to make the throw. Beyond that the offense was a disjointed mess for 3 quarters against one of the worst teams in the league in a have-to-have-it game. At least they did end up getting win, which is the most important thing.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We gave up the 29th overall pick last year and the 29th overall pick this year for Trey Lance.

But it feels like we gave up two #1 overall picks when we talk about the trade. Normally if a person looked at the results and draft picks given up we would look like the winners in that trade taking us from #12 overall all the way back to #29 in back to back years. Problem here is that he wasn't on the field for it.

I hate that trade and this is not an anti TL convo.. not even talking TL.. but the idea of going back 9 picks and giving up the next two years worth of firsts is just dumb.

Pick 12 had some real players there and we could have kept all the ones.

Those picks are around 16 million a year on the cap (12, 29 and 29)

I get the idea of the draft pick being a loss. You simply don't drop that much draft capital into a project under any circumstance......but I do like the trade.

On a team that that has great players you have to make the cap work for the team.

The Trey trade, and the CMC trade (the picks and the players you no longer need because of Trey and CMC) just about pay for CMC.

To me that is win, on a team as talented as the 49ers....I love the idea of trading away 3+ million dollar gambles if you can get great NFL talent that is cost controlled.

That is very well said, this was my train of thought as well.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We gave up the 29th overall pick last year and the 29th overall pick this year for Trey Lance.

But it feels like we gave up two #1 overall picks when we talk about the trade. Normally if a person looked at the results and draft picks given up we would look like the winners in that trade taking us from #12 overall all the way back to #29 in back to back years. Problem here is that he wasn't on the field for it.

I hate that trade and this is not an anti TL convo.. not even talking TL.. but the idea of going back 9 picks and giving up the next two years worth of firsts is just dumb.

Pick 12 had some real players there and we could have kept all the ones.

Those picks are around 16 million a year on the cap (12, 29 and 29)

I get the idea of the draft pick being a loss. You simply don't drop that much draft capital into a project under any circumstance......but I do like the trade.

On a team that that has great players you have to make the cap work for the team.

The Trey trade, and the CMC trade (the picks and the players you no longer need because of Trey and CMC) just about pay for CMC.

To me that is win, on a team as talented as the 49ers....I love the idea of trading away 3+ million dollar gambles if you can get great NFL talent that is cost controlled.

That is very well said, this was my train of thought as well.

Agreed. The trade was a cap move as much as it was a need to upgrade the QB position. The fans who say they hate the trade never see the cap savings side of it. It would be completely different if this roster wasn't so stacked.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We gave up the 29th overall pick last year and the 29th overall pick this year for Trey Lance.

But it feels like we gave up two #1 overall picks when we talk about the trade. Normally if a person looked at the results and draft picks given up we would look like the winners in that trade taking us from #12 overall all the way back to #29 in back to back years. Problem here is that he wasn't on the field for it.

I hate that trade and this is not an anti TL convo.. not even talking TL.. but the idea of going back 9 picks and giving up the next two years worth of firsts is just dumb.

Pick 12 had some real players there and we could have kept all the ones.

Those picks are around 16 million a year on the cap (12, 29 and 29)

I get the idea of the draft pick being a loss. You simply don't drop that much draft capital into a project under any circumstance......but I do like the trade.

On a team that that has great players you have to make the cap work for the team.

The Trey trade, and the CMC trade (the picks and the players you no longer need because of Trey and CMC) just about pay for CMC.

To me that is win, on a team as talented as the 49ers....I love the idea of trading away 3+ million dollar gambles if you can get great NFL talent that is cost controlled.

That is very well said, this was my train of thought as well.

Agreed. The trade was a cap move as much as it was a need to upgrade the QB position. The fans who say they hate the trade never see the cap savings side of it. It would be completely different if this roster wasn't so stacked.

That's a terrible post / mentality imo. It basically reads like we should give up our first round picks voluntarily as there is a cap charge associated with each pick.

Sure there is a cap charge, but your math is all wrong. Cap hit for a 29th overall player in round one is no where near 16 mil a year what are you talking about? Cole Strange had a cap hit of $2.2 mil last year which is a complete bargain.

Your whole idea is just flat false.

You want guys on the rook contract folks, it's cap friendly thats the whole concept of getting a QB on rook contract for example..