Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I'm in the minority here, I know—But I'm excited to see how Trey Lance reacts to having to show the Niners staff something in the spring and summer. There was a lot of excitement over his start to camp in 2021. We'll see if he can rekindle some of that. https://t.co/2I5zXuBcml

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) April 6, 2023

C'mon Trey !

Until he throws his first INT in training camp and NT loses their s**t.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

At left: Trey Lance August 2022 (my video from camp)

At right: Trey Lance April 2023 (IG: prestonsmithphotography)

Huge difference in at least this one throw. Lance is holding/releasing the ball much higher and the motion is clearly quicker. Both fixes have been necessary pic.twitter.com/PeFhukUPcw

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

I don't see anything different lol. Clearly I don't know what I'm looking at. I thought the majority of his fine tuning had to do with his lower body? Also, I can't tell if both of these are the same type of throws (distance, arc of throw). I'm assuming comparing the throwing motion requires that the throws are of the same type. For example, a QB will load differently for a 30 yard throw as opposed to a 10 yard throw.

The first one he is releasing the ball at shoulder level in the second one is right at eye level. Sems pretty easy to notice

Maybe easy for someone that knows what they are looking at, like you.

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Quicker release & higher release point.

I see it. Thanks. I don't know if it's a good thing. I remember us talking about how sidearm-ish throws allowed the QB to sling it from non-optimal lower body positions, like if the feet aren't quite set. Something like that. We were talking about this last offseason. In the end, accuracy is what matters most so whatever works best for Lance, do that.

Originally posted by thl408:

I see it. Thanks. I don't know if it's a good thing. I remember us talking about how sidearm-ish throws allowed the QB to sling it from non-optimal lower body positions, like if the feet aren't quite set. Something like that. We were talking about this last offseason. In the end, accuracy is what matters most so whatever works best for Lance, do that.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

At left: Trey Lance August 2022 (my video from camp)

At right: Trey Lance April 2023 (IG: prestonsmithphotography)

Huge difference in at least this one throw. Lance is holding/releasing the ball much higher and the motion is clearly quicker. Both fixes have been necessary pic.twitter.com/PeFhukUPcw

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

I don't see anything different lol. Clearly I don't know what I'm looking at. I thought the majority of his fine tuning had to do with his lower body? Also, I can't tell if both of these are the same type of throws (distance, arc of throw). I'm assuming comparing the throwing motion requires that the throws are of the same type. For example, a QB will load differently for a 30 yard throw as opposed to a 10 yard throw.

The first one he is releasing the ball at shoulder level in the second one is right at eye level. Sems pretty easy to notice

Maybe easy for someone that knows what they are looking at, like you.

.

Quicker release & higher release point.

I see it. Thanks. I don't know if it's a good thing. I remember us talking about how sidearm-ish throws allowed the QB to sling it from non-optimal lower body positions, like if the feet aren't quite set. Something like that. We were talking about this last offseason. In the end, accuracy is what matters most so whatever works best for Lance, do that.

Originally posted by thl408:
I see it. Thanks. I don't know if it's a good thing. I remember us talking about how sidearm-ish throws allowed the QB to sling it from non-optimal lower body positions, like if the feet aren't quite set. Something like that. We were talking about this last offseason. In the end, accuracy is what matters most so whatever works best for Lance, do that.

Agree but I think the lower release point could create problems with batted balls at the line.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

At left: Trey Lance August 2022 (my video from camp)

At right: Trey Lance April 2023 (IG: prestonsmithphotography)

Huge difference in at least this one throw. Lance is holding/releasing the ball much higher and the motion is clearly quicker. Both fixes have been necessary pic.twitter.com/PeFhukUPcw

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

I don't see anything different lol. Clearly I don't know what I'm looking at. I thought the majority of his fine tuning had to do with his lower body? Also, I can't tell if both of these are the same type of throws (distance, arc of throw). I'm assuming comparing the throwing motion requires that the throws are of the same type. For example, a QB will load differently for a 30 yard throw as opposed to a 10 yard throw.

The first one he is releasing the ball at shoulder level in the second one is right at eye level. Sems pretty easy to notice

Maybe easy for someone that knows what they are looking at, like you.

.

Quicker release & higher release point.

I see it. Thanks. I don't know if it's a good thing. I remember us talking about how sidearm-ish throws allowed the QB to sling it from non-optimal lower body positions, like if the feet aren't quite set. Something like that. We were talking about this last offseason. In the end, accuracy is what matters most so whatever works best for Lance, do that.

Originally posted by thl408:
I see it. Thanks. I don't know if it's a good thing. I remember us talking about how sidearm-ish throws allowed the QB to sling it from non-optimal lower body positions, like if the feet aren't quite set. Something like that. We were talking about this last offseason. In the end, accuracy is what matters most so whatever works best for Lance, do that.

Agree but I think the lower release point could create problems with batted balls at the line.

We've seen that happen a couple times with Lance. Need some full contact football to see how the QB really throws.

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
I think. We should Trey trade to AFC teams because he will earn moneys for 11 millions a year. We need save the salary cap space! Brock is true for number QB1.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

At left: Trey Lance August 2022 (my video from camp)

At right: Trey Lance April 2023 (IG: prestonsmithphotography)

Huge difference in at least this one throw. Lance is holding/releasing the ball much higher and the motion is clearly quicker. Both fixes have been necessary pic.twitter.com/PeFhukUPcw

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

I don't see anything different lol. Clearly I don't know what I'm looking at. I thought the majority of his fine tuning had to do with his lower body? Also, I can't tell if both of these are the same type of throws (distance, arc of throw). I'm assuming comparing the throwing motion requires that the throws are of the same type. For example, a QB will load differently for a 30 yard throw as opposed to a 10 yard throw.

The first one he is releasing the ball at shoulder level in the second one is right at eye level. Sems pretty easy to notice

Maybe easy for someone that knows what they are looking at, like you.

.

Quicker release & higher release point.

I see it. Thanks. I don't know if it's a good thing. I remember us talking about how sidearm-ish throws allowed the QB to sling it from non-optimal lower body positions, like if the feet aren't quite set. Something like that. We were talking about this last offseason. In the end, accuracy is what matters most so whatever works best for Lance, do that.

Originally posted by thl408:
I see it. Thanks. I don't know if it's a good thing. I remember us talking about how sidearm-ish throws allowed the QB to sling it from non-optimal lower body positions, like if the feet aren't quite set. Something like that. We were talking about this last offseason. In the end, accuracy is what matters most so whatever works best for Lance, do that.

Agree but I think the lower release point could create problems with batted balls at the line.

We've seen that happen a couple times with Lance. Need some full contact football to see how the QB really throws.

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
I think. We should Trey trade to AFC teams because he will earn moneys for 11 millions a year. We need save the salary cap space! Brock is true for number QB1.

Hahaha-you always want to trade everybody to get salary cap space. Who going to want Trey when he has not proven anything?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

At left: Trey Lance August 2022 (my video from camp)

At right: Trey Lance April 2023 (IG: prestonsmithphotography)

Huge difference in at least this one throw. Lance is holding/releasing the ball much higher and the motion is clearly quicker. Both fixes have been necessary pic.twitter.com/PeFhukUPcw

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

I don't see anything different lol. Clearly I don't know what I'm looking at. I thought the majority of his fine tuning had to do with his lower body? Also, I can't tell if both of these are the same type of throws (distance, arc of throw). I'm assuming comparing the throwing motion requires that the throws are of the same type. For example, a QB will load differently for a 30 yard throw as opposed to a 10 yard throw.

The first one he is releasing the ball at shoulder level in the second one is right at eye level. Sems pretty easy to notice

Maybe easy for someone that knows what they are looking at, like you.

.

Quicker release & higher release point.

I see it. Thanks. I don't know if it's a good thing. I remember us talking about how sidearm-ish throws allowed the QB to sling it from non-optimal lower body positions, like if the feet aren't quite set. Something like that. We were talking about this last offseason. In the end, accuracy is what matters most so whatever works best for Lance, do that.

Originally posted by thl408:
I see it. Thanks. I don't know if it's a good thing. I remember us talking about how sidearm-ish throws allowed the QB to sling it from non-optimal lower body positions, like if the feet aren't quite set. Something like that. We were talking about this last offseason. In the end, accuracy is what matters most so whatever works best for Lance, do that.

Agree but I think the lower release point could create problems with batted balls at the line.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Jcool:

The "it's just one throw!" crowd (in reaction to the Trey Lance video) is ridiculous.

One throw is more than zero throws. And Lance's motion didn't look like that the last time we saw him. It's notable and something we were already closely tracking before

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
I think. We should Trey trade to AFC teams because he will earn moneys for 11 millions a year. We need save the salary cap space! Brock is true for number QB1.

Hahaha-you always want to trade everybody to get salary cap space. Who going to want Trey when he has not proven anything?

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Jcool:

The "it's just one throw!" crowd (in reaction to the Trey Lance video) is ridiculous.

One throw is more than zero throws. And Lance's motion didn't look like that the last time we saw him. It's notable and something we were already closely tracking before

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

TL throws a spiral and the wz goes nuts LOL... in underwear, no rush, no defense... entering his third year as a pro and he has to be taught how to throw a football... when the bullets start flying he is going to revert to his old clunky elongated,inaccurate, slow passing motion

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Jcool:

The "it's just one throw!" crowd (in reaction to the Trey Lance video) is ridiculous.

One throw is more than zero throws. And Lance's motion didn't look like that the last time we saw him. It's notable and something we were already closely tracking before

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

TL throws a spiral and the wz goes nuts LOL... in underwear, no rush, no defense... entering his third year as a pro and he has to be taught how to throw a football... when the bullets start flying he is going to revert to his old clunky elongated,inaccurate, slow passing motion

Originally posted by NYniner85:

at this point I don't trust our coaching staff to develop a QB. I don't trust Kyle/FO to actually find a legit top 5 QB either…it's one thing to get the most out of a QB, it's another to help develop him into that guy. Not sure Kyle can do that…and I'm one of his biggest supporters.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Jcool:

The "it's just one throw!" crowd (in reaction to the Trey Lance video) is ridiculous.

One throw is more than zero throws. And Lance's motion didn't look like that the last time we saw him. It's notable and something we were already closely tracking before

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 6, 2023

TL throws a spiral and the wz goes nuts LOL... in underwear, no rush, no defense... entering his third year as a pro and he has to be taught how to throw a football... when the bullets start flying he is going to revert to his old clunky elongated,inaccurate, slow passing motion

Possibly. That certainly happens when guys tune up their mechanics. Sometimes it doesn't, though (Josh Allen for example). We will see....