Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..

You still on the 4.92 thing?

ANYONE can run a slow time for any # of reasons.

Now,...Running an extremely fast time -- as Trey has already done -- is the hard, nearly-impossible thing to do.

How long you going to stay on this, lol? You emphasize how little you know about athletics when you harp on an old slow HS time.

Dude 4.92 is not "slow." Not sure why you're so upset by this. Is it because Jimmy ran a 4.97 so is basically the same speed? Please explain why you're so triggered.

Whatever it is, it's FALSE. And also CLEARLY stupid. He's shown tape of being faster than that. The fact that people genuinely believe this shows how utterly dumb when it comes to fact checking society has become.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
I've seen the 4.92 times and also one in the 4.5 + range. Jerry Rice had a slow 40 time compared to some burners but he turned out ok.

The fact that you're giving the 4.92 any credit is concerning. Jimmy ran a 4.97. Blake Bortles ran a 4.93. Derrek Carr ran a 4.69. Stop believing stupid s**t that is OBVIOUSLY stupid.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2014-combine.htm

That google "40 time" is from the ESPN high school combine. Kids basically do combine like drills in preparation for college recruiting in high school. The only reason that pops up for Lance is because it's the only "official" 40 time for him anywhere…which happened when he was like a 16 yr old kid. Jalen Hurts ran a 4.85 at the same event.

It's painfully obvious the only people that actually use that as justification of anything…are the people that have some weird obsession with hating on Lance. It's gotten to the point where we're using numbers from Hs to prove s**t…which is pretty pathetic.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..

You still on the 4.92 thing?

ANYONE can run a slow time for any # of reasons.

Now,...Running an extremely fast time -- as Trey has already done -- is the hard, nearly-impossible thing to do.

How long you going to stay on this, lol? You emphasize how little you know about athletics when you harp on an old slow HS time.

Dude 4.92 is not "slow." Not sure why you're so upset by this. Is it because Jimmy ran a 4.97 so is basically the same speed? Please explain why you're so triggered.

Whatever it is, it's FALSE. And also CLEARLY stupid. He's shown tape of being faster than that. The fact that people genuinely believe this shows how utterly dumb when it comes to fact checking society has become.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
I've seen the 4.92 times and also one in the 4.5 + range. Jerry Rice had a slow 40 time compared to some burners but he turned out ok.

The fact that you're giving the 4.92 any credit is concerning. Jimmy ran a 4.97. Blake Bortles ran a 4.93. Derrek Carr ran a 4.69. Stop believing stupid s**t that is OBVIOUSLY stupid.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2014-combine.htm

That google "40 time" is from the ESPN high school combine. Kids basically do combine like drills in preparation for college recruiting in high school. The only reason that pops up for Lance is because it's the only "official" 40 time for him anywhere…which happened when he was like a 16 yr old kid. Jalen Hurts ran a 4.85 at the same event.

It's painfully obvious the only people that actually use that as justification of anything…are the people that have some weird obsession with hating on Lance. It's gotten to the point where we're using numbers from Hs to prove s**t…which is pretty pathetic.

Thanks for the info. I was wondering where ESPN came up with that. If you try to look up Trey's combine results you will see numerous pages stating tha the didn't run a 40 at the combine or at his pro day. They explain why.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..

You still on the 4.92 thing?

ANYONE can run a slow time for any # of reasons.

Now,...Running an extremely fast time -- as Trey has already done -- is the hard, nearly-impossible thing to do.

How long you going to stay on this, lol? You emphasize how little you know about athletics when you harp on an old slow HS time.

Dude 4.92 is not "slow." Not sure why you're so upset by this. Is it because Jimmy ran a 4.97 so is basically the same speed? Please explain why you're so triggered.

Whatever it is, it's FALSE. And also CLEARLY stupid. He's shown tape of being faster than that. The fact that people genuinely believe this shows how utterly dumb when it comes to fact checking society has become.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
I've seen the 4.92 times and also one in the 4.5 + range. Jerry Rice had a slow 40 time compared to some burners but he turned out ok.

The fact that you're giving the 4.92 any credit is concerning. Jimmy ran a 4.97. Blake Bortles ran a 4.93. Derrek Carr ran a 4.69. Stop believing stupid s**t that is OBVIOUSLY stupid.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2014-combine.htm

That google "40 time" is from the ESPN high school combine. Kids basically do combine like drills in preparation for college recruiting in high school. The only reason that pops up for Lance is because it's the only "official" 40 time for him anywhere…which happened when he was like a 16 yr old kid. Jalen Hurts ran a 4.85 at the same event.

It's painfully obvious the only people that actually use that as justification of anything…are the people that have some weird obsession with hating on Lance. It's gotten to the point where we're using numbers from Hs to prove s**t…which is pretty pathetic.

I mean if it was done when he was a kid unfinished with puberty it's even MORE stupid than if it was just made up.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
When you trade three firsts and more you're trading to get a FRANCHISE QB FOR THE LONG HAUL!! If you were so hell bent on winning now you TRADE FOR BRADY OR RODGERS!! You do what the Rams did and risk it all for a year or two

When we traded all we did for Trey we showed we were prioritizing the long term and that we were willing to develop Trey

All this nonsense talk is just from folk that don't want Trey no matter what. There's no way we traded up for Trey to win now because if we had we could have traded those same picks and have gotten ourselves a HOFer that actually is from here that wanted to be here

Fair enough. But I'll counter that just because you traded all that draft capital doesn't mandate a team develop a QB unless said QB flashes characteristics needed to run Kyle's offense. As others have pointed out below, Trey will need to show dramatic improvement in accuracy, ability to get rid of the ball fast and ability to read defenses. Much of Trey's future will be unveiled in training camp.

If he doesn't show improvement, Niners brass has no issues labeling Trey a project for another team to develop and/or Trey is relegated to a backup role. Trey will need to earn his playing time. The Niners won't hand him the starting job just because they spent all that draft capital to get him.

Originally posted by bigpete50:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
When you trade three firsts and more you're trading to get a FRANCHISE QB FOR THE LONG HAUL!! If you were so hell bent on winning now you TRADE FOR BRADY OR RODGERS!! You do what the Rams did and risk it all for a year or two

When we traded all we did for Trey we showed we were prioritizing the long term and that we were willing to develop Trey

All this nonsense talk is just from folk that don't want Trey no matter what. There's no way we traded up for Trey to win now because if we had we could have traded those same picks and have gotten ourselves a HOFer that actually is from here that wanted to be here

Fair enough. But I'll counter that just because you traded all that draft capital doesn't mandate a team develop a QB unless said QB flashes characteristics needed to run Kyle's offense. As others have pointed out below, Trey will need to show dramatic improvement in accuracy, ability to get rid of the ball fast and ability to read defenses. Much of Trey's future will be unveiled in training camp.

If he doesn't show improvement, Niners brass has no issues labeling Trey a project for another team to develop and/or Trey is relegated to a backup role. Trey will need to earn his playing time. The Niners won't hand him the starting job just because they spent all that draft capital to get him.

They'll hand it to him because there's no one else until Purdy gets back. I find it hard to believe they're going to spend a lot of money on a FA QB given how the market is looking.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by bigpete50:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
When you trade three firsts and more you're trading to get a FRANCHISE QB FOR THE LONG HAUL!! If you were so hell bent on winning now you TRADE FOR BRADY OR RODGERS!! You do what the Rams did and risk it all for a year or two

When we traded all we did for Trey we showed we were prioritizing the long term and that we were willing to develop Trey

All this nonsense talk is just from folk that don't want Trey no matter what. There's no way we traded up for Trey to win now because if we had we could have traded those same picks and have gotten ourselves a HOFer that actually is from here that wanted to be here

Fair enough. But I'll counter that just because you traded all that draft capital doesn't mandate a team develop a QB unless said QB flashes characteristics needed to run Kyle's offense. As others have pointed out below, Trey will need to show dramatic improvement in accuracy, ability to get rid of the ball fast and ability to read defenses. Much of Trey's future will be unveiled in training camp.

If he doesn't show improvement, Niners brass has no issues labeling Trey a project for another team to develop and/or Trey is relegated to a backup role. Trey will need to earn his playing time. The Niners won't hand him the starting job just because they spent all that draft capital to get him.

They'll hand it to him because there's no one else until Purdy gets back. I find it hard to believe they're going to spend a lot of money on a FA QB given how the market is looking.

if you think TL is the only QB on roster until Aug/Sept that idea is absurd yet i see ppl posting it routinely

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by bigpete50:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
When you trade three firsts and more you're trading to get a FRANCHISE QB FOR THE LONG HAUL!! If you were so hell bent on winning now you TRADE FOR BRADY OR RODGERS!! You do what the Rams did and risk it all for a year or two

When we traded all we did for Trey we showed we were prioritizing the long term and that we were willing to develop Trey

All this nonsense talk is just from folk that don't want Trey no matter what. There's no way we traded up for Trey to win now because if we had we could have traded those same picks and have gotten ourselves a HOFer that actually is from here that wanted to be here

Fair enough. But I'll counter that just because you traded all that draft capital doesn't mandate a team develop a QB unless said QB flashes characteristics needed to run Kyle's offense. As others have pointed out below, Trey will need to show dramatic improvement in accuracy, ability to get rid of the ball fast and ability to read defenses. Much of Trey's future will be unveiled in training camp.

If he doesn't show improvement, Niners brass has no issues labeling Trey a project for another team to develop and/or Trey is relegated to a backup role. Trey will need to earn his playing time. The Niners won't hand him the starting job just because they spent all that draft capital to get him.

They'll hand it to him because there's no one else until Purdy gets back. I find it hard to believe they're going to spend a lot of money on a FA QB given how the market is looking.

if you think TL is the only QB on roster until Aug/Sept that idea is absurd yet i see ppl posting it routinely

No they'll have someone else. But it's not going to be someone EXPENSIVE enough to have a real shot at taking the job (until Purdy comes back).

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
No they'll have someone else. But it's not going to be someone EXPENSIVE enough to have a real shot at taking the job (until Purdy comes back).

I don't think ppl are maybe understanding what is going on here. BP there is some chance he misses 2023. TL hasn't been able to stay on the field year 1 or year 2. JL knows this and broadcast to everyone that we are actively searching for a QB.

Whoever we add has a real shot at starting games in 2023, due to possible BP or TL unavailability.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I don't think ppl are maybe understanding what is going on here. BP there is some chance he misses 2023. TL hasn't been able to stay on the field year 1 or year 2. JL knows this and broadcast to everyone that we are actively searching for a QB.

Whoever we add has a real shot at starting games in 2023, due to possible BP or TL unavailability.

I keep telling ya'll who it's going to be. The dude that just won his 2nd Natty. He's going to step in and be able to Challenge Trey from the jump. Then the real battle eill be between he and BP half way through the year.

Heard it here 1st!



That is unless Balt goes that direction before us with losing Lamar and signing Bennett's OC. Which would be genius IMO

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I don't think ppl are maybe understanding what is going on here. BP there is some chance he misses 2023. TL hasn't been able to stay on the field year 1 or year 2. JL knows this and broadcast to everyone that we are actively searching for a QB.

Whoever we add has a real shot at starting games in 2023, due to possible BP or TL unavailability.

I keep telling ya'll who it's going to be. The dude that just won his 2nd Natty. He's going to step in and be able to Challenge Trey from the jump. Then the real battle eill be between he and BP half way through the year.

Heard it here 1st!



That is unless Balt goes that direction before us with losing Lamar and signing Bennett's OC. Which would be genius IMO

The Purdy effect is on full display here. Just because we've been fortunate enough to land good QBs lately doesn't necessarily mean every one we draft will be starter material.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
The Purdy effect is on full display here. Just because we've been fortunate enough to land good QBs lately doesn't necessarily mean every one we draft will be starter material.

Agreed! But Bennett would be one of em

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I don't think ppl are maybe understanding what is going on here. BP there is some chance he misses 2023. TL hasn't been able to stay on the field year 1 or year 2. JL knows this and broadcast to everyone that we are actively searching for a QB.

Whoever we add has a real shot at starting games in 2023, due to possible BP or TL unavailability.

I keep telling ya'll who it's going to be. The dude that just won his 2nd Natty. He's going to step in and be able to Challenge Trey from the jump. Then the real battle eill be between he and BP half way through the year.

Heard it here 1st!



That is unless Balt goes that direction before us with losing Lamar and signing Bennett's OC. Which would be genius IMO

The Purdy effect is on full display here. Just because we've been fortunate enough to land good QBs lately doesn't necessarily mean every one we draft will be starter material.

Possibly. I do think QB here is simple stuff. Ball out, short throws to our elite gamebreaking playmakers. Granted BP was going way above and beyond simple stuff.. but our skill guys are so good you can game manage this stuff at that spot.

To keep it on TL.. he can be a force if he just makes the simple throws, avoids turnovers, no need to make this too complicated.. coach has said it is simple stuff.. can you do it?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I mean if it was done when he was a kid unfinished with puberty it's even MORE stupid than if it was just made up.

It's narrative pushing troll s**t…it's crazy that some in here keep trying to post it.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Thanks for the info. I was wondering where ESPN came up with that. If you try to look up Trey's combine results you will see numerous pages stating tha the didn't run a 40 at the combine or at his pro day. They explain why.

Yeah it's nonsense to even bring it up.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
The Purdy effect is on full display here. Just because we've been fortunate enough to land good QBs lately doesn't necessarily mean every one we draft will be starter material.

Agreed! But Bennett would be one of em

Why? Dude could just as well be Colt McCoy or Matt Barkley.