Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Wouldn't we have to eat 20 mil in dead cap if we traded Lance? That's definitely not gonna happen if that's the case.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

The most overhyped 150 yds of all time

Didn't Deebo do a Deebo thing and run for a third of that on one play. We scored 0 TDs. Yet I've read 1000 posts about that 13 or so mins of TD-less football like it was the end of SB 23. Let's get a lil fair and balanced. Dude completed 2 passes. I'm all about TL dominating but I can't point to anything from 2022 as the reason why. It's more based on his talent, and the opportunity of seizing this job this offseason year 3 with KS & TL.

Yes but this is just magical football that no QB could ever do

Brock Purdy to Deebo Samuel for the 74-yard TD! LFG! #49ers pic.twitter.com/16mmv1K38Y

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) January 15, 2023

The point that I'm making is people act like this offense couldn't do anything with Lance and that's a straight up lie. Sorry Wilson didn't get in from the 2 yard line vs Seattle. Sorry Jennings tripped on a slot fade on what would have been a walk in TD vs the bears during the rain.

Do Brock's numbers drop in multiple categories if you take these plays away? Treys do, which means he can only do the easy s**t that any QB can do. Those are the plays he accumulates on. We need better than that

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

I'm mean if that was Jimmy you'd be defending him to the death with a massive erection 😂

Jimmy has far more stats that get overlooked or isn't credible because of who you guys portray him to be.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You've narrowed it to one game against his weakest opponent lol. Again, no Jalen and Allen's numbers/production did not depend on a couple of throws.

They both looked much better than Trey did to start. His game against the Texans obviously wasn't as spectuacular as the numbers look if a taped together Jimmy was seen as a better option. Give it up

f**k yes they did lol. No they most certainly did not….go watch Allen vs the Packers/Titans/Houston his first season. You clearly didn't.

Hurts is STILL benefiting from running RPOs and one one one slot fades. He's not dicing up coverages. It's a s**t ton of predetermined reads…which is fine it works for them along with all the read option stuff.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

I'm mean if that was Jimmy you'd be defending him to the death with a massive erection 😂

You call people out for loving Jimmy, but it just seems that it's the same with you with Lance. He can do no wrong, and you're willing to minimize what purdy did to elevate Lance.

I'm all for finding the best player, but you wanting to be right on Lance is outweighing your desire for this team's success.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

I'm mean if that was Jimmy you'd be defending him to the death with a massive erection 😂

Jimmy has far more stats that get overlooked or isn't credible because of who you guys portray him to be.

No need to portray anything. Jimmy got 8 years to prove his worth. Trey completed 3 games and you would "love to trade him".

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes but this is just magical football that no QB could ever do

Brock Purdy to Deebo Samuel for the 74-yard TD! LFG! #49ers pic.twitter.com/16mmv1K38Y

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) January 15, 2023

The point that I'm making is people act like this offense couldn't do anything with Lance and that's a straight up lie. Sorry Wilson didn't get in from the 2 yard line vs Seattle. Sorry Jennings tripped on a slot fade on what would have been a walk in TD vs the bears during the rain.

TL is a question mark with a lot of upside and downside; both directions. You can be optimistic without blowing smoke about what took place last season.

I agree QB here is simple stuff. Can these guys do it? BP could and did, but coming back from injury is another convo. A lot of QBs don't get or have 3 offseasons with the same team / HC. TL does now. Lot of months for him to improve this summer.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Give it up. Jalen benefited from the exact same things you claim boosted Trey's numbers. I even provided what Trey's stats looked like if you took away that 45 yard completion to Deebo. His completion % and YPA were still great in that game.

You've narrowed it to one game against his weakest opponent lol. Again, no Jalen and Allen's numbers/production did not depend on a couple of throws.

They both looked much better than Trey did to start. His game against the Texans obviously wasn't as spectuacular as the numbers look if a taped together Jimmy was seen as a better option. Give it up

That is straight bs. I provided all 3 QB's 1st four games passing performances. I only excluded that one play in the Texans game because Jalen Hurts 2nd start was brought up and the argument that Trey's numbers were inflated by a wide open Deebo which I proved were still great without it in his 2nd start respectively. Now you want to move the goalposts for like the 4th time in this debate to strength of opponent. Do we really need to go that far? Or can you just accept the fact that Hurts and Allen were no better than Lance when they first started.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Jimmy has far more stats that get overlooked or isn't credible because of who you guys portray him to be.

What do I portray him as?

He's an avg starting NFL QB who can't stay on the field, had issues when pressured, & can't throw outside the numbers. He's not good with post snap recognization. Great release time, awesome at throwing those in breaking routes and he's seems like a great locker room guy that I could chill and have a beer with.

Jimmy did absolutely nothing vs the packers in the NFCC. Yet all of you loved him. Lance helps the team put 150 yards on 17 plays and it's all laughable s**t from you and the Jimmy crowd. So which is it??

Originally posted by braap49er:
Wouldn't we have to eat 20 mil in dead cap if we traded Lance? That's definitely not gonna happen if that's the case.

Dont know. But PFF allowed me to trade Lance to the Titans for their 2nd and 3rd rounders in this year's and next year's drafts

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

You've narrowed it to one game against his weakest opponent lol. Again, no Jalen and Allen's numbers/production did not depend on a couple of throws.

They both looked much better than Trey did to start. His game against the Texans obviously wasn't as spectuacular as the numbers look if a taped together Jimmy was seen as a better option. Give it up

f**k yes they did lol. No they most certainly did not….go watch Allen vs the Packers/Titans/Houston his first season. You clearly didn't.

Hurts is STILL benefiting from running RPOs and one one one slot fades. He's not dicing up coverages. It's a s**t ton of predetermined reads…which is fine it works for them along with all the read option stuff.

I don't care about dicing up coverages and making reads lol. The production is there. That's all that matters. If Trey were a monster runner and could put up 30+ a game without throwing that's fine too. I want QB that produces and wins. Not Kirk Cousins and his beautiful field reading. When you look at Treys overall production compared to Hirts and Allen in the beginning they were both better. Watching the film makes that even more clear

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by braap49er:
Wouldn't we have to eat 20 mil in dead cap if we traded Lance? That's definitely not gonna happen if that's the case.

Dont know. But PFF allowed me to trade Lance to the Titans for their 2nd and 3rd rounders in this year's and next year's drafts

We get about ten million in penalties and about ten million in dead money IIRC. The compensation will have to be tremendous given that.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You've narrowed it to one game against his weakest opponent lol. Again, no Jalen and Allen's numbers/production did not depend on a couple of throws.

They both looked much better than Trey did to start. His game against the Texans obviously wasn't as spectuacular as the numbers look if a taped together Jimmy was seen as a better option. Give it up

f**k yes they did lol. No they most certainly did not….go watch Allen vs the Packers/Titans/Houston his first season. You clearly didn't.

Hurts is STILL benefiting from running RPOs and one one one slot fades. He's not dicing up coverages. It's a s**t ton of predetermined reads…which is fine it works for them along with all the read option stuff.

I don't care about dicing up coverages and making reads lol. The production is there. That's all that matters. If Trey were a monster runner and could put up 30+ a game without throwing that's fine too. I want QB that produces and wins. Not Kirk Cousins and his beautiful field reading. When you look at Treys overall production compared to Hirts and Allen in the beginning they were both better. Watching the film makes that even more clear

No, they were not. Are you f**king blind or just retarded?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I don't care about dicing up coverages and making reads lol. The production is there. That's all that matters. If Trey were a monster runner and could put up 30+ a game without throwing that's fine too. I want QB that produces and wins. Not Kirk Cousins and his beautiful field reading. When you look at Treys overall production compared to Hirts and Allen in the beginning they were both better. Watching the film makes that even more clear

You should. That's what all the cool QBs that have long careers are doing.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

No, they were not. Are you f**king blind or just retarded?

Dude they showed more. An accumulation of the first games stats does not disprove anything lol