Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
LMAO, you are taking every comment you read and adding your own context to try squeezing it into your narrative. That's fine I guess, but do you really need to force that onto others? I take every comment at face value, knowing people choose their words carefully, trying to prevent this very thing from happening.
Why do they keep giving me these comments to squeeze into "my narrative" (I'm not the only one that can tell). Why can't they just talk about him like he's a good player. Not upside, not a great human being, just one person come out and say he's going to ball. They never do
The other problem of only seeing what you want out of these comments is that sometimes you don't see what is right in front of you. Like this.
The only comments that stick out are Wards. Even then he thought he was hyping up the future face of the franchise. You find players hyping up Sudfield lol. Once they start saying things like Kittle and Bosa, you know what they truly think. That he's not ready
Ok well, whatever. Even if that were the case, isn't it exactly opposite of what you personally perceive?
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
LMAO, you are taking every comment you read and adding your own context to try squeezing it into your narrative. That's fine I guess, but do you really need to force that onto others? I take every comment at face value, knowing people choose their words carefully, trying to prevent this very thing from happening.
Why do they keep giving me these comments to squeeze into "my narrative" (I'm not the only one that can tell). Why can't they just talk about him like he's a good player. Not upside, not a great human being, just one person come out and say he's going to ball. They never do
The other problem of only seeing what you want out of these comments is that sometimes you don't see what is right in front of you. Like this.
The only comments that stick out are Wards. Even then he thought he was hyping up the future face of the franchise. You find players hyping up Sudfield lol. Once they start saying things like Kittle and Bosa, you know what they truly think. That he's not ready
Ok well, whatever. Even if that were the case, isn't it exactly opposite of what you personally perceive?
It is exactly the opposite of what I personally perceive lol. I would say Ward is a very good teammate. Kittle is too, he's said stuff like Trey has an amazing ceiling and he reminds him of Josh Allen, but then he talks too much and shows you how he really feels about Trey
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They didn't think he would be the project he is.
They have a QB they can win a SB with, and Trey is so far behind there's just no point now. They aren't going to extend him based on hope. Might as well get what you can while you can
Originally posted by CharlieSheen: The only people with a good idea of where he's at are within the organization.
Basing my opinion off their actions/comments from the players
Sorry. I call BS on that.
Those type of comments are expected. They have let things slip that tell me they aren't sure about him.
Again, what are these comments you're hearing from the players? The only one I saw you posted was the one that Kittle said Trey just doesn't have to mess things up (or something like that). This is your whole basis for saying the players don't like him? It's quite a stretch.
Now you're saying the team wants to trade him, but in reality, that report was from a rumor page with 5000 subs. That page is far from being credible, yet you're convinced its true.
I don't find either of these opinions very objective at all. That's my issue with your recent posts.
I've been on record saying that if I was a betting man that I would assume Purdy is our future. I want the best QB possible, whether that's Purdy or Lance is irrelevant to me. I also have no problem with people not believing in Lance or believing that Lance needs to essentially put up or shut up. He absolutely does at this point.
But you continue to post extremely subjective comments and you act as if they're objective facts. For example:
"They didn't think he would be the project he is."
"And judging by their actions, he's more green than they thought he would be"
"Trey is so far behind there's just no point now."
"They're going for a SB, which means they are going with Brock, which also means Trey will not develop, which means he won't get resigned here, which means they should probably trade him and get something instead of nothing"
"they don't think Trey is going to help if Brock's not ready. Brock's status doesn't matter, they will get rid of him if they get what they're asking for"
I really don't get the pushback on a 22 year old player that's completed 3 games. Having a strong opinion about him one way or the other shows bias IMO. I've repeatedly argued that Trey is and should be treated like an unknown. I argued he should not be considered an upgrade to Jimmy or a downgrade to Purdy until he has a chance to play more. That's the most rational perspective IMO.
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
Again, do you have links to these comments? What are you basing your opinion that they will trade Lance on?
Patrick Mahomes had over 1000 more passing attempts than Lance did in college. It's almost as if you need to play to get better.
No, he doesnt have links to any of these comments. He is basing his opinion that they will trade Lance off of his biases and hope to be correct.
I've refrained from commenting on the guys hair cause it's irrelevant to him as a football player, but someone needs to tell him that he can do better. Hahaha
balding isn't even the issue, I just don't know what style he's going for. Like 70 year old grouchy man on a 70s sitcom? Lol
[ Edited by tankle104 on Apr 10, 2023 at 6:55 PM ]
They have a QB they can win a SB with, and Trey is so far behind there's just no point now. They aren't going to extend him based on hope. Might as well get what you can while you can
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The only people with a good idea of where he's at are within the organization.
Basing my opinion off their actions/comments from the players
Sorry. I call BS on that.
Those type of comments are expected. They have let things slip that tell me they aren't sure about him.
Again, what are these comments you're hearing from the players? The only one I saw you posted was the one that Kittle said Trey just doesn't have to mess things up (or something like that). This is your whole basis for saying the players don't like him? It's quite a stretch.
Now you're saying the team wants to trade him, but in reality, that report was from a rumor page with 5000 subs. That page is far from being credible, yet you're convinced its true.
I don't find either of these opinions very objective at all. That's my issue with your recent posts.
I've been on record saying that if I was a betting man that I would assume Purdy is our future. I want the best QB possible, whether that's Purdy or Lance is irrelevant to me. I also have no problem with people not believing in Lance or believing that Lance needs to essentially put up or shut up. He absolutely does at this point.
But you continue to post extremely subjective comments and you act as if they're objective facts. For example:
"They didn't think he would be the project he is."
"And judging by their actions, he's more green than they thought he would be"
"Trey is so far behind there's just no point now."
"They're going for a SB, which means they are going with Brock, which also means Trey will not develop, which means he won't get resigned here, which means they should probably trade him and get something instead of nothing"
"they don't think Trey is going to help if Brock's not ready. Brock's status doesn't matter, they will get rid of him if they get what they're asking for"
I really don't get the pushback on a 22 year old player that's completed 3 games. Having a strong opinion about him one way or the other shows bias IMO. I've repeatedly argued that Trey is and should be treated like an unknown. I argued he should not be considered an upgrade to Jimmy or a downgrade to Purdy until he has a chance to play more. That's the most rational perspective IMO.
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
Again, do you have links to these comments? What are you basing your opinion that they will trade Lance on?
Patrick Mahomes had over 1000 more passing attempts than Lance did in college. It's almost as if you need to play to get better.
No, he doesnt have links to any of these comments. He is basing his opinion that they will trade Lance off of his biases and hope to be correct.
It's not worth linking all the comments. We would go down another rabbit hole of everyone demanding explanation of each comment. Then you guys wouldn't agree anyways so like I said not worth it
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They didn't think he would be the project he is.
They have a QB they can win a SB with, and Trey is so far behind there's just no point now. They aren't going to extend him based on hope. Might as well get what you can while you can
Originally posted by CharlieSheen: The only people with a good idea of where he's at are within the organization.
Basing my opinion off their actions/comments from the players
Sorry. I call BS on that.
Those type of comments are expected. They have let things slip that tell me they aren't sure about him.
Again, what are these comments you're hearing from the players? The only one I saw you posted was the one that Kittle said Trey just doesn't have to mess things up (or something like that). This is your whole basis for saying the players don't like him? It's quite a stretch.
Now you're saying the team wants to trade him, but in reality, that report was from a rumor page with 5000 subs. That page is far from being credible, yet you're convinced its true.
I don't find either of these opinions very objective at all. That's my issue with your recent posts.
I've been on record saying that if I was a betting man that I would assume Purdy is our future. I want the best QB possible, whether that's Purdy or Lance is irrelevant to me. I also have no problem with people not believing in Lance or believing that Lance needs to essentially put up or shut up. He absolutely does at this point.
But you continue to post extremely subjective comments and you act as if they're objective facts. For example:
"They didn't think he would be the project he is."
"And judging by their actions, he's more green than they thought he would be"
"Trey is so far behind there's just no point now."
"They're going for a SB, which means they are going with Brock, which also means Trey will not develop, which means he won't get resigned here, which means they should probably trade him and get something instead of nothing"
"they don't think Trey is going to help if Brock's not ready. Brock's status doesn't matter, they will get rid of him if they get what they're asking for"
I really don't get the pushback on a 22 year old player that's completed 3 games. Having a strong opinion about him one way or the other shows bias IMO. I've repeatedly argued that Trey is and should be treated like an unknown. I argued he should not be considered an upgrade to Jimmy or a downgrade to Purdy until he has a chance to play more. That's the most rational perspective IMO.
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
Again, do you have links to these comments? What are you basing your opinion that they will trade Lance on?
Patrick Mahomes had over 1000 more passing attempts than Lance did in college. It's almost as if you need to play to get better.
No, he doesnt have links to any of these comments. He is basing his opinion that they will trade Lance off of his biases and hope to be correct.
It's not worth linking all the comments. We would go down another rabbit hole of everyone demanding explanation of each comment. Then you guys wouldn't agree anyways so like I said not worth it
You need to understand how saying stuff like this comes off. Its basically admitting you dont have what you are claiming to.
On a related note....you realize that "you guys" are people who simply think Trey is an unknown, not people who are Trey homers, right? Its funny you keep trying to make this about Brock vs Trey fans....but the "Trey fans" are simply people like me who would like to see him play before we make definitive statements about him.
Moving on.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Apr 10, 2023 at 7:05 PM ]
They have a QB they can win a SB with, and Trey is so far behind there's just no point now. They aren't going to extend him based on hope. Might as well get what you can while you can
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The only people with a good idea of where he's at are within the organization.
Basing my opinion off their actions/comments from the players
Sorry. I call BS on that.
Those type of comments are expected. They have let things slip that tell me they aren't sure about him.
Again, what are these comments you're hearing from the players? The only one I saw you posted was the one that Kittle said Trey just doesn't have to mess things up (or something like that). This is your whole basis for saying the players don't like him? It's quite a stretch.
Now you're saying the team wants to trade him, but in reality, that report was from a rumor page with 5000 subs. That page is far from being credible, yet you're convinced its true.
I don't find either of these opinions very objective at all. That's my issue with your recent posts.
I've been on record saying that if I was a betting man that I would assume Purdy is our future. I want the best QB possible, whether that's Purdy or Lance is irrelevant to me. I also have no problem with people not believing in Lance or believing that Lance needs to essentially put up or shut up. He absolutely does at this point.
But you continue to post extremely subjective comments and you act as if they're objective facts. For example:
"They didn't think he would be the project he is."
"And judging by their actions, he's more green than they thought he would be"
"Trey is so far behind there's just no point now."
"They're going for a SB, which means they are going with Brock, which also means Trey will not develop, which means he won't get resigned here, which means they should probably trade him and get something instead of nothing"
"they don't think Trey is going to help if Brock's not ready. Brock's status doesn't matter, they will get rid of him if they get what they're asking for"
I really don't get the pushback on a 22 year old player that's completed 3 games. Having a strong opinion about him one way or the other shows bias IMO. I've repeatedly argued that Trey is and should be treated like an unknown. I argued he should not be considered an upgrade to Jimmy or a downgrade to Purdy until he has a chance to play more. That's the most rational perspective IMO.
I said they were looking to trade him before that dumb twitter post. If you were excited to play with a guy and thought he was going to ball out, you wouldn't say the things Bosa and Kittle said. I know the Chiefs players weren't like "Yea luckily he's in a good situation so if he doesn't f**k up we should be good", when Mahomes came in. These guys struggle to hype him up beyond his upside and say things that just make me scratch my head.
Again, do you have links to these comments? What are you basing your opinion that they will trade Lance on?
Patrick Mahomes had over 1000 more passing attempts than Lance did in college. It's almost as if you need to play to get better.
No, he doesnt have links to any of these comments. He is basing his opinion that they will trade Lance off of his biases and hope to be correct.
It's not worth linking all the comments. We would go down another rabbit hole of everyone demanding explanation of each comment. Then you guys wouldn't agree anyways so like I said not worth it
You need to understand how saying stuff like this comes off. Its basically admitting you dont have what you are claiming to.
On a related note....you realize that "you guys" are people who simply think Trey is an unknown, not people who are Trey homers, right? Its funny you keep trying to make this about Brock vs Trey fans....but the "Trey fans" are simply people like me who would like to see him play before we make definitive statements about him.
Moving on.
No we would go down a rabbit hole that I don't care to go down but believe what you want.
