ATT = Number of passing attemptsCMP = Number of completionsYDS = Passing yardsTD = Touchdown passesINT = InterceptionsIf the result of any calculation is greater than 2.375, it is set to 2.375. If the result is a negative number, it is set to zero.
Then, the above calculations are used to complete the passer rating:
Passer Rating=(�+�+�+�6)×100
QB rating actually has a formula you can find unlike the stupid ESPN QBR which is apparently a big secret.
But QB rating has been proven to be a hollow stat that like any other stat can be misleading. Just look at the Pats/Falcons SB where Matt Ryan had a QB rating nearly 50 points higher than Tom Brady.
I think we all know which QB was better that day.
So while a high QB Rating is nice it shouldn't be used as definitive stat on who played better like any other stat.
Lol what is all this mumbo-jumbo?
I forgot to paste the wiki link to it.
Basically A, B, C, D situation then it's (A+B+C+D)/6 x 100
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They didn't think he would be the project he is.
They have a QB they can win a SB with, and Trey is so far behind there's just no point now. They aren't going to extend him based on hope. Might as well get what you can while you can
Originally posted by CharlieSheen: The only people with a good idea of where he's at are within the organization.
Basing my opinion off their actions/comments from the players
Sorry. I call BS on that.
Those type of comments are expected. They have let things slip that tell me they aren't sure about him.
Again, what are these comments you're hearing from the players? The only one I saw you posted was the one that Kittle said Trey just doesn't have to mess things up (or something like that). This is your whole basis for saying the players don't like him? It's quite a stretch.
Now you're saying the team wants to trade him, but in reality, that report was from a rumor page with 5000 subs. That page is far from being credible, yet you're convinced its true.
I don't find either of these opinions very objective at all. That's my issue with your recent posts.
I've been on record saying that if I was a betting man that I would assume Purdy is our future. I want the best QB possible, whether that's Purdy or Lance is irrelevant to me. I also have no problem with people not believing in Lance or believing that Lance needs to essentially put up or shut up. He absolutely does at this point.
But you continue to post extremely subjective comments and you act as if they're objective facts. For example:
"They didn't think he would be the project he is."
"And judging by their actions, he's more green than they thought he would be"
"Trey is so far behind there's just no point now."
"They're going for a SB, which means they are going with Brock, which also means Trey will not develop, which means he won't get resigned here, which means they should probably trade him and get something instead of nothing"
"they don't think Trey is going to help if Brock's not ready. Brock's status doesn't matter, they will get rid of him if they get what they're asking for"
I really don't get the pushback on a 22 year old player that's completed 3 games. Having a strong opinion about him one way or the other shows bias IMO. I've repeatedly argued that Trey is and should be treated like an unknown. I argued he should not be considered an upgrade to Jimmy or a downgrade to Purdy until he has a chance to play more. That's the most rational perspective IMO.
They have a QB they can win a SB with, and Trey is so far behind there's just no point now. They aren't going to extend him based on hope. Might as well get what you can while you can
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The only people with a good idea of where he's at are within the organization.
Basing my opinion off their actions/comments from the players
Sorry. I call BS on that.
Those type of comments are expected. They have let things slip that tell me they aren't sure about him.
Again, what are these comments you're hearing from the players? The only one I saw you posted was the one that Kittle said Trey just doesn't have to mess things up (or something like that). This is your whole basis for saying the players don't like him? It's quite a stretch.
Now you're saying the team wants to trade him, but in reality, that report was from a rumor page with 5000 subs. That page is far from being credible, yet you're convinced its true.
I don't find either of these opinions very objective at all. That's my issue with your recent posts.
I've been on record saying that if I was a betting man that I would assume Purdy is our future. I want the best QB possible, whether that's Purdy or Lance is irrelevant to me. I also have no problem with people not believing in Lance or believing that Lance needs to essentially put up or shut up. He absolutely does at this point.
But you continue to post extremely subjective comments and you act as if they're objective facts. For example:
"They didn't think he would be the project he is."
"And judging by their actions, he's more green than they thought he would be"
"Trey is so far behind there's just no point now."
"They're going for a SB, which means they are going with Brock, which also means Trey will not develop, which means he won't get resigned here, which means they should probably trade him and get something instead of nothing"
"they don't think Trey is going to help if Brock's not ready. Brock's status doesn't matter, they will get rid of him if they get what they're asking for"
I really don't get the pushback on a 22 year old player that's completed 3 games. Having a strong opinion about him one way or the other shows bias IMO. I've repeatedly argued that Trey is and should be treated like an unknown. I argued he should not be considered an upgrade to Jimmy or a downgrade to Purdy until he has a chance to play more. That's the most rational perspective IMO.
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Apr 10, 2023 at 2:03 PM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
I agree, if Lance showed more in his few starts, I'd fully be onboard with him. The whole "small sample" size doesn't hold much water with me because Brock has a small sample size as well and showed a ton even in the dolphins game, which he wasn't prepared for at all.
if Lance shows a ton of growth and more of what Purdy showed, I'll 100% be on board with wanting to see what else he has. He comes off as a game manager with the ability to make some really nice plays here and there, like Dak, is what his college and few games have shown to me.
still can be a really good player in this league, there are only a handful of elite QBs in the league at a time.
a game manager with ability is still worth having on the roster, which is how I view darnold, as well.
I really hope he makes me eat crow this off season and shows out. I like that his mechanics seem to be improved, that's a positive sign. I'm hoping the pressure on him makes a diamond and not a piece of coal.
How you don't think it holds water is the problem…Brock was a 4 yr starter in college. Him not being completely lost was natural given the number of reps he had…Lance not looking like an all-pro with 300 passing attempts in his college career and not playing meaningful football since 2019 MATTERS. Why ya'll just toss that to the side is beyond me. It matters. It's context.
Lance was NEVER about what he was his first 100 passing attempts…anyone who's objective and understands the prospect, would realize this. His long-term upside and intangibles are what mattered.
I don't toss it to the side, but it isn't like he hasn't had top notch training for years. He's only had like 400 pass attempts throughout college and the pros. If you're a special talent/athlete, that usually shines through in some capacity of making freak plays (especially the guys who are freak physical athletes) - which I don't think he's shown. I'm not saying it doesn't have an impact on him, but also acting like playing a lot in colleges makes you instantly better in the pros is inaccurate. Tons of guys have played a ton in college and it doesn't translate.
Actually most QBs. It helps for sure, but nearly no one expected Purdy to even be in the nfl and look what he did? That's intangible. That's despite being 6'1 and an above average arm (per MPH data).
even mac only played one season in college, he didn't struggle the way Lance has, but he also was in college longer.
there is truth to the fact that Lance isn't anywhere near a finished product, my stance is that he isn't special and none of his game film is (college or pros). I also don't know how you know someone has the intangibles, ESPECIALLY if he hasn't played. That is usually seen out on the field.. lol so it's impossible to know. I've said it a million times that he belongs in the league and I don't think he will always be bad, but I don't see why he's considered "special" by some. Nearly every year someone is "special" and almost every single time they're not. It's just the nature of the draft.
He's capable of making some really nice throws but that isn't an intangible. It's actually the opposite, it's tangible because it's physical.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Apr 10, 2023 at 2:07 PM ]
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
LMAO, you are taking every comment you read and adding your own context to try squeezing it into your narrative. That's fine I guess, but do you really need to force that onto others? I take every comment at face value, knowing people choose their words carefully, trying to prevent this very thing from happening.
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
LMAO, you are taking every comment you read and adding your own context to try squeezing it into your narrative. That's fine I guess, but do you really need to force that onto others? I take every comment at face value, knowing people choose their words carefully, trying to prevent this very thing from happening.
Why do they keep giving me these comments to squeeze into "my narrative" (I'm not the only one that can tell). Why can't they just talk about him like he's a good player. Not upside, not a great human being, just one person come out and say he's going to ball. They never do
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They didn't think he would be the project he is.
They have a QB they can win a SB with, and Trey is so far behind there's just no point now. They aren't going to extend him based on hope. Might as well get what you can while you can
Originally posted by CharlieSheen: The only people with a good idea of where he's at are within the organization.
Basing my opinion off their actions/comments from the players
Sorry. I call BS on that.
Kittle also hyped up the great sudfeld in there as well.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They didn't think he would be the project he is.
They have a QB they can win a SB with, and Trey is so far behind there's just no point now. They aren't going to extend him based on hope. Might as well get what you can while you can
Originally posted by CharlieSheen: The only people with a good idea of where he's at are within the organization.
Basing my opinion off their actions/comments from the players
Sorry. I call BS on that.
Those type of comments are expected. They have let things slip that tell me they aren't sure about him.
Again, what are these comments you're hearing from the players? The only one I saw you posted was the one that Kittle said Trey just doesn't have to mess things up (or something like that). This is your whole basis for saying the players don't like him? It's quite a stretch.
Now you're saying the team wants to trade him, but in reality, that report was from a rumor page with 5000 subs. That page is far from being credible, yet you're convinced its true.
I don't find either of these opinions very objective at all. That's my issue with your recent posts.
I've been on record saying that if I was a betting man that I would assume Purdy is our future. I want the best QB possible, whether that's Purdy or Lance is irrelevant to me. I also have no problem with people not believing in Lance or believing that Lance needs to essentially put up or shut up. He absolutely does at this point.
But you continue to post extremely subjective comments and you act as if they're objective facts. For example:
"They didn't think he would be the project he is."
"And judging by their actions, he's more green than they thought he would be"
"Trey is so far behind there's just no point now."
"They're going for a SB, which means they are going with Brock, which also means Trey will not develop, which means he won't get resigned here, which means they should probably trade him and get something instead of nothing"
"they don't think Trey is going to help if Brock's not ready. Brock's status doesn't matter, they will get rid of him if they get what they're asking for"
I really don't get the pushback on a 22 year old player that's completed 3 games. Having a strong opinion about him one way or the other shows bias IMO. I've repeatedly argued that Trey is and should be treated like an unknown. I argued he should not be considered an upgrade to Jimmy or a downgrade to Purdy until he has a chance to play more. That's the most rational perspective IMO.
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
Again, do you have links to these comments? What are you basing your opinion that they will trade Lance on?
Patrick Mahomes had over 1000 more passing attempts than Lance did in college. It's almost as if you need to play to get better.
They have a QB they can win a SB with, and Trey is so far behind there's just no point now. They aren't going to extend him based on hope. Might as well get what you can while you can
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The only people with a good idea of where he's at are within the organization.
Basing my opinion off their actions/comments from the players
Sorry. I call BS on that.
Those type of comments are expected. They have let things slip that tell me they aren't sure about him.
Again, what are these comments you're hearing from the players? The only one I saw you posted was the one that Kittle said Trey just doesn't have to mess things up (or something like that). This is your whole basis for saying the players don't like him? It's quite a stretch.
Now you're saying the team wants to trade him, but in reality, that report was from a rumor page with 5000 subs. That page is far from being credible, yet you're convinced its true.
I don't find either of these opinions very objective at all. That's my issue with your recent posts.
I've been on record saying that if I was a betting man that I would assume Purdy is our future. I want the best QB possible, whether that's Purdy or Lance is irrelevant to me. I also have no problem with people not believing in Lance or believing that Lance needs to essentially put up or shut up. He absolutely does at this point.
But you continue to post extremely subjective comments and you act as if they're objective facts. For example:
"They didn't think he would be the project he is."
"And judging by their actions, he's more green than they thought he would be"
"Trey is so far behind there's just no point now."
"They're going for a SB, which means they are going with Brock, which also means Trey will not develop, which means he won't get resigned here, which means they should probably trade him and get something instead of nothing"
"they don't think Trey is going to help if Brock's not ready. Brock's status doesn't matter, they will get rid of him if they get what they're asking for"
I really don't get the pushback on a 22 year old player that's completed 3 games. Having a strong opinion about him one way or the other shows bias IMO. I've repeatedly argued that Trey is and should be treated like an unknown. I argued he should not be considered an upgrade to Jimmy or a downgrade to Purdy until he has a chance to play more. That's the most rational perspective IMO.
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
Again, do you have links to these comments? What are you basing your opinion that they will trade Lance on?
Patrick Mahomes had over 1000 more passing attempts than Lance did in college. It's almost as if you need to play to get better.
I have explained it a million times. They have realized playing Trey more isn't going to make him a star. We can't just take a big kid from the FCS and keep playing him and expect him to be great. They are ready to move on.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
LMAO, you are taking every comment you read and adding your own context to try squeezing it into your narrative. That's fine I guess, but do you really need to force that onto others? I take every comment at face value, knowing people choose their words carefully, trying to prevent this very thing from happening.
Why do they keep giving me these comments to squeeze into "my narrative" (I'm not the only one that can tell). Why can't they just talk about him like he's a good player. Not upside, not a great human being, just one person come out and say he's going to ball. They never do
The other problem of only seeing what you want out of these comments is that sometimes you don't see what is right in front of you. Like this.
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
LMAO, you are taking every comment you read and adding your own context to try squeezing it into your narrative. That's fine I guess, but do you really need to force that onto others? I take every comment at face value, knowing people choose their words carefully, trying to prevent this very thing from happening.
Why do they keep giving me these comments to squeeze into "my narrative" (I'm not the only one that can tell). Why can't they just talk about him like he's a good player. Not upside, not a great human being, just one person come out and say he's going to ball. They never do
The other problem of only seeing what you want out of these comments is that sometimes you don't see what is right in front of you. Like this.
The only comments that stick out are Wards. Even then he thought he was hyping up the future face of the franchise. You find players hyping up Sudfield lol. Once they start saying things like Kittle and Bosa, you know what they truly think. That he's not ready
