The way things have gone for us lately at the position the best method of Trey getting the reps he needs to develop may be by being the backup QB
I so miss the days when we just had our starting QB be great and play consistently without missing a ton of time.
Whether it's Brock or Trey I hope to hell they stay healthy moving forward.
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Mar 6, 2023 at 6:29 PM
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Mar 6, 2023 at 6:41 PM
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Originally posted by bigpete50:
It's a timing thing. Niners need to win now and don't have time for Trey to develop. Now if the Niners finished.400 last year, we'd be having an entirely different conversation. Trey has all the talent in the world and may have a higher ceiling than Purdy but it might take a few years to materialize. Can the Niners be patient and allow Trey to start and learn on the job? I'm not convinced..
When you trade three firsts and more you're trading to get a FRANCHISE QB FOR THE LONG HAUL!! If you were so hell bent on winning now you TRADE FOR BRADY OR RODGERS!! You do what the Rams did and risk it all for a year or two
When we traded all we did for Trey we showed we were prioritizing the long term and that we were willing to develop Trey
All this nonsense talk is just from folk that don't want Trey no matter what. There's no way we traded up for Trey to win now because if we had we could have traded those same picks and have gotten ourselves a HOFer that actually is from here that wanted to be here
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Mar 6, 2023 at 8:16 PM ]
Mar 6, 2023 at 8:10 PM
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..
You still on the 4.92 thing?
ANYONE can run a slow time for any # of reasons.
Now,...Running an extremely fast time -- as Trey has already done -- is the hard, nearly-impossible thing to do.
How long you going to stay on this, lol? You emphasize how little you know about athletics when you harp on an old slow HS time.
[ Edited by random49er on Mar 6, 2023 at 8:12 PM ]
Mar 6, 2023 at 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by bigpete50:
Sadly, the Niners brass sees Trey as a stop gap until Purdy comes back. Prince Harry calls himself the Spare. Trey is in the same boat. Only thing going for Trey is Niners may not have any other options but to play him, but he is still viewed as a spare.
The other concern for Trey is if we bring in a decent veteran QB, Trey may not beat whomever that may be for starting QB. I'll get spammed for this from the Trey lover of which there are many, but that's ok.
Let's check in on how the #49ers feel about Trey Lance… pic.twitter.com/Ssyf5ZkbLV
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Mar 6, 2023 at 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..
You still on the 4.92 thing?
ANYONE can run a slow time for any # of reasons.
Now,...Running an extremely fast time -- as Trey has already done -- is the hard, nearly-impossible thing to do.
How long you going to stay on this, lol? You emphasize how little you know about athletics when you harp on an old slow HS time.
Dude 4.92 is not "slow." Not sure why you're so upset by this. Is it because Jimmy ran a 4.97 so is basically the same speed? Please explain why you're so triggered.
Mar 7, 2023 at 3:39 AM
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..
You still on the 4.92 thing?
ANYONE can run a slow time for any # of reasons.
Now,...Running an extremely fast time -- as Trey has already done -- is the hard, nearly-impossible thing to do.
How long you going to stay on this, lol? You emphasize how little you know about athletics when you harp on an old slow HS time.
Dude 4.92 is not "slow." Not sure why you're so upset by this. Is it because Jimmy ran a 4.97 so is basically the same speed? Please explain why you're so triggered.
I like how whenever someone calls out bs you automatically assume triggered lol. And yes, 4.9 is slow for NFL standards.
Mar 7, 2023 at 6:43 AM
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Every injury has a silver lining. Now we get to see Lance again from what we missed of him last year. With Lance's zippy arm strength, the offense gonna be fast and deep between the safties and LBs
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Mar 7, 2023 at 6:46 AM ]
Mar 7, 2023 at 7:14 AM
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..
You still on the 4.92 thing?
ANYONE can run a slow time for any # of reasons.
Now,...Running an extremely fast time -- as Trey has already done -- is the hard, nearly-impossible thing to do.
How long you going to stay on this, lol? You emphasize how little you know about athletics when you harp on an old slow HS time.
Dude 4.92 is not "slow." Not sure why you're so upset by this. Is it because Jimmy ran a 4.97 so is basically the same speed? Please explain why you're so triggered.
I didn't say 4.92 is slow, dude. I said ANYONE can run a slow time.
Is this concept over your head or do I really need to break down how even olympic athletes can run slow times here and there? There are a # of possible factors. You dont gauge them by their slowest time you can find,...lol. That's sheer ignorance.
[ Edited by random49er on Mar 7, 2023 at 7:16 AM ]
Mar 7, 2023 at 7:23 AM
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I've seen the 4.92 times and also one in the 4.5 + range. Jerry Rice had a slow 40 time compared to some burners but he turned out ok.
Mar 7, 2023 at 7:30 AM
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Originally posted by Heed49er:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by ImRicky:
Are you insane? Lance runs a 4.92 and hasn't shown that he can command a huddle or throw well at all. Forget dual threat when he isn't a threat running or passing for that matter. Right now nobody knows what he is to be fair but what we've seen when healthy hasn't looked all that great or promising. I mean he played a handful of FCS games is all. Really needs to work on mechanics. His pocket poise is suspect and can't even make the simple throws half the time
Still spreading false narratives in this thread.
You know damn well Trey doesn't run a 4.9. It's s**t posts like this that incites stupidity in this thread.
4.92 SECS
ESPN College Combine Workout Stats: Trey Lance
Forty Yard Dash 4.92 SECS
Vertical Jump 32.40
Shuttle 4.51 SECS
https://www.google.com/search?q=trey+lance+40+time&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS861US861&oq=trey+lance+40+time&aqs=chrome..69i57.7887j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
We still doing this crap?
I don't know what that site is doing but there was no combine Trey's season due to covid. He didn't run the 40 at his pro day either, basically saying GPS clocked me as fast on an actual football field within a game and I don't need to prove it in shorts on a track field.
You do understand how google works right? That site filled in a number for his 40 time. Where they got that number is certainly a good question but we know he didn't actually run the 40 during the draft process.
40 times are just as much about training as they are as much about speed. Sure fast guys will still run fast but you can shave off a good half second with proper training to run the 40.
I don't know what an ESPN College Combine is. I know what the NFL combine is. Is it something there for HS kids to run before going to college? I have no idea.
But stop spreading misinformation just because it comes up nice and easy for you at the top of google. Use your brain more, it can handle it.
Mar 7, 2023 at 7:45 AM
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Trey Lance is hindered by his accuracy, physical throwing motion speed (the whole set up and release), and lack of experience, not his ability to find the open man. This seems to support that:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/167451-49ers-lance-scored-closer-brock-cognitive-suggested-co-founder/
That's the vibe I've got from him. He never seemed to be a guy constantly predetermining where he was going with the ball like Jimmy. He genuinely reads the defense post snap and adjusts to what he sees. He just needs experience to get a tick faster at that, and he's got to do something about his accuracy.
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/167451-49ers-lance-scored-closer-brock-cognitive-suggested-co-founder/
That's the vibe I've got from him. He never seemed to be a guy constantly predetermining where he was going with the ball like Jimmy. He genuinely reads the defense post snap and adjusts to what he sees. He just needs experience to get a tick faster at that, and he's got to do something about his accuracy.
Mar 7, 2023 at 7:47 AM
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..
You still on the 4.92 thing?
ANYONE can run a slow time for any # of reasons.
Now,...Running an extremely fast time -- as Trey has already done -- is the hard, nearly-impossible thing to do.
How long you going to stay on this, lol? You emphasize how little you know about athletics when you harp on an old slow HS time.
Dude 4.92 is not "slow." Not sure why you're so upset by this. Is it because Jimmy ran a 4.97 so is basically the same speed? Please explain why you're so triggered.
Whatever it is, it's FALSE. And also CLEARLY stupid. He's shown tape of being faster than that. The fact that people genuinely believe this shows how utterly dumb when it comes to fact checking society has become.
Mar 7, 2023 at 8:03 AM
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Originally posted by RishikeshA:
I've seen the 4.92 times and also one in the 4.5 + range. Jerry Rice had a slow 40 time compared to some burners but he turned out ok.
The fact that you're giving the 4.92 any credit is concerning. Jimmy ran a 4.97. Blake Bortles ran a 4.93. Derrek Carr ran a 4.69. Stop believing stupid s**t that is OBVIOUSLY stupid.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2014-combine.htm
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Mar 7, 2023 at 8:04 AM ]
Mar 7, 2023 at 8:11 AM
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by Heed49er:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by ImRicky:
Are you insane? Lance runs a 4.92 and hasn't shown that he can command a huddle or throw well at all. Forget dual threat when he isn't a threat running or passing for that matter. Right now nobody knows what he is to be fair but what we've seen when healthy hasn't looked all that great or promising. I mean he played a handful of FCS games is all. Really needs to work on mechanics. His pocket poise is suspect and can't even make the simple throws half the time
Still spreading false narratives in this thread.
You know damn well Trey doesn't run a 4.9. It's s**t posts like this that incites stupidity in this thread.
4.92 SECS
ESPN College Combine Workout Stats: Trey Lance
Forty Yard Dash 4.92 SECS
Vertical Jump 32.40
Shuttle 4.51 SECS
https://www.google.com/search?q=trey+lance+40+time&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS861US861&oq=trey+lance+40+time&aqs=chrome..69i57.7887j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Again, b******t. That is NOT what he runs.
https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-draft-trey-lance-won-t-run-40-at-pro-day-leaning-on-tape-to-show-speed
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..
It's people not reading what they're googling (or doing it on purpose to push a narrative).
those numbers are from a high school combine for kids recruiting for college. Jalen Hurts ran a 4.85 at the same event.
Mar 7, 2023 at 8:33 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by Heed49er:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by ImRicky:
Are you insane? Lance runs a 4.92 and hasn't shown that he can command a huddle or throw well at all. Forget dual threat when he isn't a threat running or passing for that matter. Right now nobody knows what he is to be fair but what we've seen when healthy hasn't looked all that great or promising. I mean he played a handful of FCS games is all. Really needs to work on mechanics. His pocket poise is suspect and can't even make the simple throws half the time
Still spreading false narratives in this thread.
You know damn well Trey doesn't run a 4.9. It's s**t posts like this that incites stupidity in this thread.
4.92 SECS
ESPN College Combine Workout Stats: Trey Lance
Forty Yard Dash 4.92 SECS
Vertical Jump 32.40
Shuttle 4.51 SECS
https://www.google.com/search?q=trey+lance+40+time&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS861US861&oq=trey+lance+40+time&aqs=chrome..69i57.7887j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Again, b******t. That is NOT what he runs.
https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-draft-trey-lance-won-t-run-40-at-pro-day-leaning-on-tape-to-show-speed
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..
It's people not reading what they're googling (or doing it on purpose to push a narrative).
those numbers are from a high school combine for kids recruiting for college. Jalen Hurts ran a 4.85 at the same event.
There comes a point when the line separating blank, blank and blank begins to blur.
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Had to edit when I realized I'd probably get a time out for that. They are three words related to work ethic, naivete and the third one I can't even use a euphemism but let's just say it's not hard to figure out. Although I was saying the IDEA is that word, not a person.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Mar 7, 2023 at 8:35 AM ]