Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Where did I say I want him to fail. Again with the twisted words. I just wanna see him traded. I love the positivity thinking that he'll start and nothing will go wrong for him, but is that the relaity of things??

So you aren't a fan, don't think he was worth the trade up and want him traded but that doesn't mean you want him to fail?

No it doesn't. I want to see him traded but even admitted he won't be and that's the reality of things, again how is that wanting him to fail??

Reach much??

lance gonna make ya dance

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Here are the first 4 four games rushing.

Hurts- 9.5 YPA, 1 TD, 6 fumbles
Lance- 7.4 YPA, 0 TD's, 1 fumble.

So even adding in the rushing stats with the passing stats, Jalen was not out performing Trey in the first 4 games. Trey was better in some areas and Jalen was better in others. But overall they were nearly the same production wise.

How many times do we have to tell you stats do not tell how a player looked. There's film posted in here where Hurts looked more polished than Lance did against the Texans even though his stats were worse

You said production, did you not? Idgaf what your untrained eyes tell you. How many times do I have to tell fans on the WZ that.

Everyone has an opinion. Some choose to back it up with quantifiable evidence. Those who don't are the ones taken less seriously.

Yes these convos hop all over the place with you guys lol. The original point was they showed more in their first 4 starts than Trey and it still stands

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You took that out of context but what ever I don't care lol

Lol you keep telling yourself that. You calling out Lance's "easy plays" then have no issue how protection was gotten for other QBs. I watched Hurts vs AZ his "highlights" were a f**k ton of dump off screens, 50/50 slot fades and one read throws to wide open receivers.

if Lance did that you'd be calling it out. I know for a FACTS you didn't watch early Josh Allen games with the nonsense you've been saying.

speaking of TL.. Rodgers to NYJ ya'll in the wrong thread

more great QBs to the AFC helps TL and us

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Yes these convos hop all over the place with you guys lol. The original point was they showed more in their first 4 starts than Trey and it still stands

And the numbers and film don't back that up….how does that not resonate with you? Oh I know why, because it s**ts on your bias narrative. That's a fact.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Here are the first 4 four games rushing.

Hurts- 9.5 YPA, 1 TD, 6 fumbles
Lance- 7.4 YPA, 0 TD's, 1 fumble.

So even adding in the rushing stats with the passing stats, Jalen was not out performing Trey in the first 4 games. Trey was better in some areas and Jalen was better in others. But overall they were nearly the same production wise.

How many times do we have to tell you stats do not tell how a player looked. There's film posted in here where Hurts looked more polished than Lance did against the Texans even though his stats were worse

You said production, did you not? Idgaf what your untrained eyes tell you. How many times do I have to tell fans on the WZ that.

Everyone has an opinion. Some choose to back it up with quantifiable evidence. Those who don't are the ones taken less seriously.

Yes these convos hop all over the place with you guys lol. The original point was they showed more in their first 4 starts than Trey and it still stands

No, it does not. I gave you quantifiable evidence to the contrary. You choose to ignore it and instead give me your untrained "eye test" opinion. OPINION IS NOT FACT.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Where did I say I want him to fail. Again with the twisted words. I just wanna see him traded. I love the positivity thinking that he'll start and nothing will go wrong for him, but is that the relaity of things??

So you aren't a fan, don't think he was worth the trade up and want him traded but that doesn't mean you want him to fail?

Thats like saying your girlfriend is ugly, useless and you want her to break up wit you but where did I say I wont marry her one day.

You edited your post to make horrible comparison. lol

No it's like when you're a teenager and you wanna trade in that new car your dad just got you but he won't do it cause he'll be upside down in payments.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
speaking of TL.. Rodgers to NYJ ya'll in the wrong thread

more great QBs to the AFC helps TL and us

Rogers is one step away from being a Tibetan monk lol. He will be in NY for no more than 2 seasons. Jets will be punked yet again 😂

Originally posted by Kolohe:
No it doesn't. I want to see him traded but even admitted he won't be and that's the reality of things, again how is that wanting him to fail??

Reach much??

If you are rooting for him to succeed why wouldn't you want that to be here?

Originally posted by YACBros85:
No, it does not. I gave you quantifiable evidence to the contrary. You choose to ignore it and instead give me your untrained "eye test" opinion. OPINION IS NOT FACT.

And his QB opinion is f**king garbage.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
You edited your post to make horrible comparison. lol

No it's like when you're a teenager and you wanna trade in that new car your dad just got you but he won't do it cause he'll be upside down in payments.

It's the reality. Just admit you want him to fail so you can be right. That's what you are rooting for.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

I'm mean if that was Jimmy you'd be defending him to the death with a massive erection 😂

Jimmy has far more stats that get overlooked or isn't credible because of who you guys portray him to be.

No need to portray anything. Jimmy got 8 years to prove his worth. Trey completed 3 games and you would "love to trade him".

Oh no, so with people saying he didn't do s**t during his Super Bowl in 2019 his 3900 yards passing with a 69% cmp% is credible then?? What was all that b******t about air yards??

Trey Lance was a project that wasn't worth the trade up for let alone three 1st round picks. I wasn't a fan from the start. The sooner they can move on from the injury prone project the sooner we can concentrate on one QB. Until then it's always gonna be a wait and see filled with a ton of exhausting excuses when things don't go right. You people already wanted Shanahan fired for running Trey up the middle. Josh Allen does the same s**t and isn't that who we drafted him to be?? No, then WTF did they draft him for???

Lol… at least you admit your bias.

For the record I never cared about air yards. I did care about the ability to attack all parts of the field, which I feel Purdy and Lance both have the ability to do so.

I don't hate Jimmy like you hate Lance. I felt that this team needed an upgrade over Jimmy to win it all. Because Kyle isn't perfect, the offensive line will never be perfect, and I liked the idea of having a cheap QB room which we're benefiting from currently (Javon Hargrave). Purdy showed last season what this offense it truly capable of and Lance has just as much raw ability but hasn't proved anything yet.

It's odd to me that some want Trey to fail so much since he's only 22 and his success could lead to a long term franchise QB or some trade compensation.

OK so I want Trey Lance to fail and I hate Trey Lance. I could've sworn there was a difference between hate and criticism and I thought it made clear in the Jimmy thread. So I don't like the trade, didn't think he was worth the picks and don't wanna deal with excuses if he struggles or fails AND THAT'S HATE???

Got damn you people are contradicting yourselves.

Lol… saying you're not a fan is not criticism. The term "hate" gets thrown around constantly, I've been called a hater for saying Jimmy's not a top 10 QB. If saying you're not a fan and want him off the team without seeing him play half a season isn't hate then it shouldn't be applied anywhere. If so, I take it back. You just don't like him.

And again, wanting to trade Trey with his dead cap is counterproductive. Which again, you don't factor in because, to you, it's more important to get him off the team.

There's nothing wrong with not believing in Trey. I don't blame anyone for that. But it's highly hypocritical to say you want to get rid of Trey immediately then cry about unfairness for other QBs.

All I want is for the team to win a SB. Whether that's with Purdy or Lance. It does not matter to me.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
No it doesn't. I want to see him traded but even admitted he won't be and that's the reality of things, again how is that wanting him to fail??

Reach much??

If you are rooting for him to succeed why wouldn't you want that to be here?

I'm not rooting for success, I'm rooting for a trade. See the difference. Besides I wanna see the Brock Purdy story through, I think he's earned that right.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Lol… saying you're not a fan is not criticism. The term "hate" gets thrown around constantly, I've been called a hater for saying Jimmy's not a top 10 QB. If saying you're not a fan and want him off the team without seeing him play half a season isn't hate then it shouldn't be applied anywhere. If so, I take it back. You just don't like him.

And again, wanting to trade Trey with his dead cap is counterproductive. Which again, you don't factor in because, to you, it's more important to get him off the team.

There's nothing wrong with not believing in Trey. I don't blame anyone for that. But it's highly hypocritical to say you want to get rid of Trey immediately then cry about unfairness for other QBs.

All I want is for the team to win a SB. Whether that's with Purdy or Lance. It does not matter to me.

He doesn't understand that wanting to get rid of him now when his value is at his lowest is clearly driven by dislike of the player. If he actually wanted Trey to succeed he'd want him given an opportunity to do so here. So the only conclusion is you want him to fail so move him now so that happens on another team.