Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Looks like Trey is out there spinnin' it 👀

Here's the first public video of Trey Lance throwing since his injury.

(IG: prestonsmithphotogtaphy)

Has his release tightened up? pic.twitter.com/NL8umuqRsq

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

Ball flip gone. 👀👀👀 The question is can he refrain from allowing it to return.

Let's stop being silly. It's not "came" or "gone" thing and every single throw has a different trajectory and outcome.

His throws have been just fine. Needed reps are the only thing.

Originally posted by genus49:
I know, not like he's had 4 games where we can really know what his NFL career will be like.

Those 30 passes this yr….I've seen enough, I mean he's clearly a bust. No 21 yr old could ever get better. I mean he had 300 passing attempts in college. Impossible for improvement

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Looks like Trey is out there spinnin' it 👀

Here's the first public video of Trey Lance throwing since his injury.

(IG: prestonsmithphotogtaphy)

Has his release tightened up? pic.twitter.com/NL8umuqRsq

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

Ball flip gone. 👀👀👀 The question is can he refrain from allowing it to return.

Hold up…a super young QB with limited reps (that doesn't have bad habits ingrained into him yet) can actually develop and improve?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Hold up…a super young QB with limited reps (that doesn't have bad habits ingrained into him yet) can actually develop and improve?

Interesting how the narrative flips.. I hear that JF is a terrible passer, that's just what he is.. he will not improve. Or I hear Mac is

I think all these guys can improve. Wilson probably could improve, but his attitude stinks so much I don't think he takes coaching or criticism well, which means he will not improve. Lawrence has already improved a great deal.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Looks like Trey is out there spinnin' it ????

Here's the first public video of Trey Lance throwing since his injury.

(IG: prestonsmithphotogtaphy)

Has his release tightened up? pic.twitter.com/NL8umuqRsq

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

Ball flip gone. ???????????? The question is can he refrain from allowing it to return.

Let's stop being silly. It's not "came" or "gone" thing and every single throw has a different trajectory and outcome.

His throws have been just fine. Needed reps are the only thing.

Pretty much agree with this.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Interesting how the narrative flips.. I hear that JF is a terrible passer, that's just what he is.. he will not improve. Or I hear Mac is

I think all these guys can improve. Wilson probably could improve, but his attitude stinks so much I don't think he takes coaching or criticism well, which means he will not improve. Lawrence has already improved a great deal.

Lol WTF are you taking about…taking s**t out of context/embellishing as usual. Stop trying so hard and support a player that plays on a team you root for and leave it at that.

Why does every comment from you involve some sort of deflection or some made up bull s**t to find a gotcha moment? When can we have a real conversation? Because you've shown me you're incapable of doing that so far.

100 pass attempts not enough to form an opinion. 1 clip with 1 pass and we throwing out shock faces and told ya sos

Well, that was fun and short lived, talking about scheme and how Trey fits, or doesn't fit. Back to the usual I guess.

Originally posted by krizay:


100 pass attempts not enough to form an opinion. 1 clip with 1 pass and we throwing out shock faces and told ya sos

HA and if it looked like a terrible pass… You'd be the first person in here puffing up your chest.

Who's saying told you so anyway? Acting like a kid that hasn't played a to of football can't improve was a stupid thing to think to begin with.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
HA and if it looked like a terrible pass… You'd be the first person in here puffing up your chest.

Who's saying told you so anyway? Acting like a kid that hasn't played a to of football can't improve was a stupid thing to think to begin with.

Well, if that was true I would have told you to look at how the WR had to stretch and possibly jump(can't see his feet). When a certain someone threw his passes like that we called them hospital balls and JG was highly scrutinized.

But that wouldn't have been productive so I didn't bring it up.

Originally posted by krizay:


100 pass attempts not enough to form an opinion. 1 clip with 1 pass and we throwing out shock faces and told ya sos

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Hold up…a super young QB with limited reps (that doesn't have bad habits ingrained into him yet) can actually develop and improve?

Interesting how the narrative flips.. I hear that JF is a terrible passer, that's just what he is.. he will not improve. Or I hear Mac is

I think all these guys can improve. Wilson probably could improve, but his attitude stinks so much I don't think he takes coaching or criticism well, which means he will not improve. Lawrence has already improved a great deal.

I think if you took the time to look into you'd see that a lot of QBS who didn't have that top status from HS into early starting job as a starter in college took big steps in time.

You will find very few QBs who had major success prior to 20 years old. Most of them are usually those high end recruits who had a lot of work to develop them because their parents knew early on they could make it to the top levels of the game - like Lawerence and Fields, etc.

Lance is a rare case due to his early starting season and then covid.

But just look at the prospects in this year's draft. You have your top end prospects in Young and Stroud. Young will be 22 this season, Stroud will turn 22 mid season.

Then you have guys who have come out as big time prospects this season or just recently like Richardson(going to be in Trey territory as he turns 21), Levis will turn 24 this season and Hooker who is 25 years old.

Richardson just broke out and showed his ability but it was his combine that really got people talking. Plenty out there still think he's a major project.
Levis wasn't even starting until he was 22 and had to transfer out of Penn St.
Hooker looked far from NFL material when he played for VTech before he turned 23.

Other guys took big steps forward as they matured.

Simply put there is a ton of evidence showing that Trey is far from a finished product. That's why the 49ers have to make sure long term Brock will be the better QB. If this is a Drew Brees vs Philip Rivers situation...we better keep Brees.

Originally posted by thl408:
Well, that was fun and short lived, talking about scheme and how Trey fits, or doesn't fit. Back to the usual I guess.

Originally posted by thl408:
Well, that was fun and short lived, talking about scheme and how Trey fits, or doesn't fit. Back to the usual I guess.

Lol same.. we had one real good page of actual convo there

Originally posted by thl408:
Well, that was fun and short lived taking about scheme and how Trey fits, or doesn't fit. Back to the usual I guess.

I mean personally, I don't think it's about "scheme fit" if you're a good QB you're a good QB. Do we think Kyle wouldn't take guys like Mahomes/Allen/hurts/Watson/Jackson etc and ball out? A good offensive mind molds his offense to his personnel…If we think kyle wouldn't get the most out of those guys then that's an issue.

I think kyle's first real opportunity to get the QB he wanted (which was Lance) shows he's multiple from a scheme standpoint. For most of his time in the NFL he was never really the final decision maker on what QB he wanted. Jimmy just fell into their lap and they tossed a buttload of cash at him after 5 games. Turned out to not be the best move.

I do think kyle has a problem with patience and QB development. It's why he wanted Kirk, he knew the scheme and had the years of reps in the NFL. It wasn't because that's his "ideal QB" it was just familiar. He even said Kirk wasn't his ideal QB.