Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
There would be no criticism or complaining from me if Trey Lance had a 7 or 8 game run like Purdy. All it would mean is I was wrong about him. Who's keeping score!!!

no one hates you dude. I just can't stand some of the hypocritical posts in here (I'm guilty there too) and embellishments. The negativity towards this kid is remarkable, given how little he's gotten to show.

Objectively no one knows what Lance can or can't be…The issue is people have a hard time being objective.

All good NY I'm just f**king around bro. You're a tough muther f**ker to argue with I'll give you that!!!

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
How can Brock have 25 yards when his total rushing is 13? I suppose he must have lost a great deal of yards on designed runs. And Trey is not a bad scrambler. Trey's problem with running is on designed runs to the outside. He's good up the middle and good scrambling WHEN HE DECIDES TO GO. Such as:

Notice he does a shake and bake on 54 a LB and it does nothing.

It's fine.. it's positive yardage.. but it's not anything I would put on a highlight reel, or a highlight reel play. He's gonna have to wow and win with his arm with what I am seeing of his running. And I think he can, particularly with these weapons.

Nothing? It makes him hesitate. You're so hellbent on the "fullback" narrative you're lying to yourself.

Watch how he strafes slightly left and then right instead of rushing in. Like I said, you're utterly lying to yourself.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
How can Brock have 25 yards when his total rushing is 13? I suppose he must have lost a great deal of yards on designed runs. And Trey is not a bad scrambler. Trey's problem with running is on designed runs to the outside. He's good up the middle and good scrambling WHEN HE DECIDES TO GO. Such as:

Notice he does a shake and bake on 54 a LB and it does nothing.

It's fine.. it's positive yardage.. but it's not anything I would put on a highlight reel, or a highlight reel play. He's gonna have to wow and win with his arm with what I am seeing of his running. And I think he can, particularly with these weapons.

Nothing? It makes him hesitate. You're so hellbent on the "fullback" narrative you're lying to yourself.

Watch how he strafes slightly left and then right instead of rushing in. Like I said, you're utterly lying to yourself.

What is the result of the play? The guy TL attempts to juke makes the tackle unassisted.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Trey's biggest issue IMO is his rhythm in the offense, and getting the ball out on time. Those are two areas Purdy looks like a 10 year vet but they come with experience.

I agree with this.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Trey's biggest issue IMO is his rhythm in the offense, and getting the ball out on time. Those are two areas Purdy looks like a 10 year vet but they come with experience.

One thing to add here BP didn't have that in May or rook mini camp.. but he did vs MIA.. so where did it come from?

this idea TL has to play live fire reps in regular season to grow I hear from NY, I see a lot of QBs growing from grinding each day in prax, film, that's how BP did it.. develop that in the offseason, be ready to show it week 1

How do you know he didn't have it in camp?

Answer: You don't

there is this article titled 'Brock Purdy not doing much to impress in 49ers rookie camp'

https://ninernoise.com/2022/05/15/brock-purdy-not-impress-49ers-rookie-camp/

Straight from Kyle's mouth:

When he first started out he got such few reps because of how many reps we were giving to [QB] Trey [Lance] and how much we were given to Nate, but every time he got his one or two reps in practice, just how decisive he was and got the ball to the right spot and did it aggressively. Never seemed unsure of anything and so he kept earning more reps and the more reps we gave him the more he continued to look the same and didn't take any steps back and then he carried it over to some of the preseason games. So by the end of that, it was pretty easy to see how Brock was coming and we knew we wanted to keep him on the roster and not risk him going to practice squad, so it was a decision we had to make."

Its pretty easy to find conflicting reports about players in camp.

Several 95.7 guys said Trey looked much better than Jimmy in his rookie camp. I don't remember you taking that to the bank.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
There would be no criticism or complaining from me if Trey Lance had a 7 or 8 game run like Purdy. All it would mean is I was wrong about him. Who's keeping score!!!

no one hates you dude. I just can't stand some of the hypocritical posts in here (I'm guilty there too) and embellishments. The negativity towards this kid is remarkable, given how little he's gotten to show.

Objectively no one knows what Lance can or can't be…The issue is people have a hard time being objective.

All good NY I'm just f**king around bro. You're a tough muther f**ker to argue with I'll give you that!!!

We don't hate you because you're not a fan of Trey.

We hate you because you're ugly.

Don't you feel better now?

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
There would be no criticism or complaining from me if Trey Lance had a 7 or 8 game run like Purdy. All it would mean is I was wrong about him. Who's keeping score!!!

no one hates you dude. I just can't stand some of the hypocritical posts in here (I'm guilty there too) and embellishments. The negativity towards this kid is remarkable, given how little he's gotten to show.

Objectively no one knows what Lance can or can't be…The issue is people have a hard time being objective.

All good NY I'm just f**king around bro. You're a tough muther f**ker to argue with I'll give you that!!!

We don't hate you because you're not a fan of Trey.

We hate you because you're ugly.

Don't you feel better now?

I better be ugly to you.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Trey's biggest issue IMO is his rhythm in the offense, and getting the ball out on time. Those are two areas Purdy looks like a 10 year vet but they come with experience.

One thing to add here BP didn't have that in May or rook mini camp.. but he did vs MIA.. so where did it come from?

this idea TL has to play live fire reps in regular season to grow I hear from NY, I see a lot of QBs growing from grinding each day in prax, film, that's how BP did it.. develop that in the offseason, be ready to show it week 1

How do you know he didn't have it in camp?

Answer: You don't

Such nonsense. One kid had 300 passing attempts in live play coming into the league. The other has 1,500.

Downplaying the importance of live reps and how important they are for development….all that tells me is he's never played a competitive sport lol.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
What is the result of the play? The guy TL attempts to juke makes the tackle unassisted.

A tackle? He gave himself up. Jesus quit trying so hard

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
What is the result of the play? The guy TL attempts to juke makes the tackle unassisted.

A tackle? He gave himself up. Jesus quit trying so hard

54 does get credited on that play with a tackle. If TL is giving himself up it's cuz he knows he was not able to evade the LB in open field.

Look I'm not trying to blow smoke and say this is a highlight reel run.. someone shared this as a demonstration of his running prowess.. yet to see it folks, I hope he works on his spiral.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Straight from Kyle's mouth:

When he first started out he got such few reps because of how many reps we were giving to [QB] Trey [Lance] and how much we were given to Nate, but every time he got his one or two reps in practice, just how decisive he was and got the ball to the right spot and did it aggressively. Never seemed unsure of anything and so he kept earning more reps and the more reps we gave him the more he continued to look the same and didn't take any steps back and then he carried it over to some of the preseason games. So by the end of that, it was pretty easy to see how Brock was coming and we knew we wanted to keep him on the roster and not risk him going to practice squad, so it was a decision we had to make."

Its pretty easy to find conflicting reports about players in camp.

Several 95.7 guys said Trey looked much better than Jimmy in his rookie camp. I don't remember you taking that to the bank.

Lol. I'd hope not. When radio personalities and dudes like Grant Cohn are giving you this kind of analysis, you'd be much better off fading it on principle.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Straight from Kyle's mouth:

When he first started out he got such few reps because of how many reps we were giving to [QB] Trey [Lance] and how much we were given to Nate, but every time he got his one or two reps in practice, just how decisive he was and got the ball to the right spot and did it aggressively. Never seemed unsure of anything and so he kept earning more reps and the more reps we gave him the more he continued to look the same and didn't take any steps back and then he carried it over to some of the preseason games. So by the end of that, it was pretty easy to see how Brock was coming and we knew we wanted to keep him on the roster and not risk him going to practice squad, so it was a decision we had to make."

Its pretty easy to find conflicting reports about players in camp.

Several 95.7 guys said Trey looked much better than Jimmy in his rookie camp. I don't remember you taking that to the bank.

Lol. I'd hope not. When radio personalities and dudes like Grant Cohn are giving you this kind of analysis, you'd be much better off fading it on principle.

Like I was saying, it's not logical to believe one report as gospel.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Like I was saying, it's not logical to believe one report as gospel.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Like I was saying, it's not logical to believe one report as gospel.

Is it logical to assume he was the guy vs Tampa when he got off the plane from Iowa? Or did he build up to that by working each day, getting better etc? I'm gonna go with he got better each day, each week, each prax rep. Otherwise it doesn't make sense why KS would slot him QB3. Plus we watched him preseason. He was a work in prog at that point, I saw him legit shaking his own head in frustration at himself for messing back to back plays up vs HOU. That's more logical than thinking he was doing the airguns in rook minicap.

TL has many months of work in front to hopefully get better, I understand he is working now.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Is it logical to assume he was the guy vs Tampa when he got off the plane from Iowa? Or did he build up to that by working each day, getting better etc? I'm gonna go with he got better each day, each week, each prax rep. Otherwise it doesn't make sense why KS would slot him QB3. Plus we watched him preseason. He was a work in prog at that point, I saw him legit shaking his own head in frustration at himself for messing back to back plays up vs HOU. That's more logical than thinking he was doing the airguns in rook minicap.

Lol, also agree with this.

It's going to depend on the individual guy. You could see a guy with playing experience and refined fundamentals at the position improving over time without seeing live game reps. He already has the base to build on. It could be a simple matter of adjusting to being a pro.