Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Koldo:
I'm not 100% confident Trey can beat out Darnold for QB2.

If it were a straight up QB competition, I agree with you. But Trey Lance is gonna get every opportunity to be the starter, basically handed the job again.

sure but if TL is struggling in July and Darnold is on fire; KS may have to reevaluate; point is we don't know, summer is a long way off and it will be up to the guys, they effectively will set the chart with how they look and perform all summer

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Koldo:
I'm not 100% confident Trey can beat out Darnold for QB2.

If it were a straight up QB competition, I agree with you. But Trey Lance is gonna get every opportunity to be the starter, basically handed the job again.

Oh boy, I think you found a narrative that you can roll with all year to make yourself feel better.

So you're telling me he'll be competing with Darnold?? When has Trey Lance won the job outright or ever in competition??

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:
The discussion has been about signing a worthy backup, not a bad backup. I don't think you're following the discussion.

It's subjective who is worthy and who isn't. My take is it's gonna be a real guy or to make that objective, someone with more starts in the NFL than BP and TL put together.

The room really lacks experience. 9 career starts with 2 guys. Could be wrong here but if I am JL I want a experienced, steady hand. Very real chance this guy starts games, as BP is rehabbing a loong time and TL has a very hard time staying on the field to date.

welp, that was quick

may seem like common sense now, but realize this take got some resistance a week ago

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Hahahaha. Yes we are just like the Carolina panthers!!!!!

No SF wins games

In spite of that move.

I also should argue the niners would have won a superbowl without that move had they used those wasted picks to shore up the weaknesses. Like oline.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Koldo:
I'm not 100% confident Trey can beat out Darnold for QB2.

If it were a straight up QB competition, I agree with you. But Trey Lance is gonna get every opportunity to be the starter, basically handed the job again.

Oh boy, I think you found a narrative that you can roll with all year to make yourself feel better.

So you're telling me he'll be competing with Darnold?? When has Trey Lance won the job outright or ever in competition??

Every year unproven QBs are in a competition for the job, whether it's announced as that or not. If Kyle likes what he sees from another QB more than what he sees from Lance, he'll probably play him. When Wilson won the starting job over Flynn in Seattle, that wasn't an open competition, Wilson simply showed more than Flynn. Since Purdy won't be healthy until the season is in progress, there isn't going to be a competition, unless you count Darnold. But Kyle is not playing Lance over Darnold if Darnold looks better, so I guess that's the closest you'll get.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:
The discussion has been about signing a worthy backup, not a bad backup. I don't think you're following the discussion.

It's subjective who is worthy and who isn't. My take is it's gonna be a real guy or to make that objective, someone with more starts in the NFL than BP and TL put together.

The room really lacks experience. 9 career starts with 2 guys. Could be wrong here but if I am JL I want a experienced, steady hand. Very real chance this guy starts games, as BP is rehabbing a loong time and TL has a very hard time staying on the field to date.

welp, that was quick

may seem like common sense now, but realize this take got some resistance a week ago

It was about how much to spend, not who the QB is. If Darnold was signed for $6+, which was where the "resistance" came from, then you and Lynch are in line with your thinking. Spending good money on a QB2/3 instead of using that money for an every down player was the discussion. At least for me.

Trey Lance will get injured if Kyle runs him like Jalen Hurts even at 50% of Jalen's run rate . Otherwise I expect him to be ironman-like from here on out.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Koldo:
I'm not 100% confident Trey can beat out Darnold for QB2.

If it were a straight up QB competition, I agree with you. But Trey Lance is gonna get every opportunity to be the starter, basically handed the job again.

Oh boy, I think you found a narrative that you can roll with all year to make yourself feel better.

So you're telling me he'll be competing with Darnold?? When has Trey Lance won the job outright or ever in competition??

Every year unproven QBs are in a competition for the job, whether it's announced as that or not. If Kyle likes what he sees from another QB more than what he sees from Lance, he'll probably play him. When Wilson won the starting job over Flynn in Seattle, that wasn't an open competition, Wilson simply showed more than Flynn. Since Purdy won't be healthy until the season is in progress, there isn't going to be a competition, unless you count Darnold. But Kyle is not playing Lance over Darnold if Darnold looks better, so I guess that's the closest you'll get.

Did you just mention Seattle history then pass it over like it was relevant to 9er history?? There is no QB competition. Lol

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:
The discussion has been about signing a worthy backup, not a bad backup. I don't think you're following the discussion.

It's subjective who is worthy and who isn't. My take is it's gonna be a real guy or to make that objective, someone with more starts in the NFL than BP and TL put together.

The room really lacks experience. 9 career starts with 2 guys. Could be wrong here but if I am JL I want a experienced, steady hand. Very real chance this guy starts games, as BP is rehabbing a loong time and TL has a very hard time staying on the field to date.

welp, that was quick

may seem like common sense now, but realize this take got some resistance a week ago

It was about how much to spend, not who the QB is. If Darnold was signed for $6+, which was where the "resistance" came from, then you and Lynch are in line with your thinking. Spending good money on a QB2/3 instead of using that money for an every down player was the discussion. At least for me.

Read my quote it wasn't about dollars to me it was about a real guy and I defined that in clear black or white terms of # of starts. Sam has 55 so JG level (Jimmy has 57).

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:
The discussion has been about signing a worthy backup, not a bad backup. I don't think you're following the discussion.

It's subjective who is worthy and who isn't. My take is it's gonna be a real guy or to make that objective, someone with more starts in the NFL than BP and TL put together.

The room really lacks experience. 9 career starts with 2 guys. Could be wrong here but if I am JL I want a experienced, steady hand. Very real chance this guy starts games, as BP is rehabbing a loong time and TL has a very hard time staying on the field to date.

welp, that was quick

may seem like common sense now, but realize this take got some resistance a week ago

It was about how much to spend, not who the QB is. If Darnold was signed for $6+, which was where the "resistance" came from, then you and Lynch are in line with your thinking. Spending good money on a QB2/3 instead of using that money for an every down player was the discussion. At least for me.

Read my quote it wasn't about dollars to me it was about a real guy and I defined that in clear black or white terms of # of starts. Sam has 55 so JG level (Jimmy has 57).

Ah ok. I never said anything about number of starts.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:
The discussion has been about signing a worthy backup, not a bad backup. I don't think you're following the discussion.

It's subjective who is worthy and who isn't. My take is it's gonna be a real guy or to make that objective, someone with more starts in the NFL than BP and TL put together.

The room really lacks experience. 9 career starts with 2 guys. Could be wrong here but if I am JL I want a experienced, steady hand. Very real chance this guy starts games, as BP is rehabbing a loong time and TL has a very hard time staying on the field to date.

welp, that was quick

may seem like common sense now, but realize this take got some resistance a week ago

It was about how much to spend, not who the QB is. If Darnold was signed for $6+, which was where the "resistance" came from, then you and Lynch are in line with your thinking. Spending good money on a QB2/3 instead of using that money for an every down player was the discussion. At least for me.

Read my quote it wasn't about dollars to me it was about a real guy and I defined that in clear black or white terms of # of starts. Sam has 55 so JG level (Jimmy has 57).

Ah ok. I never said anything about number of starts.

all good

I know folks didn't want to spend too much and although I have yet to see the figures; I bet Sam here is dirt cheap..

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by eastie:
What's better about it? Winning is everything. Weather by one point or twenty as long as we win we're good. If the formula is working we stick with it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

The Trey stans Crack me up with their irony

The irony* is how the Jimmy stans missed the nuances that make the situations different, as they always have.

The issue with wanting someone better than Jimmy is that we were winning with a QB who wasn't the reason we were winning, and if we improved that position enough, we were getting ring six. THE DIFFERENCES here are that (a) This would be in the middle of the season, not in the off-season when we have time to search for a better QB and get him acclimated; (b) the alternate QB would be one coming off injury and surgery who missed the entire off-season, maybe be extremely rusty, and may have lingering issues related to the injury and surgery.

In the realistic scenario of this season possibly playing out, if you're winning and in the middle of the season, it's usually NOT a good idea to swap QBs and risk messing things up unless you have to. In the OFF-SEASON, looking for ways to make your team better is the entire purpose of everything you do, and whatever changes you make, you'll have time to fully implement them and make sure they're sound and ready to go.

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*Not sure what constitutes irony anymore. Not sure what constitutes "literally" either. English sucks.

Originally posted by Koldo:
I'm not 100% confident Trey can beat out Darnold for QB2.

How bout you put your money where your mouth is?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Koldo:
I'm not 100% confident Trey can beat out Darnold for QB2.

If it were a straight up QB competition, I agree with you. But Trey Lance is gonna get every opportunity to be the starter, basically handed the job again.

sure but if TL is struggling in July and Darnold is on fire; KS may have to reevaluate; point is we don't know, summer is a long way off and it will be up to the guys, they effectively will set the chart with how they look and perform all summer

Has Darnold ever been on fire? A few folks on here say he was on fire this past season right before getting benched.

Trey has some serious talent, and he's smart. I don't think Darnold is on Trey's level and he never will be.

I think it's 50/50 he gets traded on draft day. Titans for their second rounder?