Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

I don't care about dicing up coverages and making reads lol. The production is there. That's all that matters. If Trey were a monster runner and could put up 30+ a game without throwing that's fine too. I want QB that produces and wins. Not Kirk Cousins and his beautiful field reading. When you look at Treys overall production compared to Hirts and Allen in the beginning they were both better. Watching the film makes that even more clear

You should. That's what all the cool QBs that have long careers are doing.

That's what history tells us, but the game is changing and the top guys aren't just statues reading the D all game. It's definitely a trait you want, but if the guy that runs and can't read a defense is more productive then i don't care. The guy that runs around and can't read a defense is the better player in my mind.

Thank you for sharing. It's difficult for me to disagree more.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Lol… at least you admit your bias.

For the record I never cared about air yards. I did care about the ability to attack all parts of the field, which I feel Purdy and Lance both have the ability to do so.

I don't hate Jimmy like you hate Lance. I felt that this team needed an upgrade over Jimmy to win it all. Because Kyle isn't perfect, the offensive line will never be perfect, and I liked the idea of having a cheap QB room which we're benefiting from currently (Javon Hargrave). Purdy showed last season what this offense it truly capable of and Lance has just as much raw ability but hasn't proved anything yet.

It's odd to me that some want Trey to fail so much since he's only 22 and his success could lead to a long term franchise QB or some trade compensation.

That's a key point. Even if Brock wins the starting gig Trey showing ability makes his trade value higher. We should be rooting for success for both.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I don't care about dicing up coverages and making reads lol. The production is there. That's all that matters. If Trey were a monster runner and could put up 30+ a game without throwing that's fine too. I want QB that produces and wins. Not Kirk Cousins and his beautiful field reading. When you look at Treys overall production compared to Hirts and Allen in the beginning they were both better. Watching the film makes that even more clear

You should. That's what all the cool QBs that have long careers are doing.

That's what history tells us, but the game is changing and the top guys aren't just statues reading the D all game. It's definitely a trait you want, but if the guy that runs and can't read a defense is more productive then i don't care. The guy that runs around and can't read a defense is the better player in my mind.

Thank you for sharing. It's difficult for me to disagree more.

If he's more productive how is he not better? You want the guy producing and scoring more or the guy reading the defense?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

I don't care about dicing up coverages and making reads lol. The production is there. That's all that matters. If Trey were a monster runner and could put up 30+ a game without throwing that's fine too. I want QB that produces and wins. Not Kirk Cousins and his beautiful field reading. When you look at Treys overall production compared to Hirts and Allen in the beginning they were both better. Watching the film makes that even more clear

You should. That's what all the cool QBs that have long careers are doing.

That's what history tells us, but the game is changing and the top guys aren't just statues reading the D all game. It's definitely a trait you want, but if the guy that runs and can't read a defense is more productive then i don't care. The guy that runs around and can't read a defense is the better player in my mind.

Thank you for sharing. It's difficult for me to disagree more.

If he's more productive how is he not better? You want the guy producing and scoring more or the guy reading the defense?

I don't think you and I should discuss this any further. We simply have different criteria for what makes a good QB. Have a good one.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Well the poster I'm responding to openly admits they would trade Trey immediately which is essentially saying they'd rather be proven right about Trey than do what's best for the team.

Cause you know… screw the dead cap and the fact that Trey has no trade value currently. Get him off the team because people were mean to Jimmy.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Here are the first 4 four games rushing.

Hurts- 9.5 YPA, 1 TD, 6 fumbles
Lance- 7.4 YPA, 0 TD's, 1 fumble.

So even adding in the rushing stats with the passing stats, Jalen was not out performing Trey in the first 4 games. Trey was better in some areas and Jalen was better in others. But overall they were nearly the same production wise.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Lmfao you guys are so far off here. Not caring about run or pass has nothing to do with grading how easy a play is

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Oh no, so with people saying he didn't do s**t during his Super Bowl in 2019 his 3900 yards passing with a 69% cmp% is credible then?? What was all that b******t about air yards??

Trey Lance was a project that wasn't worth the trade up for let alone three 1st round picks. I wasn't a fan from the start. The sooner they can move on from the injury prone project the sooner we can concentrate on one QB. Until then it's always gonna be a wait and see filled with a ton of exhausting excuses when things don't go right. You people already wanted Shanahan fired for running Trey up the middle. Josh Allen does the same s**t and isn't that who we drafted him to be?? No, then WTF did they draft him for???

So you want him to fail so you can be right. Got it.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Here are the first 4 four games rushing.

Hurts- 9.5 YPA, 1 TD, 6 fumbles
Lance- 7.4 YPA, 0 TD's, 1 fumble.

So even adding in the rushing stats with the passing stats, Jalen was not out performing Trey in the first 4 games. Trey was better in some areas and Jalen was better in others. But overall they were nearly the same production wise.

How many times do we have to tell you stats do not tell how a player looked. There's film posted in here where Hurts looked more polished than Lance did against the Texans even though his stats were worse

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Where did I say I want him to fail. Again with the twisted words. I just wanna see him traded. I love the positivity thinking that he'll start and nothing will go wrong for him, but is that the relaity of things??

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

I'm mean if that was Jimmy you'd be defending him to the death with a massive erection 😂

Jimmy has far more stats that get overlooked or isn't credible because of who you guys portray him to be.

No need to portray anything. Jimmy got 8 years to prove his worth. Trey completed 3 games and you would "love to trade him".

Oh no, so with people saying he didn't do s**t during his Super Bowl in 2019 his 3900 yards passing with a 69% cmp% is credible then?? What was all that b******t about air yards??

Trey Lance was a project that wasn't worth the trade up for let alone three 1st round picks. I wasn't a fan from the start. The sooner they can move on from the injury prone project the sooner we can concentrate on one QB. Until then it's always gonna be a wait and see filled with a ton of exhausting excuses when things don't go right. You people already wanted Shanahan fired for running Trey up the middle. Josh Allen does the same s**t and isn't that who we drafted him to be?? No, then WTF did they draft him for???

Lol… at least you admit your bias.

For the record I never cared about air yards. I did care about the ability to attack all parts of the field, which I feel Purdy and Lance both have the ability to do so.

I don't hate Jimmy like you hate Lance. I felt that this team needed an upgrade over Jimmy to win it all. Because Kyle isn't perfect, the offensive line will never be perfect, and I liked the idea of having a cheap QB room which we're benefiting from currently (Javon Hargrave). Purdy showed last season what this offense it truly capable of and Lance has just as much raw ability but hasn't proved anything yet.

It's odd to me that some want Trey to fail so much since he's only 22 and his success could lead to a long term franchise QB or some trade compensation.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Lmfao you guys are so far off here. Not caring about run or pass has nothing to do with grading how easy a play is

Dude you're full of s**t. I'm sorry but you are. You take away easy lance production BUT say you don't care how production happens for OTHER QBs.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
How many times do we have to tell you stats do not tell how a player looked. There's film posted in here where Hurts looked more polished than Lance did against the Texans even though his stats were worse