Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup it's ppl just joking about google i think..

You still on the 4.92 thing?

ANYONE can run a slow time for any # of reasons.

Now,...Running an extremely fast time -- as Trey has already done -- is the hard, nearly-impossible thing to do.

How long you going to stay on this, lol? You emphasize how little you know about athletics when you harp on an old slow HS time.

Dude 4.92 is not "slow." Not sure why you're so upset by this. Is it because Jimmy ran a 4.97 so is basically the same speed? Please explain why you're so triggered.

Whatever it is, it's FALSE. And also CLEARLY stupid. He's shown tape of being faster than that. The fact that people genuinely believe this shows how utterly dumb when it comes to fact checking society has become.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
I've seen the 4.92 times and also one in the 4.5 + range. Jerry Rice had a slow 40 time compared to some burners but he turned out ok.

The fact that you're giving the 4.92 any credit is concerning. Jimmy ran a 4.97. Blake Bortles ran a 4.93. Derrek Carr ran a 4.69. Stop believing stupid s**t that is OBVIOUSLY stupid.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2014-combine.htm

That google "40 time" is from the ESPN high school combine. Kids basically do combine like drills in preparation for college recruiting in high school. The only reason that pops up for Lance is because it's the only "official" 40 time for him anywhere…which happened when he was like a 16 yr old kid. Jalen Hurts ran a 4.85 at the same event.

It's painfully obvious the only people that actually use that as justification of anything…are the people that have some weird obsession with hating on Lance. It's gotten to the point where we're using numbers from Hs to prove s**t…which is pretty pathetic.

I mean if it was done when he was a kid unfinished with puberty it's even MORE stupid than if it was just made up.

Peyton Manning ran slower than 4.92 and also threw wobbly passes. Trey will be fine.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Why? Dude could just as well be Colt McCoy or Matt Barkley.

Perhaps but if we are going off of physical traits he matches up with the top guys in the draft.

He's just as accurate as Stroud.
Throws as hard as Levis and Stroud (all 3 clocked know at 59mph)
And as athletic as those 3. Throw in the experience plus his intangibles and he should be talked about as a top tier guy.

So why does his physical traits get overlooked? Because of his stature? He's taller than the guy going #1.

And once again you go straight to the journeymen. Yet comps for your guys is ALWAYS the MVP candidates

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
The Purdy effect is on full display here. Just because we've been fortunate enough to land good QBs lately doesn't necessarily mean every one we draft will be starter material.

Agreed! But Bennett would be one of em

Yeah...a 25, would be 26 year old mid season QB who was smart enough to get arrested during the draft prep process is the answer.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Why? Dude could just as well be Colt McCoy or Matt Barkley.

Perhaps but if we are going off of physical traits he matches up with the top guys in the draft.

He's just as accurate as Stroud.
Throws as hard as Levis and Stroud (all 3 clocked know at 59mph)
And as athletic as those 3. Throw in the experience plus his intangibles and he should be talked about as a top tier guy.

So why does his physical traits get overlooked? Because of his stature? He's taller than the guy going #1.

And once again you go straight to the journeymen. Yet comps for your guys is ALWAYS the MVP candidates

I don't know where he's projected to go, but wouldn't mind picking him up in later rounds and seeing what he could do with Kyle. Has just as mobile, if not more, than Purdy.

This still the Trey Lance thread right? Or is it a draft forum and more of anyone but Trey and even a rookie that has yet to study our playbook or play with our skilled position players.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
This still the Trey Lance thread right? Or is it a draft forum and more of anyone but Trey and even a rookie that has yet to study our playbook or play with our skilled position players.

Posters were discussing 3rd QB behind Purdy and Lance in case Purdy injury takes longer than expected and Lance gets hurt again. It's not too far fetched hat Lance will get hurt again based on his history with us. I'm that case I'd rather go through draft with someone like Bennett instead of an old vet that would cost more money.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
This still the Trey Lance thread right? Or is it a draft forum and more of anyone but Trey and even a rookie that has yet to study our playbook or play with our skilled position players.

Posters were discussing 3rd QB behind Purdy and Lance in case Purdy injury takes longer than expected and Lance gets hurt again. It's not too far fetched hat Lance will get hurt again based on his history with us. I'm that case I'd rather go through draft with someone like Bennett instead of an old vet that would cost more money.

If Brock's injury is longer than we all hope for then having a rookie as QB2 would be incredibly stupid. Even with Brock the plan was never for him to be QB2 until Trey got hurt.

Once they were able to get Garoppolo to take the paycut they felt secure enough in keeping Brock on the active roster with a vet as QB2 they knew they can win games with.

Any rookie QB whether drafted or UDFA will be on the PS in all likelihood. Although the higher up we take one(assuming we draft one) they may stick on the 53 man roster but as QB3 at best imo.

speaking of TL any chance we go all in on Lamar Jackson? If you are looking for 11 v 11 positionless football, is that not the guy you want?

he does run faster than 4.92

just a joke about the 4.92 we all know TL is faster than that, but imagine a Lamar / TL room, and if Lamar went down we have TL.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
This still the Trey Lance thread right? Or is it a draft forum and more of anyone but Trey and even a rookie that has yet to study our playbook or play with our skilled position players.

Posters were discussing 3rd QB behind Purdy and Lance in case Purdy injury takes longer than expected and Lance gets hurt again. It's not too far fetched hat Lance will get hurt again based on his history with us. I'm that case I'd rather go through draft with someone like Bennett instead of an old vet that would cost more money.

If Brock's injury is longer than we all hope for then having a rookie as QB2 would be incredibly stupid. Even with Brock the plan was never for him to be QB2 until Trey got hurt.

Once they were able to get Garoppolo to take the paycut they felt secure enough in keeping Brock on the active roster with a vet as QB2 they knew they can win games with.

Any rookie QB whether drafted or UDFA will be on the PS in all likelihood. Although the higher up we take one(assuming we draft one) they may stick on the 53 man roster but as QB3 at best imo.

That's just my preference. I'd rather go with the unknown than a known 'meh' vet that will cost a lot more money as QB3. in your opinion, it was "incredibly stupid" to go with a rookie as QB2 in 2021, but Kyle thought otherwise.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
speaking of TL any chance we go all in on Lamar Jackson? If you are looking for 11 v 11 positionless football, is that not the guy you want?

he does run faster than 4.92

just a joke about the 4.92 we all know TL is faster than that, but imagine a Lamar / TL room, and if Lamar went down we have TL.

Could've used the 3 first and 3rd on the trade package to acquire LJ in the first place.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
This still the Trey Lance thread right? Or is it a draft forum and more of anyone but Trey and even a rookie that has yet to study our playbook or play with our skilled position players.

Posters were discussing 3rd QB behind Purdy and Lance in case Purdy injury takes longer than expected and Lance gets hurt again. It's not too far fetched hat Lance will get hurt again based on his history with us. I'm that case I'd rather go through draft with someone like Bennett instead of an old vet that would cost more money.

If Brock's injury is longer than we all hope for then having a rookie as QB2 would be incredibly stupid. Even with Brock the plan was never for him to be QB2 until Trey got hurt.

Once they were able to get Garoppolo to take the paycut they felt secure enough in keeping Brock on the active roster with a vet as QB2 they knew they can win games with.

Any rookie QB whether drafted or UDFA will be on the PS in all likelihood. Although the higher up we take one(assuming we draft one) they may stick on the 53 man roster but as QB3 at best imo.

That's just my preference. I'd rather go with the unknown than a known 'meh' vet that will cost a lot more money as QB3. in your opinion, it was "incredibly stupid" to go with a rookie as QB2 in 2021, but Kyle thought otherwise.

Going with a rookie as QB2 when you have a proven vet as QB1 and that QB2 is 3rd overall pick you traded so much for after a 6-10 season is VASTLY different than going into another season with a rookie you likely take no earlier than bottom of the 3rd round with QB1 potentially being a guy coming off a broken ankle injury having only 4ish NFL starts under his belt and being 3 years YOUNGER than that rookie QB after back to back NFCCG seasons.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
speaking of TL any chance we go all in on Lamar Jackson? If you are looking for 11 v 11 positionless football, is that not the guy you want?

he does run faster than 4.92

just a joke about the 4.92 we all know TL is faster than that, but imagine a Lamar / TL room, and if Lamar went down we have TL.

Could've used the 3 first and 3rd on the trade package to acquire LJ in the first place.

Could've drafted Tom Brady instead of Gio Carmazzi and had a whole bunch of SBs by now. If we're gonna use hindsight then lets do it right.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
That's just my preference. I'd rather go with the unknown than a known 'meh' vet that will cost a lot more money as QB3. in your opinion, it was "incredibly stupid" to go with a rookie as QB2 in 2021, but Kyle thought otherwise.

It would be a hell of a lot more reasonable to allow a top 5 pick at QB to be an unknown QB2, than it would a rookie drafted later than the 3rd round. And that's also not addressing the fact that in 21, we knew we had a QB1 to start the season we could win with, and that's not necessarily the case now.

Originally posted by genus49:
Going with a rookie as QB2 when you have a proven vet as QB1 and that QB2 is 3rd overall pick you traded so much for after a 6-10 season is VASTLY different than going into another season with a rookie you likely take no earlier than bottom of the 3rd round with QB1 potentially being a guy coming off a broken ankle injury having only 4ish NFL starts under his belt and being 3 years YOUNGER than that rookie QB after back to back NFCCG seasons.

Yup

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
speaking of TL any chance we go all in on Lamar Jackson? If you are looking for 11 v 11 positionless football, is that not the guy you want?

he does run faster than 4.92

just a joke about the 4.92 we all know TL is faster than that, but imagine a Lamar / TL room, and if Lamar went down we have TL.

Could've used the 3 first and 3rd on the trade package to acquire LJ in the first place.

just realized we have not shot at Lamar cuz we don't own the rights to our first in the upcoming draft so we can't even offer
only teams that own their original 1st in this and next years draft can offer

the TL trade cancels out our first this year, next year we could offer on a non exclusive tagged player, provided we retain our ones.