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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm looking forward to Trey backing up Kyle Juszczyk this year!


That Jimmy G the week before the NFCCG.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm looking forward to Trey backing up Kyle Juszczyk this year!


Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
These guys saw Lynch's comments and started calling it immediately. This was before Darnold was signed too.


Its clear that both lynch and Shanahan have not given trey a vote of confidence, with both words and actions. It's disappointing because I thought treybwould get his shot to prove himself. I have this awful feeling darnold will overtake him.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
These guys saw Lynch's comments and started calling it immediately. This was before Darnold was signed too.


Who cares? Why do some of you guys think that podcasters or radio guys somehow have a better idea what the team will do than the fans who hear the same comments from the team?

Use your heads people. We have 1 guy right now who is fully medically cleared to play if we had a game today. By the time camp rolls around we will have two guys and maybe a rookie QB or two.

The team certainly has a lot more information on Brock Purdy's recovery than we do but they're not fortune tellers. They don't know how he'll look once medically cleared.

If they trade Lance during the draft it leaves Sam Darnold as the only vet QB on the roster. It gives us an $11 million dead cap hit in the process.

Know what happens when teams are willing to take a big dead cap hit? They typically get overpaid in compensation or simply need to get an awful contract off the books and are willing to pay the dead cap hit to get it done.

Trey is on a rookie deal, even as the 3rd overall pick his contract as far as QBs go is super cheap. So only reason to take a dead cap hit for a team with cap issues is when another team gives big compensation to swing the trade.

You see that happening? 49ers held onto Jimmy tooth and nail just so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. They're not trading him for peanuts just to get rid of him. Stop this nonsense.

Pretty sure these same dudes though Deebo would be traded.
  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
For one none of you know what the 9ers would get for him. Two, the salary cap can be manipulated and if traded before June 1st the 49ers would only lose $1.55 mil in cap space. The 49ers then could restructure CMC and create about $8 mil in cap space. And the trade is before June 1st there would be no dead cap in the future either.

Like I said the odds of Lance setting the world on fire after missing so much time and playing so little is slim to none or not great at all. Not to mention the expectations will be high because they of what was invested in him.

Cut our losses and move on.

You kind of just proven my point. You are giving away a guy you traded 3 1st RD picks for and actually lose cap space. How does that make any sense?

The only way the Niners trade him is if a team offers them enough to the point where John and Kyle are willing to take the cap hit and also the risk of him being great. Atleast that's what a GM and coach with half a brain would do. Maybe I am giving John and Kyle too much credit but I hope not.

Actually now you're twisting it. You said the cap hit would be more than his numbers if he stayed on the team and they paid him. I showed you it's a very minimum hit and a plan to regain the cap space to cover the loss. Now if it were any other QB we were talking about, you would definitely agree with me and say "why haven't we done this already". lol

The only probably trading him before June 1st is the timing is wrong.

Also, the 9ers aren't gonna get what they paid to draft him, it never works that way.
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I think CMC will really help, Trey's game.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 9, 2023 at 8:43 AM ]
Trey and Brock both need to get healthy and right now Trey is ahead in his rehab since his surgery happened earlier. I can't imagine Kyle not taking advantage of the situation and letting Trey play as much as possible. If he plays well then he has to make a decision between Trey and Brock once Purdy is healthy. He could keep them both or trade one if he got the right offer.

Trading Trey now wouldn't make sense because his value is low after not playing much the last 2 seasons. If he plays well in the pre season or in some early season games then his trade value would be higher if they chose to go with Brock. One way or another, it will get worked out.

I'm in favor of keeping both along with Darnold given the way the QBs keep getting hurt.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm looking forward to Trey backing up Kyle Juszczyk this year!

I'm looking forward to him juking safeties like he did last year and then Jimmy stans saying he has no quickness because they're still bitter he was drafted with the aim of replacing Jimmy.

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Trey and Brock both need to get healthy and right now Trey is ahead in his rehab since his surgery happened earlier. I can't imagine Kyle not taking advantage of the situation and letting Trey play as much as possible. If he plays well then he has to make a decision between Trey and Brock once Purdy is healthy. He could keep them both or trade one if he got the right offer.

Trading Trey now wouldn't make sense because his value is low after not playing much the last 2 seasons. If he plays well in the pre season or in some early season games then his trade value would be higher if they chose to go with Brock. One way or another, it will get worked out.

I'm in favor of keeping both along with Darnold given the way the QBs keep getting hurt.

I see no reason to trade anyone. We got a f**k ton of picks the next to years. They're both on rookie contracts and we know Kyle goes through QBs like Jimmy G goes through pornstars.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm looking forward to Trey backing up Kyle Juszczyk this year!

I'm looking forward to him juking safeties like he did last year and then Jimmy stans saying he has no quickness because they're still bitter he was drafted with the aim of replacing Jimmy.

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That tub of popcorn must have cost about $15. $25 if it's at a sports event.
Team has $3M in cap room, by trading him they lose $1.55M-$2M in cap room, not happening, not now anyway, and he looks improved, I know it's just one video, but he looks better, almost Mahomes-ish.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Team has $3M in cap room, by trading him they lose $1.55M-$2M in cap room, not happening, not now anyway, and he looks improved, I know it's just one video, but he looks better, almost Mahomes-ish.

Would be wonderful if he comes in and looks Mahommes-ish.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Its clear that both lynch and Shanahan have not given trey a vote of confidence, with both words and actions. It's disappointing because I thought treybwould get his shot to prove himself. I have this awful feeling darnold will overtake him.

I'm not too concerned about Darnold. But the real hurtful moment for Trey fans WILL occur when they pull a fully healthy Trey for an even a partially healed Purdy. This WILL happen within the first four weeks of the season. All Trey fans will be crushed and they won't understand why Trey gets benched.

It's clear that the Niners FO is all in on the Purdy bandwagon. It would take much more than an improved throwing motion and potential to unseat Purdy at this stage in the game despite how much draft capital we spent drafting Trey.

Trey's only chance now to take the reins is if Purdy never makes a full recovery. Anything short of that, Trey sits on the bench as a second or third string QB.

Nevertheless, the Niners are in a very odd situation!
[ Edited by bigpete50 on Apr 9, 2023 at 10:30 AM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Team has $3M in cap room, by trading him they lose $1.55M-$2M in cap room, not happening, not now anyway, and he looks improved, I know it's just one video, but he looks better, almost Mahomes-ish.

Would be wonderful if he comes in and looks Mahommes-ish.

Agreed
Originally posted by bigpete50:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Its clear that both lynch and Shanahan have not given trey a vote of confidence, with both words and actions. It's disappointing because I thought treybwould get his shot to prove himself. I have this awful feeling darnold will overtake him.

I'm not too concerned about Darnold. But the real hurtful moment for Trey fans WILL occur when they pull a fully healthy Trey for an even a partially healed Purdy. This WILL happen within the first four weeks of the season. All Trey fans will be crushed and they won't understand why Trey gets benched.

It's clear that the Niners FO is all in on the Purdy bandwagon. It would take much more than an improved throwing motion and potential to unseat Purdy at this stage in the game despite how much draft capital we spent drafting Trey.

Trey's only chance now to take the reins is if Purdy never makes a full recovery. Anything short of that, Trey sits on the bench as a second or third string QB.

Nevertheless, the Niners are in a very odd situation!

We'll find out in early June if Purdy will be be able to start the season or not, his 3 month mark will give us a good idea on if darnold/Lance will have a shot at QB1 for a few games.

It all hinges on Purdy's recovery.
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