Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread | Page 3899

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:29 PM

NYniner85
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Notice he does a shake and bake on 54 a LB and it does nothing.

It's fine.. it's positive yardage.. but it's not anything I would put on a highlight reel, or a highlight reel play. He's gonna have to wow and win with his arm with what I am seeing of his running. And I think he can, particularly with these weapons.

Lol what? There was multiple defenders around him, no one is "shaking and baking" there. He saw the hole and ran. His issue on some of those runs previously is he's trying to follow his blockers like a running back instead of just running/scrambling.

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:31 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Notice he does a shake and bake on 54 a LB and it does nothing.

It's fine.. it's positive yardage.. but it's not anything I would put on a highlight reel, or a highlight reel play. He's gonna have to wow and win with his arm with what I am seeing of his running. And I think he can, particularly with these weapons.

Lol what? There was multiple defenders around him, no one is "shaking and baking" there. He saw the hole and ran. His issue on some of those runs previously is he's trying to follow his blockers like a running back instead of just running/scrambling.

Excellent point. I noticed that as well.

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:33 PM

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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Koldo:
8 wins as a 7th round rookie QB.

107. 3 QB rating.

Only quarterback since 1950 to win his first five NFL starts and throw two or more touchdown passes in each game.

First rookie in NFL history with four touchdowns in a playoff game.

Most playoff passes without an interception for a rookie quarterback.

Most yards in a playoff game by a 49ers QB. since Joe.

Those are facts. No IFs, no hoping, only facts.

What does Trey have to show for?

It's still only 8 starts as great as he played. We really don't know enough about either guy yet to know who the long term future guy is. Brock has the leg up if he can return to form obviously but that's an IF at this point.

Kap showed us all why a longer sample will be required for any young 9er QB.

Brock's play could fall off but this isn't the same situation. We aren't going to be trying to switch Brock's playing style with a #1 WR that runs a 5.2 40

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:34 PM

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Originally posted by krizay:
Endof game kneel downs. And he was horrible on QB sneaks

What was his success rate? SF overall had one of the highest success rate on QB sneaks at over 90% last yr.

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:37 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
What was his success rate? SF overall had one of the highest success rate on QB sneaks at over 90% last yr.

No idea. But he looked horrible though

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:39 PM

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Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Notice he does a shake and bake on 54 a LB and it does nothing.

It's fine.. it's positive yardage.. but it's not anything I would put on a highlight reel, or a highlight reel play. He's gonna have to wow and win with his arm with what I am seeing of his running. And I think he can, particularly with these weapons.

Lol what? There was multiple defenders around him, no one is "shaking and baking" there. He saw the hole and ran. His issue on some of those runs previously is he's trying to follow his blockers like a running back instead of just running/scrambling.

Excellent point. I noticed that as well.

Yeah that was part of the hesitancy in his runs. He was trying to follow blockers.

Someone really said if he would or slid in the Seattle game he wouldn't have gotten hurt lol. In reality there was absolutely no way he could have slid. He was behind Trent trying to follow him and Trent blew his block. Lance would have gotten his head ripped off trying to slide right there in the trenches….that's the type of posts that drive me nuts. No nuance. None…just blatant bias takes.

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:42 PM

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NYniner85
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Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
What was his success rate? SF overall had one of the highest success rate on QB sneaks at over 90% last yr.

No idea. But he looked horrible though

Proof? All I'm seeing is stuff like this

I'm sure the 49ers are happy that Trey Lance has taken the successful QB sneak streak from Jimmy Garoppolo and extended it
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) September 11, 2022

Good to know 49ers' QB sneak efficiency has carried over to Trey Lance
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 2, 2022

The QB sneak is an undervalued skill for Trey Lance.
— Kyle Madson (@KyleAMadson) January 2, 2022

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:46 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Proof? All I'm seeing is stuff like this

I'm sure the 49ers are happy that Trey Lance has taken the successful QB sneak streak from Jimmy Garoppolo and extended it
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) September 11, 2022

Good to know 49ers' QB sneak efficiency has carried over to Trey Lance
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 2, 2022

The QB sneak is an undervalued skill for Trey Lance.
— Kyle Madson (@KyleAMadson) January 2, 2022

Im talking Purdy

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:50 PM

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Originally posted by YACBros85:
And the statement that Brock is the future isn't full of ifs and lots of hoping? GTFOH! 🤣

Nope according to lots of people Brock is the franchise QB after a hot streak without winning a championship. We don't know what Brock would've looked like if he began the year while the offense was struggling and went 3-4 before CMC. Maybe he would've been good but it was certainly fortunate for him he got to step in when the team was rolling already during the midpoint of the season. What if Brock has hit his ceiling? It's why it's foolish to just give up on Trey right away.

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:51 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Notice he does a shake and bake on 54 a LB and it does nothing.

It's fine.. it's positive yardage.. but it's not anything I would put on a highlight reel, or a highlight reel play. He's gonna have to wow and win with his arm with what I am seeing of his running. And I think he can, particularly with these weapons.

Lol what? There was multiple defenders around him, no one is "shaking and baking" there. He saw the hole and ran. His issue on some of those runs previously is he's trying to follow his blockers like a running back instead of just running/scrambling.

Watch his ankles between the 20 yard line and 10 yard line.. he's attempting to juke the LB..

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:53 PM

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Originally posted by krizay:
Im talking Purdy

Okay that makes sense. No he wasn't amazing there

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:53 PM

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Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
And the statement that Brock is the future isn't full of ifs and lots of hoping? GTFOH! 🤣

Nope according to lots of people Brock is the franchise QB after a hot streak without winning a championship. We don't know what Brock would've looked like if he began the year while the offense was struggling and went 3-4 before CMC. Maybe he would've been good but it was certainly fortunate for him he got to step in when the team was rolling already during the midpoint of the season. What if Brock has hit his ceiling? It's why it's foolish to just give up on Trey right away.

Thats one hell of a ceiling. If he maintains that ceiling even for just the next 3 years we would be rolling.

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:54 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah that was part of the hesitancy in his runs. He was trying to follow blockers.

Someone really said if he would or slid in the Seattle game he wouldn't have gotten hurt lol. In reality there was absolutely no way he could have slid. He was behind Trent trying to follow him and Trent blew his block. Lance would have gotten his head ripped off trying to slide right there in the trenches….that's the type of posts that drive me nuts. No nuance. None…just blatant bias takes.

Yeah I don't get people saying he needed to slide in that play like there was no way he could've. The defender was right there in his grill.

Mar 15, 2023 at 1:57 PM

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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Watch his ankles between the 20 yard line and 10 yard line.. he's attempting to juke the LB..

Which is a pointless thing to point out…the LBer doesn't have to move regardless of him junking anyone. There was multiple defenders there.

Mar 15, 2023 at 2:01 PM

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Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah that was part of the hesitancy in his runs. He was trying to follow blockers.

Someone really said if he would or slid in the Seattle game he wouldn't have gotten hurt lol. In reality there was absolutely no way he could have slid. He was behind Trent trying to follow him and Trent blew his block. Lance would have gotten his head ripped off trying to slide right there in the trenches….that's the type of posts that drive me nuts. No nuance. None…just blatant bias takes.

Yeah I don't get people saying he needed to slide in that play like there was no way he could've. The defender was right there in his grill.

You don't want him scrambling too much he only runs a 4.92 and most NFL D lineman are faster than Lance. Which kind of scrambling were you talking about?