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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by KiwiM3:
Originally posted by JaggedJ:
It would suck, but if Trey doesn't pan out because of Purdy then I think all will be forgiven.

The only thing that matters is you have "The Guy". 3rd overall, Mr Irrelevant, 3rd rounder, whatever. If you have him then you have him.

100% this.

It's like people who b***h about first round whiffs but then conveniently forget we got the likes of Kittle in the 5th round.

Every single regime fails at certain picks. The key is to hit on enough of them, whether that be first round, 5th round, Mr Irrelevant, whatever.

It's because Mr Irrelevants and 5th round picks are more like gambles. They are players that our FO didn't think would be what they are and didn't mind missing out on. We've made a living off gambling so far, but that's not reliable.

The trade ups for Kyles "must have" guys like Lance, Pettis, Joe Williams, Beathard along with whiffing so much in the first is definitely concerning

Ya definitely concerning. We only have one of the best rosters in the league.

Getting lucky on 5th rounders and the last pick is f**king awesome, but like I said I don't see it as sustainable. I think they need to start hitting more on their 1st rounders and guys they really want and trade up for (Pettis, Joe Williams, etc) because our late round luck could easily run out

I think we hit too often on R4+ picks for it to be purely luck. If anything I think our early rounders have been a little too reach for need at times rather than BPA.

The later in the draft, the more luck is involved. These are guys that have been passed on multiple times at that point.

It's even more evident by their misses in the 1st and on their trade ups. If they were really that good, they wouldn't whiff so damn bad on those

The entire draft is luck. Every team in the league would have drafted Solomon Thomas in the top ten. Guess what, some guys just don't live up to their potential. The fact we've consistently got good players throughout the draft, and built one of the best rosters in the league, tells me this FO and coaching is among the best in the league. For f**k's sake, the criticism is completely unfounded. Whiny ass fanbase full of armchair geniuses who would've made all the right moves in retrospect.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's not purely luck, there's just more luck involved, especially when we're hitting on the last pick. Some guys like Kittle just come out and exceed everyone's expectations. It's not anything we predicted (or we would've traded up like Beathard to grab him), it's a lot of luck

It's happening far too often for it to be purely/mostly luck.

They are hitting on mid-late rounders again and again.

This is coming up to draft number 7 in this regime.
[ Edited by KiwiM3 on Mar 14, 2023 at 9:26 AM ]
Originally posted by KiwiM3:
It's happening far too often for it to be purely/mostly luck.

They are hitting on mid-late rounders again and again.

This is coming up to draft number 7 in this regime.

when it comes to draft and luck there is a certain logic to having played the QB position. that's why a lot of coaches are former QBs like Reich, Pederson, Sean P, etc.

those guys see the game with a QBs eyes and often owners want that kind of guy when drafting a top QB. For example, Pederson was brought in to mentor Lawrence and Reich just brought in to mentor whoever they are taking #1, and evaluate those guys to an extent. I think this aspect is a big reason why we added Griese to the staff.
Originally posted by KiwiM3:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's not purely luck, there's just more luck involved, especially when we're hitting on the last pick. Some guys like Kittle just come out and exceed everyone's expectations. It's not anything we predicted (or we would've traded up like Beathard to grab him), it's a lot of luck

It's happening far too often for it to be purely/mostly luck.

They are hitting on mid-late rounders again and again.

This is coming up to draft number 7 in this regime.

C. Ward, our #1 CB was a undrafted free agent.
[ Edited by glorydayz on Mar 14, 2023 at 9:31 AM ]
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What's Trey's market value? If Tennessee comes calling on draft day offering their 2nd and 3rd picks in this years draft, do you pull the trigger?
Originally posted by bigpete50:
What's Trey's market value? If Tennessee comes calling on draft day offering their 2nd and 3rd picks in this years draft, do you pull the trigger?

Yes absolutely that's great compensation for an unknown who hasn't proven anything yet.
Originally posted by bigpete50:
What's Trey's market value? If Tennessee comes calling on draft day offering their 2nd and 3rd picks in this years draft, do you pull the trigger?

No. It's too much dead money for that return. It would take an offer we aren't going to get to even consider it.

That's not factoring the idea that Lance still has potential, even if we are not planning around it* anymore.
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Mar 14, 2023 at 11:20 AM ]
Yes, if TN offers a 3rd say good bye to TL
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Yes, if TN offers a 3rd say good bye to TL

Goodbye to TL so we can draft this year's Sermon or TDP
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Goodbye to TL so we can draft this year's Sermon or TDP

We going to blow that pick for sure!
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by bigpete50:
What's Trey's market value? If Tennessee comes calling on draft day offering their 2nd and 3rd picks in this years draft, do you pull the trigger?

Yes absolutely that's great compensation for an unknown who hasn't proven anything yet.

And who would be our starting QB come week 1?

I think It would take a lot for the 9ers to even consider trading away QB1 ( TL )
Originally posted by Sickaa:
And who would be our starting QB come week 1?

I think It would take a lot for the 9ers to even consider trading away QB1 ( TL )

it's not even on the table KS and JL would laugh you out of the room

we got year 3 and year 4 under contract and year 5 if we opt in
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Yes, if TN offers a 3rd say good bye to TL

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