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I missed the live show - and it's not on youtube yet. Can someone confirm QA said this?
Originally posted by 4ML:

I missed the live show - and it's not on youtube yet. Can someone confirm QA said this?

Who is Quincy Avery? Like a private coach?

thats good to hear but I'm over being excited or anxious until I see it. I don't mean to be negative, I guess I'm just so tired of getting my hopes up and being crushed.

i personally think Purdy is the answer going forward, but he's still had a small sample size - so who knows. It'll be interesting to see if this injury has an impact on his throwing/angle ability
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by genus49:
Exactly. I will never bash a team for trying to get a franchise QB if they think they don't have one and clearly you don't make a move like that thinking you have one.

We may never get to see Lance become what the team expected of him whether due to injury or because Brock plays well enough to keep Lance from getting the reps he needs to develop properly. The move still made sense.

We can argue about it now but we know 2 things.

1. 49ers felt Jimmy G wasn't a long term solution
2. They loved Trey enough to take him at #3 overall after that type of trade up.

To me if you believe those two things then you make that move 100 times out of 100.

Who knows what happens in the future with Trey and who knows what would've happened this season had he not gotten hurt vs Seattle.

Brock being in the picture gives us insurance and overall looking at the trade value chart and depreciating value of future draft picks on the day of that draft we actually won the trade from draft capital perspective.

If Trey turns into a franchise QB we'll go back and laugh at anyone doubting the move. If he doesn't it's not a coach or franchise killer move. We can go back and play pretend with who we could've had but we don't know. This team has done a pretty good job of finding late round talent but first round picks outside of Bosa haven't exactly been slam dunks.

But the more you dive into it, the more I got to know the guy, the more I got to find out some stuff about him, I believed in what I didn't see and what I believe we will see."

Recipe for disaster.

Or success...funny how that goes.

QB is the most important position in the game. If you hit it you're in a great spot for 10+ years. If you don't you're going to keep taking shots until you hit.

I'd much rather make a move like we did for a prospect like Trey Lance who can be surrounded by great offensive coaching and talent vs trading what we did to acquire over the hill OJ Simpson. Ended up giving away #1 overall pick and as a result likely led to us drafting Joe Montana.
Originally posted by genus49:
Or success...funny how that goes.

QB is the most important position in the game. If you hit it you're in a great spot for 10+ years. If you don't you're going to keep taking shots until you hit.

I'd much rather make a move like we did for a prospect like Trey Lance who can be surrounded by great offensive coaching and talent vs trading what we did to acquire over the hill OJ Simpson. Ended up giving away #1 overall pick and as a result likely led to us drafting Joe Montana.

Yea that's what ESPN keeps telling us.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean hell yeah…not gonna hold my breath on that though.
Why couldn't he be?
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 4ML:

I missed the live show - and it's not on youtube yet. Can someone confirm QA said this?

Who is Quincy Avery? Like a private coach?

thats good to hear but I'm over being excited or anxious until I see it. I don't mean to be negative, I guess I'm just so tired of getting my hopes up and being crushed.

i personally think Purdy is the answer going forward, but he's still had a small sample size - so who knows. It'll be interesting to see if this injury has an impact on his throwing/angle ability

Yes, private coach who runs QB Takeover and is well respected in NFL. Lynch has said previously that he spoke to Quincy and said his opinion mattered a lot to him. Quincy has coached quite a few high profiled QBs over the years.

I really hope Purdy is good to go for TC. I'd love to see two young healthy QBs competing against each other. It's a good situation to have.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by genus49:
Or success...funny how that goes.

QB is the most important position in the game. If you hit it you're in a great spot for 10+ years. If you don't you're going to keep taking shots until you hit.

I'd much rather make a move like we did for a prospect like Trey Lance who can be surrounded by great offensive coaching and talent vs trading what we did to acquire over the hill OJ Simpson. Ended up giving away #1 overall pick and as a result likely led to us drafting Joe Montana.

Yea that's what ESPN keeps telling us.

You just watched us play a game without a QB and you're trying to pretend that's not the case?

SB had the league MVP and MVP runner up and the two teams who sacked the QB the most in the NFL.

Yes QB is the most important position in the NFL.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Yes, private coach who runs QB Takeover and is well respected in NFL. Lynch has said previously that he spoke to Quincy and said his opinion mattered a lot to him. Quincy has coached quite a few high profiled QBs over the years.

I really hope Purdy is good to go for TC. I'd love to see two young healthy QBs competing against each other. It's a good situation to have.

The same guy who said Dwayne Haskins was the best thrower of the football he has ever seen
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Yes, private coach who runs QB Takeover and is well respected in NFL. Lynch has said previously that he spoke to Quincy and said his opinion mattered a lot to him. Quincy has coached quite a few high profiled QBs over the years.

I really hope Purdy is good to go for TC. I'd love to see two young healthy QBs competing against each other. It's a good situation to have.

The same guy who said Dwayne Haskins was the best thrower of the football he has ever seen

loool so what?

Bill Walsh drafted Giovanni Carmazzi in 2020 draft and called him the one of his better draft picks. Tom Brady was drafted a few rounds later in that same draft.
Originally posted by genus49:
You just watched us play a game without a QB and you're trying to pretend that's not the case?

SB had the league MVP and MVP runner up and the two teams who sacked the QB the most in the NFL.

Yes QB is the most important position in the NFL.

I also seen Jimmy G beat the back to back MVP in last year's playoffs.

The runner up this year had passing stats in the 1st 2 playoff games that would rival Jimmy's numbers. He did have great superbowl I'll give him that.

You remember when Nick Bosa got hurt and we had like statistically the worst defense in like... ever?

Steelers has yet to win a game without TJ Watt. Yet when he plays and with a mediocre offense them dudes win.

Last year Cards start off on fire the Dhop goes down they couldn't win a game after that.

Moral of the story is if you lose key players pretty much no matter the position you are not going to win big games.

Yet, we made it to NFCCG with our 3rd string QB. Made it to NFCCG 3 out of 4 years with JG and our 3rd string QB.

Brock/JG 3 NFCCG

Drew Brees 3 NFCCG
Russell Wilson 2 NFCCG

Hell Arod only been to 5
Peyton 5.

So serious question. What in your opinion is the definition of franchise quarterback? Or stud QB or whatever term you choose to use?

Originally posted by 4ML:
loool so what?

Bill Walsh drafted Giovanni Carmazzi in 2020 draft and called him the one of his better draft picks. Tom Brady was drafted a few rounds later in that same draft.

Point is they're always going to say what they got to for their players
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by 4ML:
loool so what?

Bill Walsh drafted Giovanni Carmazzi in 2020 draft and called him the one of his better draft picks. Tom Brady was drafted a few rounds later in that same draft.

Point is they're always going to say what they got to for their players

..and my point is - no one is perfect. And - as for Haskins - he did have tremendous arm talent. He was drafted 15th overall (and he dropped to 15th bc of off-field issues not on-field performances). His 40 time was above 5 seconds. How many black QBs get drafted in top 15 who can't run?

Not to mention - he was drafted by WFT - one of the worst franchises in football and the coach that drafted him was fired the following year. Then they released him bc he went to a party without mask. Also - Haskins played 2 years in the NFL before he passed away. Too less of a time to judge him.

Lastly - Quincy Avery is well respected coach among NFL Front offices. Lynch even said his opinion mattered a lot to him. You don't gain that respect if you're just hyping up your players without merit.
Funny how Andy Reid scheme works best with top 10 picks and not the Kevin Kolbs or Chad Hennes of the world.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Funny how Andy Reid scheme works best with top 10 picks and not the Kevin Kolbs or Chad Hennes of the world.

Chad Henne did lead the Chiefs to a playoff win vs CLE. Mahomes got knocked out. Here was the takeaway:

But in Kansas City's case, it was Henne or bust those visions of a repeat Super Bowl crown.

Henne made two spectacular plays in crunch time — and a few others before that — to help seize a 22-17 victory against the Cleveland Browns that allows Kansas City to become the first team to host the AFC Championship game for a third consecutive season.

Henne also led KC on a 98 yard TD drive vs JAX this past postseason.. why do you say the scheme didn't work with Henne? He didn't play much but he marched up and down vs playoff teams when he did..
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Chad Henne did lead the Chiefs to a playoff win vs CLE. Mahomes got knocked out. Here was the takeaway:

But in Kansas City's case, it was Henne or bust those visions of a repeat Super Bowl crown.

Henne made two spectacular plays in crunch time — and a few others before that — to help seize a 22-17 victory against the Cleveland Browns that allows Kansas City to become the first team to host the AFC Championship game for a third consecutive season.

Henne also led KC on a 98 yard TD drive vs JAX this past postseason.. why do you say the scheme didn't work with Henne? He didn't play much but he marched up and down vs playoff teams when he did..

Yea I was going to post something similar but chose not to. Hell even Kolb under Reid wasn't horrible. Just 1 game under .500 with a + TD/INT ratio.

Plus Kolb doesn't exactly fit the same profile as McNabb or Mahomes or Vick so one has to wonder if he was a scheme fit to begin with.
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