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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Imo Lance starts the season and if they are winning he remains the starter.

This is exactly how it will play out. If he is winning he sticks. One guy said he does not care who we are starting as long as we are winning but he hopes it is Brock. Well if Brock starts at any point this season it is because we were losing with Trey. Or because we lost Trey to injury. I don't want any losses of games or players so I am hoping the guy that starts the season ends it with a postseason win. Since it will be Trey starting week 1 barring injury I am hoping he ends the season with a postseason win

I'd rather have Purdy because he's show that he can win different types of games - unless his arm is nearly ripped off. Lance can't win when it's pouring rain and he has a cannon. That's why I want Purdy, I'm just more confident he can pull off multiple wins and doesn't need a perfect situation - IE the raiders game.

Lance could change all that this upcoming season. It'll be interesting, he's only played a couple of games.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Mar 15, 2023 at 12:17 AM ]
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by jimmy3233:
as long as Lance stays healthy, he keeps the job. I truly believe he will win games with his arm this year. Purdy did amazing but in the end suffered a major injury that will likely sideline him for the beginning of the season and leave him susceptible to reinjure if we try to force him back in there too soon.

Love how haters judge Lance on the first game of season played away in a monsoon in which our defense gave up multiple 3rd and longs with missed sacks, stupid penalties, and completely blown coverages (so bad that one of the worst QBs in the league was able to take advantage of, though he is a solid RB).

Let's ignore the one game where he played really well against a surging Texans team last year in a must win game. A team just beating the great Justin Herbert...

On not the Monsoon BS again? That excuse has long been debunked. Better look for a new one in the Misfiring QB Excuse and Troubleshooting Book.


Yep that is the end and the last 5 minutes or so was like that. He had already lost the game by then being out played by Fields.

yeah....no...
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I agree with you to an extent.

How good has Trey Lance been? I don't know, he hasn't been out there long enough to tell. I think this is Trey's team wether I like it or not three 1st round picks speaks volumes. I hope we play the best guy regardless but I understand QB politics and front office jobs being attached to the three picks we traded for Lance.

I keep asking myself has this happened before and I keep going back to RG3 & Kirk Cousins (not because of how they look).

I'd agree but those three first round picks are all essentially past - after this draft. Everything we forked up for him has essentially passed and we don't know anything more about him than the day we drafted him. Personally, and I don't think the team would ever say this publicly, I think they've been underwhelmed by him. I know every fan has besides the ones who hang onto "potential". All I care about are results. Truthfully, the team is better off dumping him as an experiment and trying to make it work with Purdys contract. I'm not saying get rid of him, but stop trying to force him as the starter.

I think he's lost the whole "have to give him a chance cause of draft picks". This league is about what have you done for me lately and whether it's lances fault or not - he's been outplayed by everyone else that's started for this team during his tenure and has never won the starting job; it's only been given to him. Couple that with the fact everything we gave up for him has nearly passed, he would have to beat out Purdy for the job at this point and I think it's highly unlikely that Happens.

i don't think Lance is a bad QB but I don't ever see him being a star like he was drafted to be. He might be better off leaving anyways cause fans will never want him unless he becomes a bonafide top 5 QB annually, because of what we traded for him.

Lance could be a bad QB but he could also be a good one. He hasn't played because during his rookie season our coaches liked Jimmy G (or because of JG's contract at the time) and then because of a broken ankle.

Has he been developed?

You could be right and both the #2 & #3 picks in that draft may be busts but I don't know how a guy that hasn't played can be labeled a bust.
Originally posted by Goatie:
On not the Monsoon BS again? That excuse has long been debunked. Better look for a new one in the Misfiring QB Excuse and Troubleshooting Book.

What is your problem man? We all know the root of your distain for Lance is because people were over Jimmy and you weren't.

there's a massive difference criticizing a 30 yr old vet with over 50 starts and a 22 yr old QB who's got 100 passing attempts. Get over it, Jimmy is officially gone. Taking your frustration out on Lance because of how some people treated Jimmy towards the end of his tenure is childish.

Give the kid a fair shot to fail before claiming he blows. Tossing out stupid takes like he was outplayed by fields is a kindergarten take football wise. Acting like the weather wasn't awful and a lot of throws didn't happen when it was truly a monsoon (which will affects stats) is a straight up lie.

The amount of hate this kid has received from his own fan base without having the chance to actually play meaningful BAD football is beyond stupid.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Lance could be a bad QB but he could also be a good one. He hasn't played because during his rookie season our coaches liked Jimmy G (or because of JG's contract at the time) and then because of a broken ankle.

Has he been developed?

You could be right and both the #2 & #3 picks in that draft may be busts but I don't know how a guy that hasn't played can be labeled a bust.

People act like when he did play that is was all trash…which is objectively false. No he wasn't Mahomes out the gate, but no has even been that.

people forget how incredibly young the kid is and was when he played his only yr in college (19).

maybe he will never be our guy, but we will never know until he actually gets to play meaningful football. Shocking for some (mainly the ones that loved Jimmy or hated the pick).
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'd rather have Purdy because he's show that he can win different types of games - unless his arm is nearly ripped off. Lance can't win when it's pouring rain and he has a cannon. That's why I want Purdy, I'm just more confident he can pull off multiple wins and doesn't need a perfect situation - IE the raiders game.

Lance could change all that this upcoming season. It'll be interesting, he's only played a couple of games.

Playing on this team with Kyle Shanahan CMC Kittle Trent Williams Deebo Aiyuk Juice with E Mitchell in relief is the PERFECT SITUATION!

Not Trey nor Brock can play on this team with these guys healthy complain that it isn't a perfect situation
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Mar 16, 2023 at 12:02 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Lance could be a bad QB but he could also be a good one. He hasn't played because during his rookie season our coaches liked Jimmy G (or because of JG's contract at the time) and then because of a broken ankle.

Has he been developed?

You could be right and both the #2 & #3 picks in that draft may be busts but I don't know how a guy that hasn't played can be labeled a bust.

People act like when he did play that is was all trash…which is objectively false. No he wasn't Mahomes out the gate, but no has even been that.

people forget how incredibly young the kid is and was when he played his only yr in college (19).

maybe he will never be our guy, but we will never know until he actually gets to play meaningful football. Shocking for some (mainly the ones that loved Jimmy or hated the pick).

I find it hard to believe that the hatred is football related after just 4 games.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Lance could be a bad QB but he could also be a good one. He hasn't played because during his rookie season our coaches liked Jimmy G (or because of JG's contract at the time) and then because of a broken ankle.

Has he been developed?

You could be right and both the #2 & #3 picks in that draft may be busts but I don't know how a guy that hasn't played can be labeled a bust.

People act like when he did play that is was all trash…which is objectively false. No he wasn't Mahomes out the gate, but no has even been that.

people forget how incredibly young the kid is and was when he played his only yr in college (19).

maybe he will never be our guy, but we will never know until he actually gets to play meaningful football. Shocking for some (mainly the ones that loved Jimmy or hated the pick).

I find it hard to believe that the hatred is football related after just 4 games.

All Facts
Originally posted by krizay:

Still in here 😂
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Lance could be a bad QB but he could also be a good one. He hasn't played because during his rookie season our coaches liked Jimmy G (or because of JG's contract at the time) and then because of a broken ankle.

Has he been developed?

You could be right and both the #2 & #3 picks in that draft may be busts but I don't know how a guy that hasn't played can be labeled a bust.

People act like when he did play that is was all trash…which is objectively false. No he wasn't Mahomes out the gate, but no has even been that.

people forget how incredibly young the kid is and was when he played his only yr in college (19).

maybe he will never be our guy, but we will never know until he actually gets to play meaningful football. Shocking for some (mainly the ones that loved Jimmy or hated the pick).

I find it hard to believe that the hatred is football related after just 4 games.

Oh it's more than football. For sure.

we literally have a bunch of the same posters propping up Sam freaking Darnold (hmmm) after there being over 50 starts of him being consistently one of the worst starting QBs in the NFL.

meanwhile Lance is a bust/sucks after 100 sporadic passing attempts in his short ass career.

give me a f**king break.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Still in here 😂

Still defending a grown man like he's your 4 year old son.
If I want drama in my life, I know to check the Lance thread lol. All this drama, for what? Lol.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Lance could be a bad QB but he could also be a good one. He hasn't played because during his rookie season our coaches liked Jimmy G (or because of JG's contract at the time) and then because of a broken ankle.

Has he been developed?

You could be right and both the #2 & #3 picks in that draft may be busts but I don't know how a guy that hasn't played can be labeled a bust.

People act like when he did play that is was all trash…which is objectively false. No he wasn't Mahomes out the gate, but no has even been that.

people forget how incredibly young the kid is and was when he played his only yr in college (19).

maybe he will never be our guy, but we will never know until he actually gets to play meaningful football. Shocking for some (mainly the ones that loved Jimmy or hated the pick).

I find it hard to believe that the hatred is football related after just 4 games.

All Facts

This makes no sense. If this was true then they would hate majority of the team. Why can't it boil down to the type of playing style you prefer? If Trey Lance was on another team would the same posters view Lance like they do now or like say Paxton Lynch? Who himself only had 4 starts in 2 years and has only thrown 20 something odd passes more than Trey.

Not everything has to be about race. I'm willing to bet that the majority of us "haters" like some variation of Fields, Young and/or Stroud. While al ot of us "haters" likely view Anthony Richardson in the same lens as Trey.
[ Edited by krizay on Mar 15, 2023 at 5:18 AM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Imo Lance starts the season and if they are winning he remains the starter.

This is exactly how it will play out. If he is winning he sticks. One guy said he does not care who we are starting as long as we are winning but he hopes it is Brock. Well if Brock starts at any point this season it is because we were losing with Trey. Or because we lost Trey to injury. I don't want any losses of games or players so I am hoping the guy that starts the season ends it with a postseason win. Since it will be Trey starting week 1 barring injury I am hoping he ends the season with a postseason win

I'd rather have Purdy because he's show that he can win different types of games - unless his arm is nearly ripped off. Lance can't win when it's pouring rain and he has a cannon. That's why I want Purdy, I'm just more confident he can pull off multiple wins and doesn't need a perfect situation - IE the raiders game.

Lance could change all that this upcoming season. It'll be interesting, he's only played a couple of games.

You gotta realize the monsoon game wasn't just "not a perfect situation." I'd be willing to bet Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, etc would have struggled in that environment. How can you say for a fact Purdy would have faired better than Lance?

Purdy balled out for multiple reasons. One of them being he knew he was it. There was no one else left to breathe down his back on the sideline. If Purdy starts week 1 of last year, I can almost guarantee he doesn't replicate that success he had. Different situations. Being the week 1 starter is different than coming in week 10 as the only option (plus having CMC).

I'll caveat all this by saying I'm a Lance guy and it's all my opinion. I just don't see anyone having success in that situation. Fields played OK because he was at home and atleast had a full season under his belt. We really need to throw that Chicago game away when talking about Lance.
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