Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Not sure why there always has to be this line in the sand when it comes to 49ers QBs. One faction faction feeling the need to downplay one QB to prop up the other while the other faction b***hes about it yet does the exact same thing. Lol it's ridiculous

I don't give a f**k who's the starting QB as long as they're good. And I'm not talking about middle of the league starter. I want a guy that we can all agree is an elite level guy and the starter for years.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Not sure why there always has to be this line in the sand when it comes to 49ers QBs. One faction faction feeling the need to downplay one QB to prop up the other while the other faction b***hes about it yet does the exact same thing. Lol it's ridiculous

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Not sure why there always has to be this line in the sand when it comes to 49ers QBs. One faction faction feeling the need to downplay one QB to prop up the other while the other faction b***hes about it yet does the exact same thing. Lol it's ridiculous

Some are rightfully down on a QB that has barely ever played and has not looked good.

The others are knocking a dude that was making history lol

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Not sure why there always has to be this line in the sand when it comes to 49ers QBs. One faction faction feeling the need to downplay one QB to prop up the other while the other faction b***hes about it yet does the exact same thing. Lol it's ridiculous

I don't give a f**k who's the starting QB as long as they're good. And I'm not talking about middle of the league starter. I want a guy that we can all agree is an elite level guy and the starter for years.

I get that…..but as an impartial fan reading all and who likes both QBs, it's happening on both sides

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
You are one of the worst offenders on either side 🤣

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
You are one of the worst offenders on either side 🤣

I've blocked him but I'm sure I have an idea of what he said lol

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I'm in the minority here, I know—But I'm excited to see how Trey Lance reacts to having to show the Niners staff something in the spring and summer. There was a lot of excitement over his start to camp in 2021. We'll see if he can rekindle some of that. https://t.co/2I5zXuBcml

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) April 6, 2023

Everyone who is a fan of the team should be excited to see Trey show something this offseason. Ideally he becomes the guy over Brock. He has all of the tools and traits that Purdy doesn't have, so I am hoping he becomes the long term guy and gets us to #6.

I agree that we should all be excited to see Trey show improvement, or at least more optimistic towards him, but I disagree on the whole tools thing. Trey may have a stronger arm or run faster but that's it. Those are also some of the least important traits towards being a top qb.

I do hope Trey can carry improved mechanics forward and have it make a difference in his play. It'll be fun to watch him and darnold duke it out.

Lance possesses tools that aren't attainable for guys like Brock. It's simply the truth of it.

What Brock does possess are things that Lance can learn to do. Those are learned traits at the QB position. Whether he can learn them is up to him.

that's what swoosh is saying and that's the difference in all of it…doesn't mean someone dislikes a certain QB or whatever.

I don't think it is that cut and dry.

Brock moves as well in the pocket and in short bursts but maybe not as fast after 10 yards and his arm is not as strong.

I am not sure vision and progressing through reads is all learnable.

We shall see.

Trey's main problem was accuracy, not processing. He is at least passable at it. I'd say he is a BETTER processor than Jimmy G, because Jmmy G doesn't process, he predetermins where he's throwing, but is clever enough to look off defenders.

That said Brock appears to be elite at it.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Not sure why there always has to be this line in the sand when it comes to 49ers QBs. One faction faction feeling the need to downplay one QB to prop up the other while the other faction b***hes about it yet does the exact same thing. Lol it's ridiculous

Some are rightfully down on a QB that has barely ever played and has not looked good.

The others are knocking a dude that was making history lol

You are one of the worst offenders on either side 🤣

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by thl408:
I don't see anything different lol. Clearly I don't know what I'm looking at. I thought the majority of his fine tuning had to do with his lower body? Also, I can't tell if both of these are the same type of throws (distance, arc of throw). I'm assuming comparing the throwing motion requires that the throws are of the same type. For example, a QB will load differently for a 30 yard throw as opposed to a 10 yard throw.

Same. I don't see anything marginally different, looks basically the same as before.

Here's a great article about the QB coach he's working with currently

https://theathletic.com/1572738/2020/01/30/an-inside-look-at-the-chicago-area-qb-coach-with-his-fingerprints-all-over-super-bowl-54/?source=user_shared_article

Jeff Christensen has been coaching QBs for a really long time…his whole premise is footwork and timing (shocker). Some of the QBs I saw he's worked with are Mahomes, Jimmy G, tannehill, Kirk cousins…but I'm sure there's a bunch more.
IMO we can dissect his throwing motion to death. Overall it was never an issue. If you can tighten it up, that's a positive. It's gonna be all about his lower half though…no false steps, no heel clicking, knowing his drops and the depth of the routes. Being confident in his reads etc. that will make him more accurate.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
ya hopefully his footwork improves as well

i think what is going to help trey the most is having cmc and a healthy kittle. people just gloss over the fact how much of an impact they have on our offense (when evaluating trey)

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Man, I'm not gonna lie. Going to be crushed if the trade rumors end up being true. This guy never had a chance here.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Man, I'm not gonna lie. Going to be crushed if the trade rumors end up being true. This guy never had a chance here.

Plans change.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Man, I'm not gonna lie. Going to be crushed if the trade rumors end up being true. This guy never had a chance here.

Plans change.