Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by krizay:

See now that there is the gray area we are in. People think Kyle can develop Trey because they think he can turn anyone to gold.

The reason I never wanted Trey because his traits don't fit what makes this offense go.

Mac Jones' strengths fit perfectly. That is why most people assumed it would be him. Purdy's strengths fits perfectly. That is why he excelled.

While Trey has great physical ability, his accuracy, feet, processing all of that lacks to run Kyle's offense. IN MY OPINION.

As the 9ers have shown with Purdy you can get a superior prospect to Mac with the last pick in the draft.

First rounds are for getting the elite skill sets that aren't available later.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
As the 9ers have shown with Purdy you can get a superior prospect to Mac with the last pick in the draft.

First rounds are for getting the elite skill sets that aren't available later.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
As the 9ers have shown with Purdy you can get a superior prospect to Mac with the last pick in the draft.

First rounds are for getting the elite skill sets that aren't available later.

Meanwhile in hypothetical re-drafts, Purdy is going in the first round. Purdy isn't an example of the type of QBs you find late in drafts. He's an example of teams failing to properly evaluate QB prospects, and also the general unknowns present in the draft process.

Strong arms, elite size, and plus mobility will always be bonuses at the QB position. The best of the best prospects have those traits but they are secondary to the ability to do what is necessary at the position.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Anyone have a good, recent 2021 NFL redraft?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Anyone have a good, recent 2021 NFL redraft?

You'll find some with just a quick google search, but they will mostly be from the beginning of last season.

PFF did one in that time period. Had Mac Jones going to us at 3, and Trey Lance going to Chicago at 11.

Originally posted by krizay:
I mean sure it's about winning the SB. I rather the question be can they win the big one as opposed to can he win the backup job

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bro thinks he knows what Kyle wants at a QB kyle SHOWED everyone what he wants and gave up years of 1st rd picks to get it.

people ever think that the past QBs that Kyle "liked" weren't even up to him? He was never in a position to make the decision on what he wanted…really until now.

Like you said you can find Jones talent later in drafts. They found it with Brock. You move up in the draft to find elite level traits. They clearly need to be developed and people refuse to accept the reality of that.

now I'm not comparing Lance to Mahomes/Allen/Watson at all…but if lance doesn't "fit" what kyle wants. How the f**k do ya'll think those other guys do? They're not robots who just run the play regardless. It's so much backyard football and expending plays…guess they would have all sucked here too.

also let's be real it's not "what fits the system" it's what Kirzay values at QB. Let's at least acknowledge it 😉

"Kyle wants somebody that can understand his offense, that can process information quickly, that can see the field through a lens that makes sense to him to be able to coach it, and for you to kind of see it how he sees it," Beck said on "Papa and Lund." "It doesn't have to be perfect, but he wants you to be able to communicate with him and then be able to process so that in-game communications, during-practice communication, all those things can flow smoothly.

"He's also really big on feet. He wants to be able to tie feet to the scheme, and really vice versa. So, he's very particular about the feet of his quarterback, the eyes of his quarterback, the positioning, and he looks for traits and abilities. Physical abilities would be getting the ball out quickly, being able to drive it to a lot of different places on the field quickly and effortlessly. He loves to be aggressive in play-pass, especially certain areas of the field, so he wants somebody, as they come off the play fake, if those safeties start to cut the underneath routes, or if they get flat-footed, he wants somebody that can drive a ball downfield, and then within space.

From Beck. How much of this sounds like Trey?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Only they didn't draft who you thought fit that…last I check Beck isn't Kyle. So again let's all stop acting like we all got Kyle figured out.

Apparently guys like Mahomes/hurts/Allen/Watson would have also failed here according to Beck

Originally posted by Koldo:
Too heated a conversation over a guy who's going to end up being QB2.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You didn't answer his question though…

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Only they didn't draft who you thought fit that…last I check Beck isn't Kyle. So again let's all stop acting like we all got Kyle figured out.

Apparently guys like Mahomes/hurts/Allen/Watson would have also failed here according to Beck

2 of those guys he passed on

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You didn't answer his question though…

What was the question?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
So as long as Kyle's here we will never have an elite level QB. Well that really blows…still don't believe that and then making a move for Lance kinda disproves all of it.

also they could have had Josh Allen as well (massive 49er fan growing up)

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/adam-schefter-tells-wild-story-how-49ers-could-have-drafted-josh-allen

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Can you win a SB with Brock…