Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Naw I'm just tryna get my point across, it's you people who post get all sensitive when someone is not a fan of the QB. Tell me were you a fan of Kwame Harris, how about Anthony Clement, why didn't you give Kevan Barlow more of a chance and so on....

kolohe calling us sensitive. Maybe go look at your posts in the Jimmy thread.

Were you a fan of Armstead/Ward? Didn't give them a chance I bet…two of the longest tenured 49ers over the past decade.

And this coning from someone who gets all bent outta shape if anything bad is said about Trey Lance.

I just tried to say I'm not a fan and want him traded. Then I get bombarded with "oh you hate him" and "oh you want him to fail". My god.

This has been mostly about me as a poster than my opinion, it seems.

Go look at all my post in the Chicago and Seattle game day threads. That's where peoples emotions get outta hand, lets see what I had to say about Lance. Lets see how much I hate him. Go ahead I'll wait.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lance is a god awful runner. Lol anyone who thinks he can run like Murray, Lamar, hurts, etc are out of their mind. They're just looking at him on paper.

Lance runs super stiff; or it at least looks like it. I say it all the time and people make jokes, which says a lot lol, but Lance isn't very elusive or agile. He's just fast in a straight line and when you're playing scrubs in college - you can do that.

purdys hilarious high step is much for effective than Lance when running. Lol

I agree with most of this. Especially the last line. Purdy appears to be a better runner, better off schedule. Everything but QB sneak.

This is what boggles my mind as to the hesitancy of preferring Purdy to Trey. Brock is doing exactly what everyone wants from Trey.

To me, those preferring Trey to Brock are the ones who would rather be right.

Trey's not a good runner compared to Fields, Lamar, Vick, Allen and so on, but I think you both are underselling Trey's pocket mobility. He's definitely shown elusiveness within the pocket and you make him sound like he's Joe Flacco there.

Ive been on record saying I'm fine with Purdy being the guy going forward, he showed me a lot last season. I think it's important to find out who should be the future but I can't argue with thinking Purdy is the guy already. Ultimately I felt we needed higher quality QB play, one reason being so the refs would actually lean in our favor come SB time. I think theoretically you can win a SB with Jimmy G caliber QB but I feel there's so much political BS now the NFL wants to control who wins.

So yeah, I don't see why we can't have our cake and eat it too… with Purdy being injured we get to showcase Lance again. It's a win-win. If Trey sucks and loses games then we move back to Purdy sooner. I don't see a downside in that plan.

Originally posted by krizay:
I agree with most of this. Especially the last line. Purdy appears to be a better runner, better off schedule. Everything but QB sneak.

This is what boggles my mind as to the hesitancy of preferring Purdy to Trey. Brock is doing exactly what everyone wants from Trey.

To me, those preferring Trey to Brock are the ones who would rather be right.

No people want to see Lance actually play football before calling him trash. They spent the capital it's gone. Saying he can't improve or develop after 100 sporadic passing attempts is trash and you know it.

He does have that upside to be that guy…and no I don't care if you don't like that phrase. It's part of the reason he was drafted in the first place. He wasn't gonna be a bona fide pro-bowler WK1 into his starting career…anyone being objective knew that. Ya'll wanted to be right so bad that you said it's done after 100 passing attempts.

it's also has zero to do with Brock, he's not going anywhere. He's dealing with a serious injury and who knows what the hell happens after that. His arm could be shot….So go see what Lance is. No different than last yr.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lance is a god awful runner. Lol anyone who thinks he can run like Murray, Lamar, hurts, etc are out of their mind. They're just looking at him on paper.

Lance runs super stiff; or it at least looks like it. I say it all the time and people make jokes, which says a lot lol, but Lance isn't very elusive or agile. He's just fast in a straight line and when you're playing scrubs in college - you can do that.

purdys hilarious high step is much for effective than Lance when running. Lol

I agree with most of this. Especially the last line. Purdy appears to be a better runner, better off schedule. Everything but QB sneak.

This is what boggles my mind as to the hesitancy of preferring Purdy to Trey. Brock is doing exactly what everyone wants from Trey.

To me, those preferring Trey to Brock are the ones who would rather be right.

What a lot of people do is just look at his YPC but that doesn't tell you Jack. The key is efficiency! It's what makes Lamar and hurts hard to beat - they convert a lot of third downs.

how many of lances runs were on third down and he got the first down? How many of his runs were for less than 3 yards? Less than 5 yards? The offense is very boom or bust with him in - I understand he's barely played and that may change with experience, but right now - the offense is clunky and inefficient with him in.

Lance hasn't shown he does much very well and what makes it worse, all his games have been against literally the worst teams in the league. You'd expect him to ball, regardless of experience, because of where he was selected and how much "potential" he has.I'm tired of hearing about the weather - it's football. If you're a stud, you overcome, not succumb to trash teams.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Trey's not a good runner compared to Fields, Lamar, Vick, Allen and so on, but I think you both are underselling Trey's pocket mobility. He's definitely shown elusiveness within the pocket and you make him sound like he's Joe Flacco there.

Ive been on record saying I'm fine with Purdy being the guy going forward, he showed me a lot last season. I think it's important to find out who should be the future but I can't argue with thinking Purdy is the guy already. Ultimately I felt we needed higher quality QB play, one reason being so the refs would actually lean in our favor come SB time. I think theoretically you can win a SB with Jimmy G caliber QB but I feel there's so much political BS now the NFL wants to control who wins.

So yeah, I don't see why we can't have our cake and eat it too… with Purdy being injured we get to showcase Lance again. It's a win-win. If Trey sucks and loses games then we move back to Purdy sooner. I don't see a downside in that plan.

If he plays well but the plan is to still go back to Purdy you have a guy on the roster with trade value come 2024.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Who prefers Trey to Brock?

If you truly wanted an answer to this question, you wouldn't have to ask it. You would have already found it.

Originally posted by krizay:
If you truly wanted an answer to this question, you wouldn't have to ask it. You would have already found it.

The only person that you could possibly point to is NY. One whole guy on the whole forum.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Naw I'm just tryna get my point across, it's you people who post get all sensitive when someone is not a fan of the QB. Tell me were you a fan of Kwame Harris, how about Anthony Clement, why didn't you give Kevan Barlow more of a chance and so on....

kolohe calling us sensitive. Maybe go look at your posts in the Jimmy thread.

Were you a fan of Armstead/Ward? Didn't give them a chance I bet…two of the longest tenured 49ers over the past decade.

And this coning from someone who gets all bent outta shape if anything bad is said about Trey Lance.

I just tried to say I'm not a fan and want him traded. Then I get bombarded with "oh you hate him" and "oh you want him to fail". My god.

This has been mostly about me as a poster than my opinion, it seems.

Go look at all my post in the Chicago and Seattle game day threads. That's where peoples emotions get outta hand, lets see what I had to say about Lance. Lets see how much I hate him. Go ahead I'll wait.

You were/are one of the biggest complainers when anyone said anything negative about Jimmy. Idk how many times you've posted "fake fans"

You've turned into the people you hated, how you still don't see this hypocrisy is baffling lol.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
And this coning from someone who gets all bent outta shape if anything bad is said about Trey Lance.

I just tried to say I'm not a fan and want him traded. Then I get bombarded with "oh you hate him" and "oh you want him to fail". My god.

This has been mostly about me as a poster than my opinion, it seems.

Go look at all my post in the Chicago and Seattle game day threads. That's where peoples emotions get outta hand, lets see what I had to say about Lance. Lets see how much I hate him. Go ahead I'll wait.

No I just call our bias b******t posts. Which have been plentiful in here.

your opinions are based off your emotions towards Jimmy and people that didn't love him as much as you did.

how can you have any objective opinion on Lance good/bad right now? He's had some moments of flashing and had some rookie mistakes. He's got 100 random passing attempts to his name. Forming any opinion based off that is crap…and I will call that out all day.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
You were/are one of the biggest complainers when anyone said anything negative about Jimmy. Idk how many times you've posted "fake fans"

You've turned into the people you hated, how you still don't see this hypocrisy is baffling lol.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lance is a god awful runner. Lol anyone who thinks he can run like Murray, Lamar, hurts, etc are out of their mind. They're just looking at him on paper.

Lance runs super stiff; or it at least looks like it. I say it all the time and people make jokes, which says a lot lol, but Lance isn't very elusive or agile. He's just fast in a straight line and when you're playing scrubs in college - you can do that.

purdys hilarious high step is much for effective than Lance when running. Lol

I agree with most of this. Especially the last line. Purdy appears to be a better runner, better off schedule. Everything but QB sneak.

This is what boggles my mind as to the hesitancy of preferring Purdy to Trey. Brock is doing exactly what everyone wants from Trey.

To me, those preferring Trey to Brock are the ones who would rather be right.

Trey's not a good runner compared to Fields, Lamar, Vick, Allen and so on, but I think you both are underselling Trey's pocket mobility. He's definitely shown elusiveness within the pocket and you make him sound like he's Joe Flacco there.

Ive been on record saying I'm fine with Purdy being the guy going forward, he showed me a lot last season. I think it's important to find out who should be the future but I can't argue with thinking Purdy is the guy already. Ultimately I felt we needed higher quality QB play, one reason being so the refs would actually lean in our favor come SB time. I think theoretically you can win a SB with Jimmy G caliber QB but I feel there's so much political BS now the NFL wants to control who wins.

So yeah, I don't see why we can't have our cake and eat it too… with Purdy being injured we get to showcase Lance again. It's a win-win. If Trey sucks and loses games then we move back to Purdy sooner. I don't see a downside in that plan.

Joe Flacco's elusiveness in the backfield during the SB hurt us big time.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
instead of questioning it…let him play so we can all get an answer. It's not like they couldn't move the ball his last game as a starter. They had 150 yards on his 17 plays vs a playoff team (without Kittle/Mitchell/CMC).

saying Purdy is a "more known commodity" is a bit extreme. He's got 70 more passing attempts. His advantage is he's played more football coming into the league (like you said) that doesn't mean that will equal better long-term success, just that he's seen more football.

regardless Brock isn't part of the convo right now. Dude isn't gonna start week 1 and might even end up on PUP to start the season. I'm more than fine with Brock or Lance…but saying 4 sporadic NFL games is enough to label Lance anything is beyond dumb.

The most overhyped 150 yds of all time

Didn't Deebo do a Deebo thing and run for a third of that on one play. We scored 0 TDs. Yet I've read 1000 posts about that 13 or so mins of TD-less football like it was the end of SB 23. Let's get a lil fair and balanced. Dude completed 2 passes. I'm all about TL dominating but I can't point to anything from 2022 as the reason why. It's more based on his talent, and the opportunity of seizing this job this offseason year 3 with KS & TL.

It's hard to trust the opinion of a poster who once claimed Solomon Thomas was the safest pick of the 2017 draft.

Why is Brock being brought up? If Brock didn't suffer a serious injury and have such a long recovery a head of him, he would be the anointed starter heading into OTA's/TC. But that isn't the reality. The reality is that Trey will get all of the 1st team reps in OTA's, TC and most likely pre season. And unless he under performs or suffers another injury, he will not lose the starting job.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dj43:
What do you think Steve Wilks said about him?

Somebody on a professional level came to the conclusion he was the best option of roughly 20 others, and Kyle agreed.

Same thing. Good locker room guy and backup that isn't gonna be a cancer…So far he's got the cheapest contract (gtd cash) across the board. So "best"is a stretch, cheapest with a lot of experience sure.

Under the tutelage of Shanahan and Griese, he could become serviceable though.

...and it might just be the case that Darnold agreed to a lesser contract in order to put some decent play on film for the future.

In any case, the difference of $1.5M in GTD is barely enough to create a spread among options.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
instead of questioning it…let him play so we can all get an answer. It's not like they couldn't move the ball his last game as a starter. They had 150 yards on his 17 plays vs a playoff team (without Kittle/Mitchell/CMC).

saying Purdy is a "more known commodity" is a bit extreme. He's got 70 more passing attempts. His advantage is he's played more football coming into the league (like you said) that doesn't mean that will equal better long-term success, just that he's seen more football.

regardless Brock isn't part of the convo right now. Dude isn't gonna start week 1 and might even end up on PUP to start the season. I'm more than fine with Brock or Lance…but saying 4 sporadic NFL games is enough to label Lance anything is beyond dumb.

The most overhyped 150 yds of all time

Didn't Deebo do a Deebo thing and run for a third of that on one play. We scored 0 TDs. Yet I've read 1000 posts about that 13 or so mins of TD-less football like it was the end of SB 23. Let's get a lil fair and balanced. Dude completed 2 passes. I'm all about TL dominating but I can't point to anything from 2022 as the reason why. It's more based on his talent, and the opportunity of seizing this job this offseason year 3 with KS & TL.

It's hard to trust the opinion of a poster who once claimed Solomon Thomas was the safest pick of the 2017 draft.

Lol that's your go to?

What's worse than that is you s**tting on Kyle and still thinking he's not good. Take a seat buddy, plenty of people have been wrong about draft picks. Try again